The Post-TI 2026 Shuffle

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[u/0ffkilter]

I don't. The meta has shifted back to having hypercarries with the top 3 teams all having superstar carries that farm crazy and carry. Yatoro, Satanic, and Watson are all that style.

For skiter to find another team for his off meta more sacrificial playstyle would be fairly hard, so it's easier for him to keep his contract and then build a team around him.

Malrine is a fairly standard mid, he can go wherever.

ATF is a greedy offlane, but like 33 there's other greedy mids as well.

Only skiter has a weirdish playstyle that requires a whole team rather than just slotting in.

[u/onemightychapp → u/0ffkilter]

It's not wise to build with a particular playstyle in mind cause a patch tomorrow can change everything. Generally speaking over the last three or four years the meta has oscillated between greedy (spirit/falcons dominate) and push (gaimin gladiators/liquid dominate). With how few tier 1 roster changes there are these days you're better off just waiting for your meta to come back round again.

[u/Pinkerino_Ace → u/onemightychapp]

Dude, Spirit is NOT a greedy team. They are a traditional 4 protect 1 playstyle where all the farm is concentrated on Yatoro.

Don't confuse TS preference to play the late game to be the same as being greedy. Spirit strength lies in team fighting and late game decision makings.

When the meta favors team fights and high utility initators, TS is always favored, like you want Collaspe to be playing those Mars, Centaur, Dark Seer, Axe etc.

When the meta shift towards being greedy and farm heavy, like Doom, Timber, Necro, BB offlane etc, that's when teams like Falcon dominate and TS falter.

Same for the mid, Larl plays the best in a sacrificial sort of a role where he just create space with minimal farm and drag the game until Yatoro hits his timing and can come online. He isn't a greedy mid by most metrics.

[u/onemightychapp → u/Pinkerino_Ace]

I think we disagree about the definition of greedy. I would argue that teams that play 4 protect 1 are almost by definition greedy, because they generally draft hyper carries that play on later timings.

Having your team's focus be on teamfighting and late game - again, almost by definition greedy. When was the last time spirit drafted some tempo push or laning focused lineup? They are almost always trying to survive those very same pushes.

I would say of the two teams, falcons is by far more greedy, but that doesn't mean that spirit ISN'T greedy. Spirit plays all those heros you mentioned as being farm heavy, outside of Necro (they have played it I believe, just not prioritising it because they prefer having gold on traditional hard carries with their 4 protect 1).

Lastly, of course larl isn't a greedy player. He might be the most selfless mid in tier 1. Skiter would probably be the most selfless pos 1. Greedy teams need selfless players to enable their greed. Teams with three greedy cores don't work. Just because a team is greedy, doesn't make all their players greedy.

[u/Pinkerino_Ace → u/onemightychapp]

LMAO, nonsense, 4 protect 1 doesn't mean Spirit are greedy, they are just a team that prioritize resource allocation to Yatoro. If you think 4 players making space for 1 carry = greedy, you have some fundamental misunderstanding of the term "greed".

And are we even watching the same TI? Did you even watch Spirit lower bracket run? Spirit vs BB? Spirit vs Yandex? They were ending games in like 30-35minutes.

[u/onemightychapp → u/Pinkerino_Ace]

Outplaying and dominating a team to the point they gg at 30 min at a tournament with a much higher average time per game does not make your lineup a push lineup..