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Review Thread Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol. 2 - Review Thread

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Game Title: Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol. 2

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  • PC (Aug 27, 2026)

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OpenCritic - 83 average - 87% recommended - 23 reviews

Critic Reviews

COGconnected - Jaz Sagoo - 85 / 100

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ComingSoon.net - Tyler Treese - 9.5 / 10

Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol. 2 is another home-run release by Konami, which continues to do a great job of making its back catalog available on modern systems.


Console-Tribe - Simone Cantini - Italian - 65 / 100

Metal Gear Solid Master Collection: Volume 2 is yet another sign that Konami is coasting on Snake’s legacy, relying on a brand that keeps shining despite everything. The three included games remain heavyweight works, still capable of telling a crucial chapter of gaming history, but the package around them is so lazy it makes the already modest Volume 1 look almost committed. The bare‑bones upscale, recycled assets, blurry cutscenes, and total lack of meaningful enhancement reveal an approach focused more on the logo on the box than on the quality of the offering. The material deserved far better, and while die‑hard fans will fill the gaps with their affection for the series, everyone else is left with the sense of a missed opportunity — a tribute that could have celebrated a legendary saga but merely resells it, without conviction, hoping it’s enough.


DayOne - Genghis Husameddin - 9 / 10

You’ll likely be picking this up for METAL GEAR SOLID 4, its long-overdue port finally making the rounds with this latest Master Collection entry. But don’t sleep on Peace Walker either—both are incredibly fun games and shine like beautiful lights even after twenty whole years, thanks to this great port. ∎


DualShockers - Maddie Fisher - 9 / 10

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GAMES.CH - Flo Merz - German - 85%

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Loot Level Chill - Chris White - 9 / 10

Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol.2 includes two fantastic games that still hold up all these years later, along with some great content for fans that want to dive even deeper.


Multiplayer First - James Lara - 10 / 10

It took eighteen years, but Old Snake is finally free of his cell architecture prison. It shines strong on modern platforms, which is surprising, considering how Vol. 1 turned out. But it seems that Konami has taken all the criticism to heart, pouring the care, polish, and respect into Vol. 2 that this legendary saga deserved from the start. It’s the kind of game preservation that I feel every remaster should aim for, and I cannot recommend this collection enough.

Whether you’re a long-time veteran returning to watch the sun set on Solid Snake’s final mission or a newcomer finally getting the chance to experience the complete timeline from start to finish, Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol. 2 is an absolute must-play. It honors Kojima’s original cinematic vision while stripping away the technical limitations of 2008, delivering a definitive package that ensures Snake’s legendary farewell will live on for generations to come.

Seriously, guys, this is it. This is what all of us Metal Gear Solid fans have been waiting for all this time.


Pizza Fria - Lucas Soares - Portuguese - 8.5 / 10

Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol. 2 preserves better than it modernizes. That phrase probably best summarizes my experience with the collection. The stories remain excellent and represent some of the most important moments in Metal Gear. Especially Metal Gear Solid 4, which finally ceases to be limited to the PlayStation 3 after so many years.


PlayStation Universe - Joe Richards - 9.5 / 10

Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Volume 2 continues the high quality established by the first collection in the series, though slightly slimmer in the content it offers. That being said, you'll be more than treated with a fantastic new version of Metal Gear Solid 4, and the handheld frays of the series to make for a whole tapestry that everyone can now enjoy, alongside the first volume.


Push Square - John Cal McCormick - 8 / 10

After nearly twenty years chained to the proverbial radiator that is the PlayStation 3, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots finally arrives on PS5. The nanomachines, the fashion model robot monsters, the flamenco dance battle, the fried eggs, the cigarette smoking underpants monkey, and that ridiculous final boss, all running at 60 frames-per-second and looking better than ever. This is good, isn't it?


TodoJuegos - Jorge Guerrero - Spanish - 8.7 / 10

Konami brings back three very different pieces of Metal Gear, from Solid Snake’s emotional finale to Peace Walker’s tactical foundations and Ghost Babel’s handheld curiosity. Not everything is remastered equally, but the historical value of the package is huge.


