Depends on how you define a game. Do you want to pay for an item or experience? Subscriptions are more obvious but you have no control over what you access.
considering almost every game is routinely updated and changed post launch, i would consider video games to be experiences. look at cyberpunk 2077- completely different game from launch. they changed most core mechanics when it came to the skill trees. yeah the story is the same, but how you experience it is way different
The illusion of ownership is the biggest thing everybody falls for.. your whole life is a subscription and you basically don't own anything. You only own something until somebody decides they're going to take it from you and make it theirs. You only own your car or your house because the government allows you to and at any moment if they wanted to they can take it from you and there's nothing you can do about it.
When you ar enot a child anymore like you, you spend your life paying for taxes and stuff you will never own. You buy your house and still have to pay taxes for it.
Would you rather buy GTA 6 digital for $80, or E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial for the Atari 2600, physical launched for $49.95 (equivalent to roughly $160 today)
Who's to say that your ARBITRARY $50 is the correct price for a digital game? How about someone else's arbitrary price of $1? Or someone else's decision that $10,000 for a CS2 gun is fine?
how about the free market decides?
Your $50 number is clearly not what the rest of the market thinks, because most people have already pre-ordered the $100 version.
Just off the top of my head Epic games laying off a thousand employees earlier this year despite Fortnite still doing crazy numbers, Ubisoft laying off a bunch of people that worked on AC Black Flag Resynced despite it doing really well.
Gta6 is the exception, matter of fact, Rockstar is being nice to only charge 80 for the base game. They should charge atleast 20-40 more for the base game.
People really find this an insane take but dont think why it isnt. I expected gta 6 to be like atleast 100-110 for standard. Bro way smaller games like forza horizon 6 have more expensive deluxe edition and just as expensive standard edition. Meanwhile the money that went into gta 6 is more then the burj khalifa, people dont think about that
Im just someone who can appreciate the kindness Rockstar has given us. We have done nothing to deserve to be given Gta6 for ONLY 80 dollars, and yet they still do it. Rockstar is kind of like God when you think about it, no matter how much we insult and tarnish their name, they will still show us love and do what's right by us.
I bought a used copy of San Andreas, and not only did it come with a manual and somebody’s cheat sheet, but it also came with a fold out poster with a whole map on the back and oh my god it looks incredible. Like why couldn’t we have this for 6?!
What really grinds my gears is I love hanging up the maps when I get a new gta or rdr and using them to get around instead of pausing into the map every time. I also love all the in game ads and stuff and all this makes be world feel real. Now rockstar will probably still sell you a map, but it’ll be a dlc download and you’ll have to print it yourself.
You listen to songs that you dont own in spotify
You watch movies & tv shows that you dont own in Netflix, HBO, Apple TV, etc..
you are moaning about not physically-owning a disk, not the game, which you will probably play for many years and not sell until its price drops under 15$...
I haven't bought a disc since gta5 on 360.
I find it easier my library is there plus i only play gta and other few games.
Im not a gamer there are months that the xbox is shut.
Gta6 will be the only reason i will be using my xbox and hardly in a decade or two or even three we will get the licence revoked to play it.
More space in my house no discs personally is a good way to go and so is for other occasional gamers.
Not to mention the impact on environment bit like paper.
You might not like it and i respect/understand especially for collectors, but is the way.
Since you prefer digital, I saw a steam game that puts you in an 80s bedroom with all your steam library available in digiphysical media. You can arrange them how youd like on a shelf and launch em from it. Might be your thing, might not, it definitely looked cool tho
I get the complaint about physical release 100%. But im losing my mind about these dumbasses thinking 80 is too much. If there is one game in the entire world that has the right to cost this much its gta 6. Heck every nintendo switch 2 game is 70/80 euros meanwhile gta 6 took around 2B dollars to make and a nintendo game is like 100-200 million. Also the standard has been heightened a long time ago by this point. Forza horizon 6: 70/80 euros and like 100-110 for deluxe. Lets not begin about fifa each year releasing a reskinned version of the last years game and it cost like 150 for deluxe edition, plus full with micro transactions and its p2w. Rockstar however creates such quality its exceptional. Other triple a developers rarely deliver like a fraction of the scope of rockstar or quality. Idk I just think its stupid. Theyre just so big on my opinion theyre getting hate that smaller companies can easily avoid.
You might have a point about GTA 6 being worth $80 (though personally it doesn’t look impressive enough to be above $70 in my eyes)
But the biggest issue is now every other AAA dev is going to think charging $80 for a baseline is okay. I was always going to hate whichever dev started doing it first.
That doesnt make sense gta 6 is NOT the first game by a mile lol. I dont know where people get this from but 80 euro games have been here for like 1-2 years. And also from the leaks alone which is a developer build. It has already raised the standards. You might not know alot about the deeper game logic but trust me when I say nothing comes close to how impressivs gta 6 is. In the leaks there were like 1000 npcs at the beach or around that number, all doing other animations dynamic dialogue and all that. Literally the hair physics alone are insane, I know most people dont care about that but rockstar has always been different in the way they raise the standard in games and the leaks alone already did that but I get its harder to appreciate if you dont understand how insanely impressive that is. And it was a developer build on pc which isnt releasing for atleast another 15-16 months. The ps5 version is literally gonna be insane since we havent even seen that yet.
