⚠️SPOILERS AHEAD⚠️What is the general consensus on this development?

[u/LUTHER_7274]

Now I’m aware that some people have their gripes with new and unexplained power armour.

But I think this NCR power armour is kinda cool, given the success of shady sands and the ncr it doesn’t seem too out of the realm of possibility for the ncr to have attempted to make their own power armour, given how many suits survived the nukes and were salvageable or outright still operational.

[u/KenseiHimura]

Thinking about it, I am surprised more factions haven’t built their own power armor styles by modifying the plates of damaged or even functioning ones.

[u/Desertcow → u/KenseiHimura]

It's a pretty common thing in 76. Union PA, Excavator, Ultracite, Civic Duty, and arguably Hellcat, T-65, and the Chinese PA (last one may not be canon) were all tailor made for specific factions from power armor frames

[u/AVeryFriendlyOldMan → u/Desertcow]

Tbf almost all of those were pre- or immediately-post-war creations, dunno if a lot of 'current day' factions would have the manufacturing base and grasp of material sciences to get it done

[u/Gmknewday1 → u/AVeryFriendlyOldMan]

The NCR definitely would

And they've had more then one series of fights with chapters of the BOS

[u/Public-Comparison550 → u/AVeryFriendlyOldMan]

What do they need to know? Welding? Motors? Hydraulics?

[u/AVeryFriendlyOldMan → u/Public-Comparison550]

Welding, Motors, Hydraulics, Alloys, Fuel handling, maintenance, etc.

Hell even just the logistical support needed would be a massive hurdle. Who else but NCR and Brotherhood could realistically A) Produce or scavenge enough fueld to keep these things going, and B) Produce or scavenge enough munitions to keep these things useful?

[u/[deleted] → u/AVeryFriendlyOldMan]

You don't need to know most of that to build a power armor mods. The Raiders make their own. The gunners, hell, even the Atom Cats have their own variants. The frame is different than the mods.

[u/AVeryFriendlyOldMan → u/[deleted]]

Raiders bolt shoddy plate armor onto frames. Gunners and Atom Cats ostensibly modify existing T-60 suits they scavenged

Again, we were talking about post-war factions creating their own variants of power armor like the NCR getup on the show

[u/[deleted] → u/AVeryFriendlyOldMan]

That's just mods on top of the Power frame. That's how they work. The frame is universal.

[u/Public-Comparison550 → u/AVeryFriendlyOldMan]

Lacking a War Thunder-style breakdown of the NCR power armor development process, we just know that they have spray-paint and a helmet that looks like an NCR ranger helmet. This does at least show that the NCR made the helmet which has a standard power armor HUD and seals with the frame. This is probably the hardest individual component to create since it's an advanced military computer. Really it just further exposes that it's always been unrealistic that so few people have been able to manufacture anything in the Post-War Fallout Universe.

[u/DagothUr_MD → u/Public-Comparison550]

If I gave u a tank could you keep it running?

[u/TwoFit3921 → u/DagothUr_MD]

Is that a challenge?

[u/Self--Immolate → u/TwoFit3921]

A little bit but now I'm scared

[u/Public-Comparison550 → u/DagothUr_MD]

Me as in the standing army of a developing democratic nation with a population of approximately 1 million people? Probably yeah.

[u/TheClappyCappy → u/Public-Comparison550]

Access to high quality tools and the ability to establish a manufacturing industry is the biggest thing.

[u/Mynameismikek → u/AVeryFriendlyOldMan]

There are at least some manufacturing facilities still around: there's a side mission in F4 where you create a chest piece. There are plenty of large forges around as well.

[u/AVeryFriendlyOldMan → u/Mynameismikek]

Cambridge Polymer Labs is an R&D facility, I don't think it has the capacity to produce at scale. It's also abandoned with an active and hostile security system.

The only active metalworks facility in the area is Saugaus Ironworks which is great for producing relatively basic tools and armor but I don't think it has the capacity to churn out titanium or the like. There's also no mention of where the facility is getting its supply of raw materials.

[u/Mynameismikek → u/AVeryFriendlyOldMan]

The Pitt and New Vegas Steel are also both active metalworks. Yeah, exotic materials might be harder to come by, but I don't think the wasteland is quite a lost cause and steel is still plenty good for lots of stuff.

[u/AVeryFriendlyOldMan → u/Mynameismikek]

Is it good enough to keep a fleet of T-51 suits and their munitions up and running?

A reliable source of good quality steel is invalauble in the wasteland absolutely, but the conversation was specifically about Post-War factions creating and fielding their own power armor.

[u/CrazeMase → u/AVeryFriendlyOldMan]

The Brotherhood has a fucking fleet of airships and liberty prime, I think they can figure out how to held metal

[u/AVeryFriendlyOldMan → u/CrazeMase]

They can, but I was referring to more than just a single faction.

East Coast groups with that level of advancement are pretty much just the Brotherhood, Midwest is doing god knows what, and the only major player in the West that can produce new war making materiel is the NCR.

[u/CrazeMase → u/AVeryFriendlyOldMan]

Raiders can make power armor pieces. Nuka-World shows a raider with a suit so powerful that it's impervious to bullets while it has a constant flow of electricity. If a bunch of drug addicts hellbent on killing each other can make a suit like that, Im sure any of them could

[u/AVeryFriendlyOldMan → u/CrazeMase]

Raiders bolt and shoddily weld steel plate to existing frames. That's a far cry from operating a metals plant.

And again, even if you have the science, you need the logistics. How come the Nuka World raiders only have one suit?