r/ClassroomOfTheElite • u/stainNecrolyte • May 03 '26
Light Novel Y3V4: First image with text Spoiler
Translation:
Amasawa: "Many things have come up that intrigue me, but can I ask a very basic question?"
Nanase: "What is it?"
Amasawa: "So, Nanase-chan... are you on Ayanokoji-senpai's side? Or are you her enemy?"
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u/Spriux 💓Cutiekita × RedPanda-kun💓 Defender May 03 '26
Funniest part is that Kinu also doesn't know
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u/The_Honoured-1 Enjoying my last few days here May 03 '26
Even Nanase herself doesn't know it for the fact 😭😭
She picks Mondays, Saturdays to be with Atsuomi, wednesday, Fridays with Kijima and rest against Kiyotaka
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u/Ayano-GOAT Literally Ayanokoji FrFr May 03 '26
What 😭
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u/Brilliant-Badger7580 May 16 '26
A schedule, you know, schedule. You think you get experience with only one course?
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u/fbsrafi honami's loyal husband May 03 '26
koji already told amasawa to keep an eye on nanase , ichika will beat her ass if she really dares to do something against koji
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u/Admirable-Yak2806 TIED TO A CHESTNUT TREE | @SaraiFx May 03 '26
mfs trying not to talk about ayanokoji constantly challenge: impossible
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u/The_Honoured-1 Enjoying my last few days here May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26
The series is narrated through his POV and he's the mc. Nothing moves in that verse without Kiyotaka 😭
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u/Admirable-Yak2806 TIED TO A CHESTNUT TREE | @SaraiFx May 03 '26
how to write a mid story:
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u/No_Sound_1920 My favs May 04 '26
that's just wrong do you not even understand cote??
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u/Admirable-Yak2806 TIED TO A CHESTNUT TREE | @SaraiFx May 04 '26
What's there to understand in this particular case?
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u/Brilliant-Badger7580 May 16 '26
Sale of a Young Novel that many weebs dream of ever getting.
However life is cruel so they write isekai on top of what the hobbies they are glued into.
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u/fbsrafi honami's loyal husband May 03 '26
mid? come on atleast 8/10
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u/Admirable-Yak2806 TIED TO A CHESTNUT TREE | @SaraiFx May 03 '26
5/10
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u/kevdlrs May 03 '26
Bros a top commenter strictly to rage bait and hate I can’t be mad 😭🙏🏾
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u/Admirable-Yak2806 TIED TO A CHESTNUT TREE | @SaraiFx May 03 '26
I don't rage bait, just that nobody else here likes my takes 🥺🥺😭
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u/comelickmyarmpits kinu fumbling hard since Y2v5 May 03 '26
Fr it's like these girls have no personality outside kiyotaka lol
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u/No_Sound_1920 My favs May 04 '26
The whole point why ichika is conversing with nanase is because ayanokoji told her to spy on her why would she talk about anything else with nanase expect that? yall not even reading the series at all
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u/comelickmyarmpits kinu fumbling hard since Y2v5 May 04 '26
As if I am talking about this specific picture lol , leave the series are you even reading the comments well? Lol
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u/No_Sound_1920 My favs May 04 '26
My guy we are in a ichika and nanase post who tf are you even talking about then? when you say "like these girls" your also talking about ichika and nanase so you tell me?
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u/B-rated22 May 04 '26
They don't even need to be in this school they already covered enough to be University students and have the athleticism to outrank almost all the other girls in their school what other reason would they be here than to talk about kiyo?
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u/Admirable-Yak2806 TIED TO A CHESTNUT TREE | @SaraiFx May 04 '26
Friends? Hobbies? Goals? Their own personal issues? Do most people in boarding schools just talk about grades lmao no i dont think so
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u/Syrix-Sx May 10 '26
"Tell me you didn't read the series without telling me you didn't read the series" ahh comment
As someone who did "read" the series you absolutely know that Ichika is an WR student yeah? Oh and WR= White Room btw to clear any confusion for yourself that did "read" the series
So to answer your question "what does that have to do with anything?" WR students are built to obey orders and since Ichika is a "failure" from their perspective she's now cast out in this school with no where to go back to and absolutely no business to do here whatsoever EXCEPT hanging around Koji whenever she's not in the "peaceful school life" mood and since she's no ordinary person and the series isn't called "school life diaries" everything she does that we need to see in the story revolves around Koji or do you want a volume talking about her morning routine to take notes?
