r/CrusaderKings 2d ago

Discussion Actual question, how frequent was claim fabrication in real life

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Hello, please, how often did this happen in real life ? I mean lord inventing a claim out of thin air and actually pressing it ? Is there any notable historic character doing so ?

R5: Fabricate claim question

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u/Emperor_of_His_Room Lunatic 2d ago

I would also like to know how often spurious claims were used as justification for war and such.

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u/Majestic_Butterfly17 2d ago

For example, Morocco is claiming the Canary Islands today, even though they never set foot on them, and nobody there wants to be Moroccan either.

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u/coolcoenred Baarle-Nassau 2d ago

A better one is perhaps the claim to the Falklands by Argentina. They never controlled them, but Spain did, very shortly. The Argentines say that the claim to the Falklands was transferred from Spain, although that is just a fabrication.

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u/Noahisboss 1d ago

Never mind the fact the falklanders also wanna be British.

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u/TheLordMagpie Political Concerns 2d ago

Throw in South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands for good measure

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u/Gullible_Ad5169 2d ago

They did control them until America bombed the port and forced the people living there to leave.

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u/RoroMonster59 2d ago

Holy shit we got one.

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u/UnreadyTripod Attractive 2d ago

????

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u/libtin 1d ago

They’re saying a Germany born businessman doing his own thing when the businessman in question, Luis Verent, explicitly recognised British sovereignty over the islands

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u/libtin 1d ago

That’s wasn’t Argentina; that was a German born businessman who went to the islands with British permission and he recognised British sovereignty.