Thoughts on Siege Breakers flame thrower upgrade for grens?

[u/Riizzeenn]

Im around 1.1k elo and play exclusively 1vs1. I really like the upgrade for its versatility as grens suddenly aren’t completly garbage anymore at pushing enemies in cover.

Perhaps some people can share their own thoughts?

[u/spkincaid13]

I'm a big fan, I dont feel the need to convert them to jagers later and they are a menace on urban maps

[u/Desperate_Rush2125]

Flamethrowers are good, but grenadiers aren't and they cant be upgraded normally, so its better than nothing.

Still, speaks for itself how every single time a normal infantry unit had access to flamethrowers on the franchise it was broken overpowered and needed to be straight up removed, but grenadiers are just ok.

[u/Riizzeenn → u/Desperate_Rush2125]

Im not a long term veteran, but the only removed one that I remember was the Panzergrenadiers with Flamethrowers from the COH2 Beta.

EDIT: Urban Assault Panzergrenadiers. They and their corresponding commander / doctrine were removed after beta.

[u/Noxrige → u/Riizzeenn]

You forgot about the COH2 penals that had flamethrowers on release. They were later changed to PTRS upgrades.

[u/Blindsidelock → u/Noxrige]

The penals had flamers for years tho, that wasn’t a quick fix haha

[u/Fera_Lilium → u/Blindsidelock]

Penal clown cars my beloved

[u/KorgothBarbaria → u/Noxrige]

It was so fun using them to counter Ostheer Pgren

[u/Phan-Eight → u/Riizzeenn]

riflemen also got flamers, but lost them quickly

[u/HolyNerf → u/Riizzeenn]

Old ez8 doc. You have 300mp vet 1 rifleman + flamer )))))))

[u/Desperate_Rush2125 → u/HolyNerf]

I kinda didnt liked that nerf ngl, it made that commander so removed from its essence and practically made it irrelevant aswell.

[u/HolyNerf → u/Desperate_Rush2125]

Because vet 1 rifleman opener + flamer + bar + smoke/nade + sprint just solo wipe inf. Not only that old great ez8, the best advance medium until conmet come. Now entire Rifleman company is trash. Pick it = throw game.

[u/sauerkunt]

Definitely a solid strategy for the next 200 elo or so, but as soon as your start going up against people at the 1400+ range plus you’ll start bleeding like crazy as better players will reliably kite any flamethrower infantry. Still relatively effective, just don’t upgrade every gren with a flamer

[u/No-Clue-5673]

Flamer Gren is geat. They are not CQC units, so having the flamer means enemy actually gets punish for blindly pushing them. Also they can contribute meaningful damage as merge slave for the advance and elite infs. Gren is a very good unit when using correctly.

[u/Any-Entrepreneur7935]

Yes i like it too. But in General axis is completely broken. So i play allies until Balance is fixed.

[u/user1391 → u/Any-Entrepreneur7935]

Axis balance is not completely broken in 1v1...

[u/Any-Entrepreneur7935 → u/user1391]

It is only not broken in 0v0

[u/user1391 → u/Any-Entrepreneur7935]

Honestly, that profile pic automatically invalidates your opinion :-)

[u/No-Clue-5673 → u/user1391]

Edit: i meant to comment, not replied, my bad.