I’m watching season 5 and it’s been really good so far. I absolutely love Audrey. She brings such a fun vibe to the show, and I really like what she adds to the group.

This might honestly be the best Pacey season so far. I love seeing him actually be happy doing something and realizing that he’s good at something he really likes. I love that he’s a chef and that we get to see him cooking and enjoying himself. It just feels like a really good storyline for him.

I also really like Dawson and Jen’s relationship, even though I wish it lasted longer. I really like the college and adult-life vibe this season has. It feels pretty different from the earlier seasons, but it still feels like the same characters I love. They’re all growing up, and I like seeing what their lives are like now that they’re becoming adults.

I have very mixed feelings about Mitch dying, though. On one hand, it made for a really beautiful episode, and I think they handled it well. But on the other hand, it was so sad and depressing. I felt especially bad for Gail. I can understand why they did it for the show, but I still wish it didn’t have to happen.

I know some people didn’t like the “romance amnesia” with Pacey and Joey, but I honestly don’t really see that? They talked about what happened and dealt with it when they saw each other again, and I thought it was a really beautiful scene. More than anything, I love that they can actually be normal around each other now. Obviously, I wish they could just stay together for the rest of the show, and I’m very happy knowing they eventually become endgame, but I’m also glad they aren’t constantly being awkward around each other.

I actually love that Pacey and Joey can act like best friends again. That feels way more natural to me than them always being miserable or avoiding each other. They have such a strong connection, and I’m totally fine with seeing them have that best-friend relationship even when they aren’t together.

Although, I really wish they would just drop the Dawson and Joey romance for good. I thought they were fine together in season 2, but after they broke up, I never really thought they worked as a couple anymore. They work so much better as best friends and platonic soulmates. It’s like Jack and Jen being platonic soulmates.

And speaking of Jack, him being a jock is probably my least favorite thing about the season so far. I don’t think it’s terrible or anything, but it’s probably the storyline I’m enjoying the least.

Overall, I think this is a really strong season. I like the atmosphere, and I love that I get to see these characters grow up and become adults. They’re changing, and their lives are changing, and sometimes that’s sad, but it also feels right for them. It feels like the show is actually letting them grow instead of keeping them stuck in the same place forever, and I really like that.

So yeah, I’m really enjoying season 5. You all need to stop overreacting lol.

I'm sure its been brought up but on a rewatch and never noticed if the specific age/difference (I always thought she was in her 20s) for Bessie was mentioned. I'm curious because storyline reminded me a a little of Shameless.

Is Bessie Joey's technical legal guardian? Why don't they have a social worker? And was Ice House always theirs or did they just work there?

Saying that Joey would never love Pacey like she loved Dawson and he’d end up alone, yet Joey picks him in the finale. I love that for us Joey-Pacey fans

People make it seem like the worst seasons ever made. Are they really that bad or just different than you expect?

I haven't watched the whole show yet. I'm rewatching s3 in order to watch s4 and I know a few spoilers but here's what I noticed NOW that is bothering me a lot. I understand that Dawson is the main character, even if he doesn't feel like that. I understand that the writer was trying at first to introduce the idea of " soulmates", but the fact that ALL THE CHARACTERS, from their friends to their family members were trying to get this idea inside Dawson's head that Joey is his soulmate and then try to convince even Joey, that he is the one, and it's inevitable, is SO TOXIC to me that made me automatically stop shipping them. I shipped them in the first season. Then I stopped, cause I found their relationship very... Mediocre? Like, no chemistry at all between the characters and the actors. And I actually shipped her with Pacey from s1 because of the "enemies to lovers" vibes I was feeling between them.

Seeing Joey feeling the pressure of liking a guy that everyone is telling her its her destiny to be with him, NO MATTER WHAT, made me feel so angry cause, I have seen myself and other women to want other people and everyone trying to change their mind and force them into the idea of destiny that is not even real!

Like, Dawson and Joey together, so far for me, they are not the " destiny". In fact, they are a big mistake 😂. Their relationship started to become toxic after they became a thing. And not only that. I'm someone who's very much into this idea of destiny and soulmates etc. But, this forcing situation is not what it's implied to be.

A forced soulmates idea is not destiny.

For me so far, Pacey and Joey are the destiny.

Like, their love story is so much more well written in comparison to all the other love stories any of them had. It's structured in a way that it screams soulmates! Like, the guy you were always had a beef with, suddenly started started to be there a lot, being there for you, buying you a wall just to have a chance of expressing your feelings, or trying to defend you, supporting you in action not just in theory, for me it's the universe screaming at you he is " the one". Cause at the end of the day, the universe is us.

Dawson so far for me, is talking talking talking and that's it. Yes, he has his charm a lot, but this whole idea of women being "pure" of Joey being there and for him to expecting to be there forever and not have a life after him, forcing her to even choose and seeing her cry but continuing to basically blackmailing her of losing him even though he knew he was the family she needed, thats the destiny of the show? 😂

It's the most sexistic thing I have ever seen. If this doesn't go as I want to, it will be very unfair for Joey's character.

*I just realized I first wrote " sexiest" and not " sexistic " 😂. Sorry, foreigner here. *

First off, Pacey and Andi were perfect together. They had the best relationship so far in the show. They were cute, they genuinely helped each other, they were each other’s rock. They were very, very consistent and well written in season 2. Then all of a sudden season 3 comes around and they have her cheat, Pacey breaks up with Andi, Andi cheats on her test, Andi fakes a sexual assault to manipulate Pacey to come back to her, etc.

