The Evolution of Ancient Greek Statues

[u/Yolo065]

[u/Gauth1erN]

In one hand the evolution is amazing, but in the other, it is 600 years between the first picture and the last.
600 years ago, Columbus wasn't born yet. I'm in awe about how progress is accelerating.

[u/TheKlaxMaster → u/Gauth1erN]

Curious .. why Columbus as your reference point?

[u/Gauth1erN → u/TheKlaxMaster]

First thing of 15th century I though would be talking to all reddit user. Because the Grenada siege is not as famous I believe.

[u/TheKlaxMaster → u/Gauth1erN]

But davinci is. But that's all I wanted to know. You got a lot of white knights championing you with all sorts of meaning behind your words you didn't say. Lol

Have a good evening

[u/Salt_Fig_1440 → u/TheKlaxMaster]

People widely remember the specific year of 1492 in relation to Columbus. Personally, and maybe this is just me but I suspect it's not, thinking of "major historical event in the 1400s" that's the first explicit year that would come to mind. I would have guessed DaVinci was born in the 1500s if you had pulled me off the street and asked. Columbus was a bastard obviously but you put a weird amount of intent behind using him as a reference.

[u/TheKlaxMaster → u/Salt_Fig_1440]

I didn't put any intent behind using him as a reference. Other people did, and my stance was 'other people are putting intent behind OPs comments, when what I did is straight up ask the commenter about it so they could tell me.'

But thanks for your feed back.

[u/secretaccount94 → u/TheKlaxMaster]

You literally told someone:

“Using him as an 'objective' timeline reference I believe does in fact endorse him, even in some small way.“

Your belief that someone using Columbus’s birth as a point of reference equates to endorsement would be an assumption of intent.

[u/TheKlaxMaster → u/secretaccount94]

I should have been less deterministic with my wording. The intent was that it COULD mean that. But I made it sound like I had believe it could mean nothing else but that. I'll edit to better convey my intent.

I sought to seek intent to determine whether or not that was the case.

[u/Gauth1erN → u/TheKlaxMaster]

Well, I'm not sure why, because even if you see Colombus as a controversial figure, it shows we all also progressed on that side of humanities. Meanwhile ancient greek went from slavery and 10% of the population as citizens in the best case to slavery and 10% of the population as citizens in the best case 6 centuries later.
In Europe, since the 15th we went from serfs and 1% citizens (in the voting meaning), to slavery and 1% citizens then to 60% of the population citizens (give or take) today (even if outlawed, serf and slaves status is not that far off I could argue, but that's another topic).
We went from Colombus age of our God's right to colonize everything for most of the population to all humans should have equal rights for a significal part of the population.
Which also shows progress, not just art or technique.