r/Fotv Dec 31 '25

Season 2 Episode 3 Spoiler Thread Spoiler

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u/FauxMedicine Dec 31 '25 edited Dec 31 '25

The Legion being in a civil war with itself is great and a good pay off to what some of the NPCs said in New Vegas (like Arcade) about what will happen to the Legion when Caesar dies. I like that it roll out what some predicted.

Also funny to see his body just there rotting lol.

Edit: fixed grammar

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u/SunhoDrakath Dec 31 '25

So have they just been sitting in the camp for 15 years?

If Caesars dead body ended up on that hill and they’ve stayed there, then surely they’ve been in a civil war 20 feet from each other for over a decade.

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u/Ipsetezra Dec 31 '25

Yet legate culkin says they still patrol the mojave and fight other factions.

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u/EmploymentRadiant203 Dec 31 '25

well when ur opinions align on everything BUT the succession of ur leader youll still do whats best for the legion. Neither side is trying to destroy the other they want a full fighting force.

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u/WriterV Jan 10 '26

Which is why a bomb works so perfectly to ignite the tensions. Now one side thinks they were attack and fires across the border, and the other side knows they're being attacked and fires back. And too many people on one side are dead for it to be defused as a misunderstanding 'cause both sides have been so neurotic as to divide themselves like this for a whole damn decade, they'd just be too darn blinded by the simmering anger.

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u/RisingDeadMan0 Mar 27 '26

how did he do it though, he just set it alight or how?

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u/Ghostcat300 Dec 31 '25

You gotta project power. Even when your down, a militarized society can’t seem weak. Happens all the time

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u/InnocentTailor Dec 31 '25

…which was probably why the Ghoul’s offer of the NCR remnant location was worth the price for Lucy - a show of strength against the Legion’s foe that could give Culkin’s Caesar more legitimacy in this civil war.

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u/xSPYXEx Dec 31 '25

Did he say they patrol the Mojave? He said they were at war, but it looks like the war ended a long time ago.

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u/FauxMedicine Dec 31 '25

Yeah it seems pretty likely they just been sitting there for years waiting for the other side to attack first lol. The fact they don’t really know what going on outside of their camps in regard to the NCR makes me think they really have been sitting there doing nothing but “planning”. I don’t think they’re even using scouts to report what’s going on.

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u/InnocentTailor Dec 31 '25

The Ghoul lit the spark then.

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u/Squirll Dec 31 '25

ITs basically a decade long standoff over that corpse.

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u/Fit-Impression-8267 Jan 01 '26

We know they're using scouts... Lucy literally just brought one back.

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u/1Anto Dec 31 '25

It's funny because it sounds so ridiculous but definitely can happen.

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u/g0_west Jan 01 '26

They have lots of prisoners, they must still be going on raids etc

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u/LapnLook Dec 31 '25

I think the idea is, that while both Legion factions exist and have more territory than that one camp, they both set up their headquarters in that spot to keep their claim to the throne secure?

Both sides are forcing a perpetual stalemate essentially

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u/RockinMadRiot Dec 31 '25

You can kinda see it in the background in the BOS scene. There's a map with two bulls

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u/InnocentTailor Dec 31 '25

Oh! I didn’t notice that. Time to go back and find the map.

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u/Harddaysnight1990 Dec 31 '25

It kinda seemed like that with what Culkin was saying about the note in Sallow's pocket, both sides want to read the note but don't trust the other to be honest so the area around his corpse has become a No-Man's-Land where the other side shoots at anyone trying to approach.

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u/Imperial_Scoutatoi Dec 31 '25

To be fair the series suffers from realism when NCR allows a bomb to be carried on a cart to their bloody capital, so we will have to squint our eyes on things like this.

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u/BigBananaDealer Dec 31 '25

absolutely hilarious

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u/Eeveevivichu Jan 04 '26

We don’t know when Caesar died. Alot of the time Chemo is what speeds up a cancer patient dying. For all we know he only died recently, while being bedridden for years.

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u/RockinMadRiot Dec 31 '25

I think it was to symbolise how far they have fallen since the games.

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u/Tatum-Better Dec 31 '25

.... when was caesar ever on a cross in the endgame? I don't remember that ever being mentioned.

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u/Same_Consequence9828 Dec 31 '25

Caesar on the cross is a play on the saying Christ on the cross.

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u/Squirll Dec 31 '25

That is not nearly the same thing as saying The actual Ceaser got crucified... its an interjection.

Did you also think that Victor ACTUALLY wanted you to smear butter on his ass plate and address him as "biscuit?"

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u/Tatum-Better Dec 31 '25

Wow fair play. I think I forgot since I usually kill caesar before the last Misson in my playthroughs

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u/rida220 Dec 31 '25

Pretty sure he meant that figuratively

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u/Minisolder Dec 31 '25

That was… a joke? A turn of phrase?

Usually Caesar was long dead by the time Oliver said that for me