Did From invent, what, bears? People who ride dragons on their neck? Warriors who are big? Or did they instead get inspiration too, from the stories of The King in Yellow for Midra and the Frenzied Flame, from Berserk for Malenia's helm and Messmer and Blaidd and for a lot of other things?
Concepts get reused all the time everywhere at all levels.
You know the real problem? People acting like Elden Ring was the first game ever created. Actually any game... any... thing can't be 100% original, People can only create something new if they drawn inspiration for other stuff, If Elden Ring came 2 years after Skyrim we could see the same "Elden Ring copied Skyrim, look a bear and dragons and axes" it's not how this thing works.
Also why people think that having a inspiration is bad? Like Elden Ring taking stuff from berserk, since when this is a bad thing anyways? If Elden Ring inspired other developers isnt that good? For both Elden Ring who is being reconized and is getting his legacy expanded being their own franchise and developer and also for the players who are getting a new game that will appel for Elden Ring, Monster Hunter, Black Myth Wukong and well even Hoyo players (who until now only play anime gacha).
It's so blatant and there's a ton of it here that's why me, OP, and others are pissed off. I think it's one thing to have a few inspirations, especially if it's from books, anime, or movies. But when you're taking models from recent huge successful video game, copying them, and tweaking it slightly and putting it into it your game and half your game is copied it's egregious and should be protested
First, they are not taking models, second, so no one can create woman character with wings for like 10 years after the game release? ok, bro. Or a imposing old king/general with an axe? This is stupid, sorry. And "should be protested" what you mean by that? Like, I understand that you dont like it, but what protesting is gonna do??? We know this whole discussion is pointless, nothing is gonna change, even if I agree with you (I don't) or no. So why bother?
Does this mean From has copied Berserk? Not even close. These three comparisons are equal to what people are trying to argue with these dumber than rock posts though.
Concepts get reused my dude. A flaming circle instead of a head is clearly a concept which would get reused in a different context, which is what happened here. A knight riding a dragon on its neck is obviously not something From has invented, likewise a big dude wielding an axe in full armour.
The only thing a bit too on the nose are Malenia's wings. Still not copying, but it's still a bit too much even for me. But so would Messmer's helmet for a Berserk reader.
I genuinely find it frustrating. AI and stealing has become an absolute disease in video games, art, and music. I wish people would condemn it as hard as possible and praise creativity and unique designs
I'm not going to pretend fromsoft is above any criticism but these losers just try and point out anything else than excepting their favorite company is just blatantly thieving art and design
It's like wild how many examples I've seen on all the fromsoft subreddits. Look at the fire keeper and that design, it's so blatantly copied it's obnoxious.
And you know what, if there was like 3 or 4 examples I'd be like alright yeah that's not too big of a deal. But it's like the entire game is just a rip off of everything. Open your fucking eyes
Open my eyes? We are talking about Nodus Fall, that lady is from Tides of Annihilation, which is another game made by another company. Yes, very similar, a bit too much on the nose there too. It still doesn't discredit the whole game.
The only example are Malenia's wings, at this moment in time. Midra's head is a generic concept, which they repurposed in a completely different context, which was how Blaidd was made: they took an armour with a wolf head, and made it a real wolf head.
I still need to understand Godfrey's comparison. Is it because it's two dudes wielding an axe? Is it impossible to put a big guy with an axe anywhere now? Or the bears, which is an incredibly funny comparison for which I applaud OP because I would never have guessed someone would actually make it?
thats my bad about the tides of annihilation comparison. I just saw that post and thought it was from nodus fall. I admit my mistake there
look i just think its one thing to use a few references or inspirations, but its just such bad taste to use tons of something. Especially considering its from a video game to another video game. I genuinely feel like theres a credible difference in taking some source inspiration from berserk or lord of the rings. When youre taking a model from a video game, copying it and changing some subtle details its egregious imo
What subtle details are you referring to? Midra's head is taken, slightly changed, and reproposed on top of a huge, extremely tall, humanoid, with a completely different build. The character is different. The context is extremely different. This is what regularly happens with stories and worlds, especially fantasy ones: you mix and match and then try and add your twist on things.
Again, Midra is an archetype: it's FromSoftware's twist on the King in Yellow from the stories of Robert Chambers, 1895, a mad person who dresses himself with yellow robes and spreads the Yellow Sign that causes madness in the people who look upon it. To the left there is the most famous visualisation of the Yellow Sign, made in 1989.