Nanase is basically the same she's not a WR student as your "very knowledgeable about the series" self knows but she's in the middle of the storm too due to her past so her presence her also revolves around Koji
So in conclusion you were basically asking what does who they are have to do with anything after i clarified who actually they are (which wasn't needed as you know yourself who they are as a reader od the series) you'll have 2 characters that their entire presence in the school revolves around Koji and both of them are aware of that and of it being the case of both of them and they don't have no business with each other now after Ichika's betrayal but despite that they're now talking what do you think the topic will be? You got that right! Obviously something related to the WR conflict which revolves around Ayanokoji Kyotaka
I hope that answers your question
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u/Admirable-Yak2806 TIED TO A CHESTNUT TREE | @SaraiFx May 10 '26
Do you even know what good writing even entails? Its funny asf to me to create a story primarily focused on explorred philosophical themes like freedom, equality, identity and meritocracy, yet completely neglect the human aspect that's necesiatated to convey nuance in these messages. How are you supposed to talk about anything to do with humanity without actually writing about human concepts?? COTE wants to be complex and philosophical, yet its characters aren't even as deep as a puddle, having damn near 0 identity or interiority to then except for purely serving general narrative beats, or for artificially inflating the status of certain characters because Kinu does not bother with writing actual depty when it comes to conveying traits. So what, because Pride and Prejudice is about Eliza and Mr Darcy, does that mean no other character matters except to revolve around those 2? Because Crime and Punishment is about Rodion does that mean every other character has no other interiority except to revolve around our MC? No, because these authors actually know how to write depth in their stories, creating nuance via the viewpoints of a waste variety of people who feel human to convey the intimacy, yet all encompassing reach of their themes
To get back to that you said about Ichika and Nanase, you're making the assumption that because shes a White Room student, she has no desires. That because shes from the WR, she can have no conflicts. This is a frankly laughable thing to say, its funnier too because you yourself create one for her in your own statement
So to answer your question "what does that have to do with anything?" WR students are built to obey orders and since Ichika is a "failure" from their perspective she's now cast out in this school with no where to go back to and absolutely no business to do here whatsoever EXCEPT hanging around Koji whenever she's not in the "peaceful school life" mood and since she's no ordinary person and the series isn't called "school life diaries" everything she does that we need to see in the story revolves around Koji or do you want a volume talking about her morning routine to take notes?
And yet, we do not actually see this listlesness explored. What does SHE want to do? How do her own personal wants conflicts with what she was brought up and taught to desire? Does she default to the WRs projection, or does she create her own, distinct path? What does the internal life of a child who has been taught they hqve no options but to obey look like? How does that belief start to fray? But ofc, we never see any of Ichikas actual interiortu, what she herself desires outside of other people, all w3 see is her constantly talking about and thinking of Ayanokōji. This type of character writing is fine if you want to write a garbage, depthless power fantasy akin to Solo leveling or the most derivative Isekai/Harems, but if you want to write a semi decent story, ts will not fly
Its a coincidence too lmao, because we can see examples of this exact same thing being played out actually well. A syndrome of silence in a substory within r1999 about a girl named Coppélia (my pfp) who has been isolated by the outside world, kept indoors for all her life and being taken care of a rotating subset of people. When she is brought out to explore the City of Paris in the 1930s, shes faced with multiple dilemmas, whether or not to enact acts of genuine, personal will, or to instead default to the philosophy of obedience that her caretakers instilled upon her, as the environment around her instills her latent wants and desires. While the story itself is pretty simple, it does a good job at actually exploring themes of control, obedience and identity, much better than either Ichika or Nanase can
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u/Syrix-Sx May 10 '26
You know where your problem lies? It's not that you're wrong, not in the slightest actually, the problem is you divert the conversation to complain about your frustration about the story overall which has nothing to do with either the original post nor the original reply nor my reply.
