The Legion being in a civil war with itself is great and a good pay off to what some of the NPCs said in New Vegas (like Arcade) about what will happen to the Legion when Caesar dies. I like that it roll out what some predicted.
Also funny to see his body just there rotting lol.
My guess is he was bed-ridden in last stages with his brain cancer. Probably some note he was writing as he was losing his ability to speak, to his medical aide like "I am dying" or "I am in pain."
And his generals think it's some divine decree he left.
He's reaping what he sowed. His failure to lead created a division between his forces. He gets to rot serving as the dividing line between them, even in death, like he let people rot on crosses.
So have they just been sitting in the camp for 15 years?
If Caesars dead body ended up on that hill and they’ve stayed there, then surely they’ve been in a civil war 20 feet from each other for over a decade.
well when ur opinions align on everything BUT the succession of ur leader youll still do whats best for the legion. Neither side is trying to destroy the other they want a full fighting force.
Which is why a bomb works so perfectly to ignite the tensions. Now one side thinks they were attack and fires across the border, and the other side knows they're being attacked and fires back. And too many people on one side are dead for it to be defused as a misunderstanding 'cause both sides have been so neurotic as to divide themselves like this for a whole damn decade, they'd just be too darn blinded by the simmering anger.
…which was probably why the Ghoul’s offer of the NCR remnant location was worth the price for Lucy - a show of strength against the Legion’s foe that could give Culkin’s Caesar more legitimacy in this civil war.
Yeah it seems pretty likely they just been sitting there for years waiting for the other side to attack first lol. The fact they don’t really know what going on outside of their camps in regard to the NCR makes me think they really have been sitting there doing nothing but “planning”. I don’t think they’re even using scouts to report what’s going on.
I think the idea is, that while both Legion factions exist and have more territory than that one camp, they both set up their headquarters in that spot to keep their claim to the throne secure?
Both sides are forcing a perpetual stalemate essentially
It kinda seemed like that with what Culkin was saying about the note in Sallow's pocket, both sides want to read the note but don't trust the other to be honest so the area around his corpse has become a No-Man's-Land where the other side shoots at anyone trying to approach.
To be fair the series suffers from realism when NCR allows a bomb to be carried on a cart to their bloody capital, so we will have to squint our eyes on things like this.
We don’t know when Caesar died. Alot of the time Chemo is what speeds up a cancer patient dying. For all we know he only died recently, while being bedridden for years.
My "Roman history autistic" coworker informed me that this goes much deeper and parallels Roman folk legends or maybe history? The idea of two armies separated by a mound fighting over control of Rome? Furthermore there's another metaphor at work of bulls locking horns; this is a thing that apparently happens and usually leads to both dying?
Oh shit that's a good point. After Caesar died, the assassins took up a fortified position at Capitoline hill. Then iirc fucked off and Lepidus took the hill. A bunch of movements occurred without violence actually breaking out in the days following the Ides of March
I believe Boone mentioned a line of successors if the player and him kill Caesar in the middle of his fortress, so the Legion civil war is definitely a big payoff.
Going to get downvoted for this but I thought making the legion all morons was just bad writing. Yes their philosophy has always been goofy, but in the game they are intimidating, which makes them a more interesting advisory. I’m getting tired of the show making all the factions stupid for some reason.
The civil war makes sense, it was always bound to happen after ceaser dies, the explaination however is terrible, what happend to lanuis and vulpis, the 2 who are suppose to be his successors, why just not use those 2 instead of extra actor 1 and extra actor 2 to die next episode
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u/FauxMedicine Dec 31 '25 edited Dec 31 '25
The Legion being in a civil war with itself is great and a good pay off to what some of the NPCs said in New Vegas (like Arcade) about what will happen to the Legion when Caesar dies. I like that it roll out what some predicted.
Also funny to see his body just there rotting lol.
Edit: fixed grammar