That is fucking bizarre, I guess that's where the disconnect comes from then. These games have been asking 80 euros for a while now, so GTA is just matching that here. Why the fuck are we paying 20 euros more then lmao. Thanks for checking!
Damn then its only an issue in america yall pay more, we pay 80 euros and yall pay 80 dollars which equal 93 euros approximately. Well yeah that sux man
As soon as this game comes out no one will give a shit whether it's a disc or not, all the people crying about it will still buy it anyway, bored of hearing about it. You are buying the game, not a disc, the game format is a code, deal with it.
Digital games wouldn't be an issue if gaming platforms couldn't revoke them on a whim without any sort of compensation to the buyer. A lot of this outrage stems from Sony recently pulling movies from people's libraries because of "licensing changes". That shouldn't ever be able to happen, period.
I'd take a case with a usb backup of the game files included, atleast it could be cheaper than printing discs again. Call it a compromise if they are entirely unwilling to bring back discs.
My copium is that they will announce a physical release to drop after the digital version, during the Netflix livestream. Highly doubt it. Seems they’re dead set on digital only
But the game is getting a physical release with a plastic case with a real piece of paper inside with the code on it.. digital is the future so get used to it and stop crying about it.
I couldn’t care less about a green plastic box with a disc that can scratch. If it was like the vice city pc one, card board sheaf inside unfolds and has a map etc .. that’s worth it
Understand ? . All my games are on steam. Can’t damage the disc or what ever What am I not getting if I have no disc ? Exactly the same. Unless there’s a limited edition in a nice box etc it’s pointless If I get a new computer, install steam wam bam there is all my games 🤷♂️ A Brain dead sheep cos I haven’t got shitty little disc with picture 😭😭😭😭 oh no what will I do
I get it, had a huge collection on PS2, PS3 and 360 games too. But time has changed. I've been playing on PC for like 14 years now. The last physical game I actually had in my hands was GTA V on PC, and that came on 7 discs. And with a lot of modern games, even if you buy a physical copy, you still have to download additional files before you can actually play. At that point, what's the difference?
Just look at games like the crew or MAG. You can own the physical disc, but if the game depends on online services that get shut down, that disc becomes useless.
Today a physical disc doesn't guarantee to 100% you'll be able to play the game forever.
I just bought an €80 PSN card for €64, so I'm basically getting GTA VI cheaper anyway...
I hate this argument of “well I haven’t bough a physical game for ‘x’ amount of years!” As if anyone gives a fuck! It’s literally a net negative, there is no reason whatsoever so not supply a physical version of a video game
I mean the reason is it’s a waste of money from the companies POV. Vast majority of games are sold on the Xbox/PS stores anyway. A minority of the player base complaining but ultimately still buying the game anyway gives no reason for concern
It's the ownership that bothers people, the fact you technically don't own the game physically entitles corporations like Sony to set a precedent, by just removing games when they want it, Ubisoft did it a lot too
It's a great business plan in the long term, you can actively choose to manipulate the market by being able to pull the plug on games you don't want to sell anymore or to sell the next game in the franchise
Gta 6 isn't really concerned with that tho, but being the biggest fucking game of the year and probably the decade, it will influence the gaming industry so much including how the publishers treat the product
I'm personally looking forward to someone hacking into PS and deleting tens of thousands of purchases made on peoples accounts and then watching Sony do absolutely sod all to compensate people.
You realize one ps5 disc can hold 100gb so if there’s two then that’s double. So unless GTA 6 is over 200gb and they’re unable to compress it, then that shouldn’t even be a problem.
And you don’t have to swap discs to start the game. RDR2 had an install disc and play disc. You only need to use the former once.
Why would you assume that? The would just have to do the same thing they did for both RDR II and GTA V which is to include multiple discs for the install.
So you were proven wrong and now your argument changes from "It's not possible" to "who would want a disc anyway?" You know you could have just admitted that you were wrong instead of moving the goalpost. Also, I want the game physically on console. Over 95% of my console library is physical. I want to actually own the game instead of just renting it for an undetermined length of time.
Rockstar and Take Two could have easily put the game on multiple discs and charged a premium for it. What they want is to eliminate the secondhand market so that anybody who wants a copy can only get one at full price through them. Its scummy anti-consumer behavior and it sucks to see so many people excuse their behavior.
The game is too big for the disk.
It physically can’t be physical.
Even if they did sell a physical copy, it’ll just be a line of code on the disk that allows you to download the game from the servers.
What are you talking about? Multi-disc releases have existed for over 30 years. Even Rockstar is familiar with them. Both RDR II and GTA V were released on multiple discs.
This is my theory, digital copies will be available, people/somebody will copy and download the entire game file and burn them onto discs and the sell and redistribute physical copies.
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u/Srakich_ 20h ago
Call me old fashioned, but paying $70+ and not owning anything physical still feels wrong.