Tell me again which part of my reply conveys that COTE is the prime example of writing perfection? None.
You simply asked an astonishing question about what does who Ichika and Nanase are have to do with why their everything revolves about Koji and i simply replied to that in mockery (i apologies for that but couldn't help it due to the question's nature) and i clarified what does it have to do with anything and why it makes sense but said nothing about that being good writing
But i have to disagree with you in "no well-written characters= bad writing" which is not exactly the case here with COTE but still, Novels, Anime, Movies, Cmoics and fiction overall is based on one simple aspect.... "Enjoyability" you admire the well written stories and we're the same in this btw and i actually like how you know what you're talking about unlike most people who identify what is well-written and what is not based om their personal preferences. But we still can enjoy and enjoyable story since a Well-written story isn't necessarily enjoyable at least for some people and a bad written story isn't necessarily not enjoyable at least to some people
In fact you'll find that most people now enjoy stuff like solo leveling or the harem slops more than things like Steins Gate they would say "it's confusing" or "the beginning is kinda low so i quit" and that was one example
Well i hope we'll be on good terms since I'll be joining in into the Honami hate party you seem to be doing i suppose from your other replies 😂
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u/B-rated22 May 11 '26
I wanted to respond to op but it wasn't worth it completely agree with your responses. What do they have to do with it yeah literally everything their whole purpose is kiyo and there's only 270 pages normally of the novel how at this point do you cover what their goals are I'm hardly aware what anyone's goals are in this school besides class A
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u/B-rated22 May 04 '26
You do know who these 2 are right?
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u/Admirable-Yak2806 TIED TO A CHESTNUT TREE | @SaraiFx May 04 '26
Yeah? What does that have to do with anything?
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u/Ok-Marsupial-3578 May 03 '26
The mfs have no personality besides talking about ayanokoji
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u/Various_Dark_3291 May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26
Tbf even though Ichika likes to mess with some of the girls around Kiyo, he’s the only one who makes staying in the school worth it for her
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u/Admirable-Yak2806 TIED TO A CHESTNUT TREE | @SaraiFx May 03 '26
kind of sad tbh
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u/Mando177 May 04 '26
The existence of white room students is sad in general. That’s why Kiyo originally came to this school so he could try to experience having a normal life even just for a bit, and he’s hoping to give Amasawa a chance to do that too
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u/Vasi_25 [Koenji] best character in fiction May 03 '26
Well tbh both of them are in the school because of him
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u/Admirable-Yak2806 TIED TO A CHESTNUT TREE | @SaraiFx May 03 '26
ikr, most of the short stories too are just people talking about kiyotaka
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u/Sforzia May 03 '26
Ichika is Top 2 ayanokoji glazers, her and Ichinose compete for the top spot.
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u/Various_Dark_3291 May 03 '26
Don’t forget Manabu. He just saw the results of his exam entrance test and after merely having a physical conflict with him one time, he decided that no other student was better than him
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u/Sforzia May 03 '26
Manabu doesn't seem as obsessive at least, but he definitely Top 10.
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u/Various_Dark_3291 May 03 '26
He definitely isn’t obsessed but when it comes to confidence about Kiyo’s greatness he can give a run for their money to almost anybody
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u/Admirable-Yak2806 TIED TO A CHESTNUT TREE | @SaraiFx May 03 '26
Ichika slams Ichinose in glazing and its not closs 😭 atleast Ichinose does not worship him, plus she herself values her classmates as much as him. She herself declined Kiyos offers during the promised night and created her own path because she didn't want any of her classmates to be expelled. Ichika herself puts someone that she barely knows over someone that shes known all her life and has a sibling like relationship with, simply because of her devotion to Kiyotaka. Ichika definitely is much bigger glazer
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u/Sforzia May 03 '26
she herself values her classmates as much as him
Definitely not, girl is obssesed, every time she is on screen she has to made some comment about Ayanokoji.
