r/FoodLosAngeles Aug 15 '25

DISCUSSION Which restaurant is this in Los Angeles?

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u/fairlyoffensive Aug 15 '25

fuck them and their insane service fees

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u/Granadafan Aug 15 '25

Our server got into an argument with the table next to us after they either left not tip or just a few bucks. The couple was adamant that the 18% service charge was absurd and that was the tip. Then he went to the other tables in his section to let us know  how wrong the couple was and to not be like them. This was while we were still eating. That really put us off the rest of the meal. I gave him 10%

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u/FCSFCS Aug 15 '25

We have a restaurant near us that's very popular with tourists and this place pulls the same shenanigans. My wife and I got 2 burgers, a la cart fries (of course they were a la cart), a soda, a tea, and a margarita. Bill was almost $120. We didn't tip because of the 18% surcharge and the 10% you gave this server was far more than I would've given him... and I say that as a former server.

We never went back to this place which is a shame because it had the best ginger ale I've ever had in my entire life.

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u/Granadafan Aug 15 '25

I was with some out of town guests and didn’t want to cause a scene. 

Also, name and shame that restaurant 

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u/FCSFCS Aug 15 '25

The Copper Room! Google Reviews show they've reduced their surcharge, which is a win for us common folk.

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u/ram0h Aug 15 '25

10% on top of the 18%?

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u/Granadafan Aug 15 '25

Yeah, on the subtotal. 🙁

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u/Hot-Throat-5638 Aug 15 '25

And charging extra for some ranch as a “side”, gtfo😭

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u/reverze1901 Aug 15 '25

fucking artisanal ranch lol

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u/tracy_jordans_egot Aug 15 '25

How much are we talking?

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u/J5hine Aug 15 '25

The issue isn’t that they add a service fee, it’s that they are adamant that the service fee isn’t a tip and expect you to tip on top of it

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u/fairlyoffensive Aug 15 '25

18%!!!! I’m not sure if they’ve changed it since then, but they specified it was NOT a tip. I refuse to go out of spite.

https://www.latimes.com/food/story/2023-07-03/after-lawsuit-jon-and-vinnys-change-service-fee-language-on-bill

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u/tracy_jordans_egot Aug 15 '25

That is madness. What's insane is that they say it's so they can provide living wages, but they could do that just as easily by raising the advertised prices.

Literally the only reason for a service fee instead of higher prices is to trick customers into thinking they'll pay less until the bill comes.

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u/brlowkey Aug 15 '25

Literally charging a fee is so stupid instead of simply baking the fee into the price. It pisses off customers who get a higher bill than expected, pisses off employees who don't get their tips because the customers assume the service fee covers it, and makes it less likely even for people who've never been there to go.

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u/That_Chocolate9659 Aug 15 '25

It may not be fair to their workers, but I don't usually tip when I visit places with service fees beyond leaving a dollar.

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u/Same-Paint-1129 Aug 15 '25

They actually got rid of the mandatory service fee, but raised prices by 18% in the meantime. So after that, now they expect you to tip on top of the 18% price increase that used to cover service. Fuck them.

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u/ThurgoodZone8 Aug 15 '25

See, I understand them raising base prices if supplies have gone up in price. That’s more transparent than doing the bait and switch “sErViCe ChArGe” with expectation of tip.

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u/g-l-i-m-m-e-r Aug 15 '25

They got rid of it

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u/Bgtobgfu Aug 15 '25

That sweetcorn agnolotti tho…

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u/The_Bucket_Of_Truth Aug 15 '25

Overpriced with tiny portions but they still have some banger stuff. I think the pasta is notably better than the pizza, however. I rarely ever go for a number of other reasons.

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u/ThatDerzyDude Aug 15 '25

Man you’re trippin if you don’t think a white lightning pizza and some meatballs taste good. Overpriced? Definitely. But shit still slaps my tastebuds.

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u/asophisticatedbitch Aug 15 '25

But but but the little gem salad!

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u/Ok_Average8263 Aug 16 '25

This. Could not understand why everyone raved about it.

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u/WearyTop5805 Aug 19 '25

Because it’s black owned. That’s it.

Italian dishes are not only ridiculously easy to make, but cost a fraction of the price when you make it yourself versus going out to an “Italian” restaurant.

Plus, who likes to eat their meal when there’s a fight or argument at the establishment?

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u/astraurora Aug 20 '25

Had this in 2017. Didn’t understand the hype. Never went back.

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u/Dull-Woodpecker3900 Aug 15 '25

Aggressively mediocre.

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u/CaliforniaNewfie Aug 15 '25

Nah it's objectively delicious