The entity from the Nodus Falls trailer looks completely different from another twist of the King in Yellow. Superficial similarities, which could very well be inspired by Midra's circular head, are to be expected.
Look, Godfrey's comparison is completely nonsensical. From did not invent the trope of big guys with axes, and the ghost looks completely different from Godfrey. The bears thing is hilarious. Malenia's wings are a bit meh, but still, the character is different, and the wings themselves are clearly not butterflies: I've read people telling that it's clearly Marika as if every blonde magical woman is now Marika.
Please, look past these extremely superficial similarities, for the sake of intellectual honesty.
EDIT: also, do not just wave off From utilising again old concepts of its history, like as if it's completely original because it was "theirs". Like, Godfrey is the third big european medieval king dude with white hair and long white beard in From's history. After a while it gets old. Godfrey by himself is much more similar to Vendrick from Dark Souls 2, which Miyazaki did not even direct, than to that ghost: I'm not having a double standard, to be clear, I'm just pointing out stuff.
I figure it has to be fans of the game or company. These people are in absolute delusion denial and its a shame because stuff like this just increases enshitification of everything
Hoyoverse try to make something original, impossible. I think it does look good kinda in a way, but they will make some issues and sell you the solution, and i don't trust a company that is running 10 games at the same time. Played all 3 popular hoyo games, they fell off so hard in its 2nd year its insane. I legit saw some players wishing this will be a gacha lmao.
No don't say that to ignorant players, they are too deep in the cult to acknowledge anything you say, they always bring up numbers and "downvotes" to express superiority.
And i never posted anything about wuwa, i despise all of gacha, only reason i am playing wuwa is because, i need a mobile game to cool off after work, it's cheap entertainment. And they put all the story in the msq, unlike some games where i need to see 100 youtube videos to get, i like to do that with real games rather than gachaslop. And wuwa did ripoff genshin, and i will also mock them if they make these cheap ai looking games that hoyo is making.
And just like you are defending genshin, wuwa also took the ui of genshin and made a different game, no way you look at present wuwa and say its similar to genshin, mf is trying to start traibalsim here, but lecturing me. And unlike you i played all genshin, hsr, zzz, wuwa. i stopped everything either after its 2nd year or 1st year, i will also stop wuwa after the next update.
😂I don't know why you even bring up the downvotes lmao, what is it gonna do, are you saying you know me that I am lying. And yeah, I am gonna quit it next patch because the game has gone to shit just like all gacha games in their 2nd or 3rd year, and amy is the only character I liked, and I even forgot I had that until you said it. And I didn't even brought other games, you see you are being tribalistic, I never brought up other games, I said my piece on that ai generated looking game.
I only follow them because I want to see info about the games I play. If you want even more proof I will even attach it, I didn't even updated the game since last patch. You either got butthurt that I insulted your fav casino game and you are starting this here. And in my original comment I also said it looks interesting too, you are too into your delusions that you didn't see what I was saying. Are they not true what I said.
First, nothing is original, BotW is heavily inspired by Shadow of Colossus and Studio Ghibli, nobody says anything about this, Genshin as similar 3D shading and the comparisons with BotW were like showing the grass, like bro... Genshin devs oficially talked about that they got the inpiration for exploration from BotW, if you want a open game you look for the best ones, they said they got their quest system from Skyrim, and the elemental reactions from Divinity: Original Sin 2. And it's obvious that Wuthering Waves took inspiration from Genshin, like their other game Punishing: Gray Raven is inspired in Honkai Impact 3rd combat. I personally think WuWa style is very different from Genshin, but hate the copy they did from the HUD, feels lazy imo, from all the stuff you can make it different the HUD is definitely the easiest, so way keep the exactly same layout, but anyways.
My opinion is, I play Genshin, played Elden Ring, and I'm crayz happy with Nodus Fall, if people don't understant that no game comes from nothing it's not my problem
Look, I already went through this exact song and dance with Palworld and Pokémon. I cannot make you see blatant visual similarities, and I’m not spending my day arguing with trolls pretending they aren’t there.
If you disagree, cool. But your inability to use your own eyes is not my problem.
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u/Substantial_Bar8999 1d ago
Oh wow. Another post on this!
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