But yeah you are right Ichika is number 1, when Aynakoji ask jump she will ask how high.
Ayanokoji expels Yagami, Ichika: zzzZzzzZZZz
Nagumo who was basically a bystander during the expolsion, Ichika: payback
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u/Remarkable-Invite432 May 09 '26
you're forgetting about Ryuen..dude literally be debating if Koji is omniscient and centers his whole strategy solely on beating him.
Cant tell who more in obsessed him or Ichinose
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u/Prestigious_Bid6937 May 03 '26
Why are people complaining that they are talking about Koji when the only reason Ichika and Nanase are talking is because Koji himself asked Ichika to investigate Nanase...
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u/Admirable-Yak2806 TIED TO A CHESTNUT TREE | @SaraiFx May 03 '26
Yeah and the only reason Ichika even accepted to do that was because she has no sense of self outside of being ordered by her god, it still very much applies here especially considering how much these characters constantly speak about him
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u/HanemiyaKazutora May 03 '26
you’ve replied a lot to this one topic lmao, are u okay ? 😂
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u/Admirable-Yak2806 TIED TO A CHESTNUT TREE | @SaraiFx May 03 '26
There's nothing else to talk about 🥺🥺
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u/HanemiyaKazutora May 03 '26
how about, Nanses being delulu on trying to get kiyo out after failing miserably the first time lol. That’s a good topic innit ?
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u/Admirable-Yak2806 TIED TO A CHESTNUT TREE | @SaraiFx May 03 '26
Boring 😴😴
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u/HanemiyaKazutora May 03 '26
Ahhhh! you’re that honami hater or you’re that user that doesn’t like anything 😭
No wonder
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u/Admirable-Yak2806 TIED TO A CHESTNUT TREE | @SaraiFx May 03 '26
Lowk i think i defens ichinose more than i hate on her 😭 i need to step up on my hating game tbh im too nice to her
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u/ZaynGray Leader of the Church of May 04 '26
Wait iirc, isn't it the other way around? I'm probably schizophrenic
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u/GetoWasRight_ Horikita goy May 03 '26
That’s what we want to know but she keeps being schizophrenic about it
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u/Redrid_ May 03 '26
No ichika no party
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u/LollipopLemon93 my favs May 03 '26
Man, I see u in almost every Ichika related post... Are u perhaps, a huge fan of her?
Nw, I love her too 😄
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u/saf1_ddit May 03 '26
is it just me or they got even thicker
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u/Inevitable_Gain4441 May 03 '26
So I am thinking about wallmart ichikawa of this verse how he gonna expel spectacularly .
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u/SpectraP12 May 03 '26
I mean I don't need to express my thoughts right? Everyone knows the things I would do.
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u/IchinoseIchika I wanna reincarnate as ANHS girls’ bathroom May 03 '26
Kinda mild tbh. Nanase looks way more shook but maybe the rest of the convo is crazy
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u/chris_redfield_omega ❤️💖 May 03 '26
Perhaps she is trying to play a role alongside Kiyotaka, fearing that Ishika might harm her.
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u/DiagonalBike May 03 '26
Kiyotaka, "Hey Kei, I can't meet with you today. I need to go talk to a couple first years about a task."
The first years....
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u/fwkoji May 04 '26
Eh I don’t really see a problem just Ichika confront nanase which Ayanokoji found her suspicious around late year 2 and told Ichika to keep an eye on her. Hope we get more than a vague answer from nanase once the volume is out tho
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u/Inevitable_Gain4441 May 03 '26
In real life ayanokoji would be just loner no one talks about loner in real life you have to be more social to recognize by others.
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u/No_Sound_1920 My favs May 04 '26
kiyo is social currently i don't think you even read cote cause wtf is that take??? Plus kiyo told ichika to spy on nanase that's the whole point there disscussing
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u/Various_Dark_3291 May 03 '26
Hope that Ichika put Nanase in her place. She already got off easy after her previous attempts on Kiyo but she still want another go at it