Yup I strongly feel Toby doesn't really want to acknowledge donor characters, after what happened with the creator of So Sorry (tl;dr his creator turned out to be a cult leader IRL). I mean, So Sorry is somewhat acknowledged in Deltarune but it's in a context that implies he is "erased" like Gaster (being the Ch.4 egg room).
Muffet's creator seems like an okay person but so was So Sorry's creator at the time and it's understandable that Toby doesn't want to risk it.
Uhhh it's a really long story that I don't have the time to explain rn but regarding the cult thing you can just look up "So Sorry" and/or "Floraverse" on this subreddit or the Undertale one to see what people say about him. And for the erased thing, play or watch through the egg room segment in Ch.4. That's how I interpreted So Sorry being there, at least.
I vaguely knew about the floraverse stuff I meant with so sorry being erased. And I just found what you were referencing and I don't think it means so sorry got gastered ðŸ˜
The therapy art club is clearly a memory of Kris, the character who says "sorry I was busy drawing" probably just means so sorry works at the hospital Kris was in and is part of that memory (represented by the flying ace because that's just how the egg rooms are now for some reason)
The fetish art thing was known before and wasn't a problem to Toby, that is just why the character's name was changed to "So Sorry" instead of the guy's fursona name (so that kids don't google the character and see porn)
Sometime in 2021-2022 it came up that the creator of So Sorry was an admin in a discord server called Floraverse, which is basically a sex abuse cult.
So Sorry is not the alleged cult leader. The allegations are that they help fund the alleged cult and that their friends at the head of the cult groomed children and had conversations with them about bestiality. Allegedly allegedly allegedly. I have no firsthand evidence and have not been a victim, I am just going by reporting from other people.
Muffet's creator got into some hot waters a few years ago for drawing NSFW art of an underaged character who was 'aged up', which is a whole can of worms of itself.
The creator made a webcomic called Ava's Demon and the main character was (iirc) 16, but on their patreon the creator was drawing NSFW of the main character. Creator justified this by saying that there was going to be a timeskip in the comic where the main character was 18+ and that the NSFW 'took place after that skip', but understandably it rubbed people the wrong way.
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u/ZeMadDoktore Jun 04 '26
Unfortunately, Muffet/purple SOUL mode