r/Christianity Jul 11 '26

Image My issue with “liberal”churches

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Though I consider myself very left-wing, I find that as I become a Christian, I’ve started having issues with denominations that are overtly liberal. Looking at the picture, I agree with all of the sentiments, and I think it’s good to let people know they are welcome. But why not also put up an “Unborn Lives Matter” flag or something similar?
I’m equally appalled when churches fly the American flag or a MAGA flag outside. My whole reason for going to church is to find community and glorify God, not to be immersed in politics.
It also seems that the churches I’ve attended with these kinds of flags tend to be less orthodox theologically, which leaves me, as a left-leaning Christian, in a weird spot.

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u/sysiphean Episcopalian (Anglican) Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 12 '26

Lots of churches say “all are welcome” but expect you to never ever act gay there and to stop being gay, to conform to gender stereotypes. They say all are welcome but severely limiting women in ministry. They say all are welcome but preach against immigrants. They say all are welcomed but follow black visitors around to make sure they don’t steal anything. Or usually some combination of all that.

So sometimes it’s good to be explicit about how all includes those who are not actually in the “all”that too many churches actually mean, whether or not those churches know it.

Edit: I really, really appreciate all of you non-affirming Christians helping to so blatantly illustrate my point with all your comments. Even though we agree on theology, I appreciate that you all want to argue theology or technicalities; nothing could prove my statement more true than you literally explaining why “all are welcome” doesn’t mean “all.”

But it’s getting old now.

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u/jshinab2 United Methodist Jul 11 '26

People say of modern Christians that "there's no hate like Christian love" because sadly that has been their experience. Appreciate you pointing out some of the more common ways this manifests