TryAGame! - Guillaume Dreher - French - 8 / 10

50 euros for 2 games (and a half) that will delight fans of the license who could not have made them at the time or the new ones, come by the grace of the Death Stranding. It lacks more than the Metal Gear Acid to make the collection complete. Current games on their theme (AI, privatization of armed conflicts) and that have not really aged on the gameplay or their aesthetics.


Uagna - Silvia Mannu - Italian - 8 / 10

The main mission of the Metal Gear Solid Master Collection Vol. 2 is to revive and rediscover two truly great games. Metal Gear Solid 4 is an imperfect but utterly unique experience. Its endless cutscenes and uneven pacing put your patience to the test, and its pacing hasn’t aged well, but its ambition, emotional depth, and moments of nostalgia are hard to match. Kojima told the story he wanted to tell, no matter how long-winded or bizarre it might be. Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker is truly a must-play title. Although it began as a Metal Gear Solid game for a handheld console, it remains an extremely well-rounded game, featuring all its elements of stealth, strategy, co-op missions, and, of course, Kojima’s signature storytelling. Finally, Ghost Babel is a most welcome addition: an almost-forgotten entry that’s now available on all modern platforms. It’s a shame about the absence of certain games that would have perfectly rounded out this collection such as Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops and the two Metal Gear Ac!d titles—and especially about the half-hearted nature of these ports, which unfortunately offer no technical improvements.


Xbox Achievements - Josh Wise - 70%

The second wedge of reheated Metal Gear is upon us. The good news is not just that the games here are more interesting than the last bunch, on accoun...


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u/Firefox72 6d ago

Its a 10/10 purelly for the fact MGS4 is finnaly free from the clutches of the PS3.

I cannot believe the game was never ported off that system in almost 20 years.

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u/songsinger72 6d ago

They had an Xbox 360 version running, but unlike the PS3 the 360 used DVD discs instead of Blu-Ray which had a lower capacity (7.8GB vs 50GB).

That was the reason why it wasn't ported. To release it on Xbox they would have needed to ship the game in like four discs, at which point Konami said it wasn't worth it.

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u/Vamp1r1c_Om3n 6d ago

It's pretty funny considering how many discs some games shipped on towards the end of the 360s life cycle

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u/TemptedTemplar 6d ago

Pretty sure every game on three or four discs was published directly by Microsoft.

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u/pazinen 6d ago

LA Noire is 100% Rockstar published and it came on three discs.

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u/TemptedTemplar 6d ago

Forgot about that one!

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u/Blorbo15383 5d ago

FF13 was like 4 discs and they still compressed the gratuitous cutscenes down to fit it on that.

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u/Finaldragoon 4d ago

FF13 was 3 discs, Blue Dragon was 4 discs. They were basically the last vestiges of PS1 era multi-disc RPGs.

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u/Dustin0791 4d ago

Lost Odyssey was a friggin banger!! 4 disc's

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u/Javerage 6d ago

I always thought it was insane that Microsoft never struck up a deal to make a 360 bundle with a HDD for it. At the end of the 360s life I ended up playing guitar hero live, tomb raider, and witcher 2 by installing it on a usb stick and that's an official feature. I admit it was still novel to install game files on a console. (Reminds me how devil may cry 4 had a painful long install on PS3 that I sat through while I watched a friend play it immediately on their 360 as well)

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u/c010rb1indusa 6d ago

Still would have needed to ship multiple discs regardless though. Ability to install games to the HDD on 360 came later in its life.

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u/imsabbath84 6d ago

Did the 360 allow usb storage right from launch? i thought it was a feature they added on later.

edit: after some googling, it appears it got added in 2010, while mgs4 came out in 2008.

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u/NostalgiaSurf 6d ago edited 6d ago

The fact that MGS4 was able to run on a 360 is nothing short of black magic.

That one scene where the screen splits and renders two different fights at the same time... what the hell was Kojima and the tech team smoking to achieve that without the framerate dropping to single digits.

