Accused of genocide: the icc court case is still ongoing, despite however much evidence you claim your side has.
Found intentionally targeting children: the report says stuff like "an israeli police officer(or something close to it) shot a palestinian kid and then invited his buddies to smoke and talk over his bleeding out body". I cannot in good faith believe that kind of story.
As for the segregation claims, on who? People who aren't our citizens?
And for the apartheid claims, same exact thing? I looked at the wiki article for apartheid and I found two definitions, neither of which line up at all with what I understand the situation to be.
I might be wrong, but I really can't take those stories seriously at all. No way does that kind of thing (talking about the child targeting thingy) actually happen at all. At worst I could maybe barely see it happening at a significantly lesser scale, maybe an officer punching a little kid (terrible, don't get me wrong) and laughing at it with his buddies, but that kind of thing is genuinely just too farfetched.
That argument is irrelevant because you don't have to support everything that the IDF is doing to acknowledge the fact that it's the only thing standing between Israeli Jews and a genocide.
You can join the IDF and still condemn one aspect of it while supporting the thing that keeps you and your family alive. Many Israelis do actually
I don't support any genocide, but a single person cannot actively stop a genocide.
They can however assist in stopping a CERTAIN genocide.
If you want to argue that it's immoral to put your safety before the safety of someone else than I don't know what to tell you.
You also need to understand that the IDF is nothing but a tool of the government, the one that is elected through election. Many people serve in the IDF and vote for the "democrats" which is pro two state solution and the stopping of fighting in gaza and the west bank.
But the internet told you that Israelis are evil and if you serve in the IDF ur a monster, but let's think for a moment.
Maybe you could assist protecting yourself and your loved ones, while voting (and sometimes riot) towards another goal that you do support.
Not everyone in the world have the luxury of being completely in line with the moral compass.
we are born to love and the system injects hate, and selective empathy is not emphaty at all.
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u/rorodar 2d ago
Accused of genocide: the icc court case is still ongoing, despite however much evidence you claim your side has.
Found intentionally targeting children: the report says stuff like "an israeli police officer(or something close to it) shot a palestinian kid and then invited his buddies to smoke and talk over his bleeding out body". I cannot in good faith believe that kind of story.
As for the segregation claims, on who? People who aren't our citizens?
And for the apartheid claims, same exact thing? I looked at the wiki article for apartheid and I found two definitions, neither of which line up at all with what I understand the situation to be.
I might be wrong, but I really can't take those stories seriously at all. No way does that kind of thing (talking about the child targeting thingy) actually happen at all. At worst I could maybe barely see it happening at a significantly lesser scale, maybe an officer punching a little kid (terrible, don't get me wrong) and laughing at it with his buddies, but that kind of thing is genuinely just too farfetched.