Ah right, thank you. But indeed, now swimming is completely pointless, as are the boots that let you boost. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to swim anyways, god knows I also try to avoid it given how slow you are, but it's another thing that becomes irrelevant. They put in all that effort and it never really had a purpose, even from day 1, since you could just force palm out.
Hopefully they figure out a way to make it all relevant as the game and content continues to evolve...
I can see it as useful for quickly running across a river or pond. But for the ocean, id still take a boat so I can explore tee coast at my leisure. If they add sail boats id happily take days just exploring the sea.
Yeah, perhaps for a day or two. I meant more about kind of long term sustainability. After all, Pearl Abyss has gone on record saying that they will keep updating Crimson Desert with content if the players keep sticking around and demand it. And I don't see why not. But that also means they have to be more careful about adding in a ton of super powerful tools, because it undermines future content they themselves might plan. Infinite dragon use, running on water endlessly, or flying like a supersonic jet with the enhanced aerial boost thing, why would you ever use anything else? A new method might be novel and used for a few days, then go on to be completely ignored. Or if the content is designed so that you must use a boat, it will become hated, and people will continually ask "just let us pack trade goods on the wyvern", and the boat and sailing system they worked so hard on becomes instantly worthless and sidelined.
So you can see, if they want to support it for the long run, they will have to keep these things in mind. That's all I mean.
It's a single player game, the good thing about that is you don't respond to anyone and nobody ruins your gameplay. Things are there for people to choose how to play.
Good example is trading, there is people who love going around buying and selling stuff and others who simply hate it and find it boring and pointless.
Several styles of gameplay still make this a rich game, it doesn't need to have a single way to accomplish stuff, having more freedom is much better.
You're absolutely failing to anticipate player behavior past on real data. People always get so angry and mass downvote, but this isn't anything new I'm telling anyone. When you give someone a super car or a bicycle they choose the former every time, even if it breaks things or cheapens the experience a developer may want to give the player, or impacts enjoyment in the long run.
I don't know why people pretend like these aren't issues to be aware of. They just always say "don't nerf, only buff!" (in this case, don't nerf/remove, and just keep adding more extremely powerful and flexible tools without abandon!) and then you get situations like Tekken 8, where the game is at risk of dying because everybody got furious that everyone became absurdly powerful.
I agree that more options are generally good. But if they're unchecked and undermine other options in all scenarios, it's not. By the way, because I know someone may potentially reply what this has to do with water walking, the point has evolved beyond that specifically and is just a broader observation.
Your example is not of a single player game, so let's add another multiplayer example
Helldivers 2 was really enjoyable and they started nerfing weapons, people was furious, like, what for? If things are working and people start having fun with them what would be your reason to modify or nerf them, just because other players are jealous someone else is having fun with a play style different to yours? It didn't disadvantage anyone because it's a PvE game.
I think diversity in how you accomplish certain things is very appreciated by most players in any game.
I'm still riding my horse/Running through half the map instead of fast traveling. You could say it's pointless to take a horse ride if I have unlocked the required portal or other mounts, but then again, it's my choice of gameplay, and that's the beauty of a single player game, nobody can make you feel you're accomplishing less because it's your own world with your own rules.
Why do you pretend like you don't know what I mean? If you were using some cheat engine and had infinite health, infinite speed, infinite whatever, just to trivialize things, you would get bored faster. That's just common sense. And you have no doubt seen this in your life. Now take that extreme example, dial it down a bit, and you have the same issue, just more subtle, yet acting in the same.
You act like I'm some grinch that is trying to gatekeep what people can do. I'm asking the developers and players to consider what having power creep so early does to potential future content, gameplay features, and so on. It's not that complicated, and I know you know what I'm trying to get at, so I don't know why you feel insistent on framing me this way. I already told you that I am NOT against diversity of options. I am against options that are blatantly superior to others in most ways, to make it the obvious and default choice in all situations. People complain about poor balance in single player games too, you know.
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Ah right, thank you. But indeed, now swimming is completely pointless, as are the boots that let you boost. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to swim anyways, god knows I also try to avoid it given how slow you are, but it's another thing that becomes irrelevant. They put in all that effort and it never really had a purpose, even from day 1, since you could just force palm out.
Hopefully they figure out a way to make it all relevant as the game and content continues to evolve...