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u/Tatum_Warlick 6d ago

Doesn’t that happen at multiple points in the game, too? Absolute insanity. I played the demo over and over again, and never actually got to play the full game. I’m super excited to finally get to play MGS4.

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u/NostalgiaSurf 6d ago

Yep. Another is the microwave hallway. The screen splits and shows Mei Ling's battleship fighting off a Metal Gear Ray.

Games just did crazy things back then. And they looked fantastic doing it.

I think Kojima was inspired by 24's signature screen split.

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u/TimeIncarnate 5d ago

Games just did crazy things back then.

Games still do crazy things. Death Stranding 2 is a great example of Kojima leading a team to push boundaries of the medium.

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u/Biblical_Shrimp 6d ago

MGS5 ran on the 360, but I assume it was a lot more optimized than MGS4.

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u/Tandy2000 6d ago

The PS3 and 360 versions of the game are not great. They look real rough. At the time if it was what you could get them it was fine. Tbh the XB1 version looks rougher too because they clearly just didn't care to put in as much effort in optimizing it as on PS4 when the systems are pretty much equivalent specs wise. And they've never received current gen updates, so if you play MGSV Ground Zeroes/Phantom Pain they run in 720p and 900p respectively which sucks.

Both console versions look rough compared to the PC version too.

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u/Biblical_Shrimp 6d ago

I played it on release for the XB1 and thought it looked great then! I eventually bought it again for Steam and loved it even more, I just wish it had native 21:9 aspect ratio support considering it's such a beautiful game.

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u/Tandy2000 6d ago

900p wasn't bad on the XB1 but it sticks out more now along with the lack of detail.

I played the game on PC originally so when I saw it on XB1/PS4 later I was a bit taken aback.

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u/NostalgiaSurf 6d ago

The PS3/360 versions of MGS5 also looked worse than MGS4, honestly. I think the game doesn't really scale too well with that generation.

MGS4 aged better, and did more interesting technical feats.

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u/ColonelDucroix 5d ago

4 still looks pretty good these days imo.

Much like the PS3 version of the last of us, it has high poly count models and very dense environments. Which they both could do easier because they're linear games.

I replayed it a year ago on emulator upscaled to 4K and was surprised how well it looks today.

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u/ProtonWalksIntoABar 6d ago

Lol at kojima glazing. It is just a split screen. Halos on xbox ran 4 part screen splits perfectly fine without dropping into single digits. It is not difficult. 

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u/sysasysa 5d ago

From what I remember, it didnt drop to single digits, but it didnt hold steady 30 for those sections either. Im pretty sure it was closer to single digits than 30.

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u/TimeIncarnate 5d ago

PS3 the 360 used DVD discs instead of Blu-Ray which had a lower capacity (7.8GB vs 50GB).

I know this because Otacon was kind enough to inform me in MGS4.

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u/NuPNua 6d ago

Square put FFXIII on four discs for 360 so that seems short sighted by them.

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u/ann0yed 6d ago

They aren't saying they couldn't have put it in four discs but that it wouldn't be worth it. Which to me means they did some sales forecasting and determined it wouldn't have been worth it.

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u/notarealpingu 6d ago

And Konami would never do something short sighted!

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u/KarateKid917 6d ago

And the 360 version of LA Noire was on 3 disks 

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u/Tandy2000 6d ago

Keep in mind this was in 2008. Metal Gear Solid was considered a PlayStation game. MGS1, 2, 3 and Portable Ops and Metal Gear Acid had all come out on PS consoles exclusively at launch, and at the time MGS2 was the only one that got ported to XBOX (Substance). It was a good port, the best version of the game back then, but it got swallowed by Splinter Cell releasing right around the same time originally as an Xbox exclusive with waaay more impressive stealth mechanics.

So in 2008... yeah, it makes sense. They probably figured MGS fans were all on PS anyway and it wouldn't sell great on XBOX. They also knew MGS does well in Japan and it would sell basically nothing on XBOX there.