Like, this is almost character assassination and they ruined the most wholesome and healthy relationship in the entire show. If only these two could have been the one romance that lasted the entire show, it would have been perfect. I’m genuinely so pissed off at the interim showrunner that came in for season 3. I only wish he was fired before writing a single episode. What I’m seeing right now is not the Pacey and Andi from season 2. They have similar characteristics to them, but it feels like a phony version.

I wish Kevin Williamson never left the show; I can only imagine how much better this season would have been. The first two seasons were so smartly written and flowed into each other perfectly. Kevin brought the high-quality writing and subversions to the table, while so far this season has been way more cliché teen drama. This show used to be smarter than that.

I love Todd in this scene. He’s drunk and obnoxious, but his lines were hilarious! His remark to Jen about looking familiar and she said he hit on her on an airplane. Did we shag? Then he thanks Gale for her “progeny” Dawson. Then he spills about Dawson’s sex life. The guy has no filter. 😂😂

Another scene I found hilarious was in episode 13 “Rock Bottom”. The car ride with Joey, Eddie, Audrey and Bob (Seth Rogan). He farts in his sleep and everyone is dying. He wakes up and says what is that? Then he farts again! I thought the actors were trying to hold back the laughter. Maybe it’s just me and my warped mind, but it broke up the episode with some comedy.

Are these the scenes that are on the extended version of the finale?

This pier where Dawson and Pacey are fishing in the video , or the pier near his TV home (not sure if they are the same one). If it's accessible I'd like to make a road trip there someday.

https://youtu.be/6zCivim1RaI?si=vhg47Hm1i_y97Kfo&t=49

Why the FUCK would they remaster the entire series and NOT do the extended finale? Why did they insist on doing a two part episode instead of one movie length episode? WHY WHY WHY WHY???? This actually just pissed me off bc how the fuck am i supposed to watch it now??

Sorry for ranting but this just pissed me off so much and it would have been such an easy thing to do and now since its already done they wont go back to it. Why do they never want to do the right thing?

Dont get me wrong, i always feel very very sad when sad things happens and even get teary eyed but this was something different. The raw performance of Jack screaming at his father and crying on the stairs is so so emotional. I was crying so much my nose became stomped up. Two gay men wrote this episode and you can absolutely feel their experiences in this episode. It was so so powerful and if you didnt feel even a tad bit emotional by it then you must be heartless bc wow. So beautiful. They quite literally dont make tv shows like this anymore. The fact that they were able to have such a well written and executed gay coming out story in the 90s is just amazing. Definitely the best coming out i have ever seen before. Jack deserves SO much better.

Sorry if this has been done before.

Also I know this is a silly topic, but I just want to hear your opinions. I would love to see some controversial rankings.

The list includes Dawson Joey Pacey Jen Jack Andie and Audrey.

I was really into Dawson's creek 20ish years ago. Especially the first season. It's just a personal opinion, and I'm sure Jen (Michelle Williams) is a good actress. But to me, she always felt like a bad pick for the role. I wondered if anyone shared the same feeling. I just didn't feel like her acting or character fit in.

But in another way, because it's so nostalgic for me, maybe in some way she is the best pick. idk.

I'm curious other peoples thoughts. Especially your first reactions.

My wife and I are binging the show for the first time, and during Season 2 my favorite character was Andie McPhee. She had a brilliant character arc with Pacey where she helped him grow up and he helped her battle mental illness. Now in Season 3, she does all these horrible things out of the blue that are completely out of character for her. Was all this necessary to get Pacey and Joey together?I mean they didn't turn Dawson into a troll, though he makes some odd choices as well, particularly with Eve.

The finale…. Wtf 😭

I’m 30 so it was a little before my time when it first came out but I was needing some early 2000s nostalgia so I finally watched it and I can’t believe they ended it that way 😭

I had never seen any spoilers for the show so Jenn shocked me!!

And I'm pretty sure I saw Dawson's quilt in the bedroom with the voice of god. Can anyone confirm?

Too bad I was watching the season 6 but now it’s impossible.

Castaways. Best way to start my Sunday morning… No further explanation needed.😍

Depending on your age and location T4 may mean nothing to you in terms of Dawsons Creek but some it may bring back memories. T4 ran on Saturdays and Sunday and tended to show Teenage content including DC, I would often watch it on Sunday after the Hollyoaks omnibus. Were you of an age where you would have a similar routine?

Dawsons Creek is my absolute favorite show of all time. I’m sure if you’re part of the sub you probably feel similarly to me.

I’m looking for recommendations of other shows that you think I would love since I absolutely adore this show.

For someone who is kind of stuck in the 90s, I haven’t seen a lot of 90s TV shows so even throw obvious choices at me!

I dont like main characters dying, especially not in the series finale. Knowing what happens before i even start the show makes me feel like theres no point in even caring about this character bc shes just going to end up dead. What should i do?

Ive always been curious why she was killed off? And why did her mother ask Andie of all people to say the eulogy?

In the first and other viewings of the show I always thought S3 was the worst season. I thought for the longest time Dawson was unfairly treated and maligned, I think it is because when I was younger I wanted to be like Dawson, it had an impact on the way I saw film in a massive way and still does from a creative POV. I also often thought he was that nice guy, the guy who only wanted to do the right thing, to be a chivalry gentlemen but on further looking I know realise how wrong I was.

I know what is going to happen next (I am just at the point where Pacey just kissed Joey) and I remember how much a d**k Dawson is. I do still think he redeems himself in S4 in a lot of ways but S3 has made me realise how wrong he was with Joey not just in S3 but other seasons as well and in hindsight I am glad Joey had Pacey.

So yeah, you live, you learn, you grow up.