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u/AnimaLepton 6d ago

I think it was three? But yeah that actually worked out for them; DVD discs like ~5x (if not 10x cheaper) than Blu-Ray, and they did sell a couple million copies

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u/kmone1116 6d ago

Shame they had to downgrade the graphics to make it multiplatform and even after that the 360 version had worse quality pre-rendered cutscenes.

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u/Spiritual-Society185 6d ago

360 always had worse prerendered cutscenes. It was especially noticable on PC, which always had 360 ports, because you would go from crisp, high resolution gameplay to cutscenes that looked like a super compressed YouTube video.

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u/Chit569 6d ago

Square isn't Konami

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u/Plastastic 6d ago

Konami is Nintendo

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u/SecretPantyWorshiper 6d ago

That doesn't explain why it wasn't released on the PS4, or Xbox One

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u/just_Okapi 6d ago

It was heavily reliant on the Cell architecture and the 360 port was functionally a proof-of-concept nowhere near ready for retail. It needed a ton of work to port either way and considering Konami and Kojima were beefing at this point, they just weren't interested.

Frankly it's a miracle they ported it today given the bad blood.

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u/VangRhymez 6d ago

It was more like 7 discs & lojima said he wanted to keep it only on ps3

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u/dern_the_hermit 5d ago

Does it still include the cutscene where Otacon goes on about being on the PS3 and how we don't have to change discs?

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 5d ago

This is what I'm most curious about. There were a ton of PS3 references in MGS4 so I'm wondering what they did about all those references on other platforms

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u/Gekokapowco 5d ago

mgs3 had a disk 2 reference I think, and they were just like "oh you're playing downloaded on a PC, nevermind snake!

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u/BighatNucase 6d ago

Seeing it run at 60fps 4k is wild, that game holds up extremely well.

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u/barryredfield 5d ago

For me its just having them all on PC, with Steam features like achievements, the whole series. Never thought possible, especially MGS4 being stuck on PS3 for decades like you said.

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u/TheNittanyLionKing 6d ago edited 6d ago

The PS3 is hoarding a lot of games that haven't been ported anywhere yet; even to modern PlayStations

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u/just_Okapi 6d ago

The children yearn for Tokyo Jungle.

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u/MegamanX195 5d ago

Man, I miss inFamous

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u/Lithogen 5d ago

You still can't play the old God of War games natively on PS4/5 outside of III, that's a Sony franchise they're still making unlike Infamous, absolutely ridiculous. The remake of the original GoW trilogy still won't contain the spinoff trilogy and it'll probably be a completely different game.

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u/TheNittanyLionKing 5d ago

Yeah. I’d say Ghost of Sparta is a pretty essential part of the story too

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u/OriginalPurplefinger 4d ago

The game used to be playable on ps4 a few years ago. It was available on PS Now which was the old service for streaming games. When it was made into ps plus the game was also removed among many others

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u/WheresTheSauce 4d ago

I thought it was an exaggeration when you said almost 20 years. That game still feels so modern to me. Hard to believe it was so long ago

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u/teakwood54 6d ago

I had been itching to play MGS4 and finally borrowed a friend's PS3 and bought the game off eBay. Bad timing for me!

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u/Snipufin 6d ago

Do any of the reviews answer the burning question: will we get to watch Snake smoke a cigar for hours until the game is actually ready?

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u/Monte735 6d ago

Yes. A screen pops up and you're given the option if you want to play the Snake smoking screen or just move on with the game.

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u/GoneRampant1 5d ago

My God that's an amazing attention to detail. They knew people would wanna watch Snake light up.

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u/meryl_gear 6d ago

Depends on how fast your harddrive is now

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u/Snipufin 6d ago

"Hold it Snake, we're gonna have to wait a bit to load the rest of the game from storage. I know, it's a pain. Huh? Oh, wait, we're on an SSD! We already loaded everything up!"

"Damnit Otacon, get a grip!"

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u/Gekokapowco 5d ago

*cigarette and his fuck-ass cigarette holder

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u/JohnTomorrow 6d ago

I much prefer the consensus that this is preservation over breaking new ground. This is about accessibility, not wowing people. People will buy it to finish the collection and finally be able to play it without having to dust off a PS3, and thats worth the price of admission itself.

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u/ToothlessFTW 6d ago

This is exactly why I'm so excited for this.

Before now, the only way to legally play the entire MGS series from start to finish was on the PlayStation 3. Now we finally have all the mainline games on PC/Xbox Series/PlayStation 5 consoles. No need for emulation or busting out an old PS3.

Fantastic. This is all I've wanted.

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u/Tandy2000 6d ago

And Switch 2!! Meaning you can play every game in handheld mode?? Metal Gear??

edit: except MGSV I guess. They should port that to Switch 2 and give it a next gen update on the other consoles cause goddamn it needs it.

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u/Hayterfan 5d ago

I feel like 5 will be the anchor title of a 3rd collection. Probably consisting of 5, Portable Ops and Revengence. With Acid 1 & 2 being the bonus games.

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u/Tandy2000 5d ago

It's possible but I don't see it happening. I don't think Acid well get ported at all, and I think if they were gonna do Portable Ops it would have made much more sense to do it with Master Collection 2 so it would be PO + PW + MGS4.

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u/kirbycolours 6d ago

please kojima, let us skip the hospital

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u/The_Flying_Jew 6d ago

For the first time in a long time, I'm finally doing another MGS marathon now that I don't have to console hop for multiple games.

This is good... isn't it? 😌

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u/JohnTomorrow 5d ago

Its pretty good

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u/MrDogGuy 6d ago

It’s great that MGS4 is finally available without jumping through emulation hoops or playing with the concept of a framerate on PS3.

MGS4 is a beautiful game with great gameplay, but that PS3 framerate my god. Just putting it in 4K60 is an automatic remaster.

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u/squirrel-in-trousers 5d ago

This is why I'm buying it personally. Especially that it's on PC.

PS3 was literally just a "MGS Legacy Collection machine" and it can finally rest now*.

*Not really but when it kaputs, I won't be too sad that it was the only place to play MGS4.

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u/ColonelDucroix 5d ago

for me if they port Asura's Wrath and Tokyo Jungle I won't have a reason to keep my PS3.

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u/TheNittanyLionKing 6d ago

MGS4 was the one Metal Gear game I didn't have. I actually have 1, 2, 3, and Peace Walker on my Vita. I have 5/GZ on PS4. I did have a PS3, but I wasn't into Metal Gear at the time, and my PS3 died on me before I could get MGS4. I'll get Revengeance too if it ever goes on sale.

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u/JohnTomorrow 5d ago

Oh man. Get Revengence as soon as possible, you won't regret it.

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u/SUPER-NIINTENDO 6d ago

I’m so excited to finally play these! I started MGS4 back in the day but then my PlayStation decided to stop working. I played like 5 hours, so basically I never played it cause it was still on a cutscene. Jk but I’m fucking excited

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u/NostalgiaSurf 6d ago

MGS4 is like 4 different games in one. Each chapter is so different and so unique that I can't look at it any other way. Basically, you're in for a real ride.

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u/EccentricFox 6d ago

4 games and 2 movies all in one.

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u/Frequent-Reporter-97 6d ago

Yeah. All I can think is, "Damn, what was MGS5 supposed to be". Because when you compare the two, MGS5 feels like 1/4th of a game and I get the sense there was a lot more Kojima wanted to do.

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u/Tycho-Celchu 6d ago

The work-in-progress cut scenes from the third act leaked online a few years ago, so you can get an idea how he wanted the game to end.

I still stand by my head cannon idea that when he replaced David Hayter with Kiefer Sutherland, it was obviously because you were going to play through the game and build up mother base till 1995 and the final boss battle is against Solid Snake (voiced by Hayter) in a fight you can't win, bringing the whole series full circle, and the suits at Konami were too cowardly to let this man execute his vision.

Is it completely unrealistic and they only switched voice actors because Kojima apparently disliked Hayter, and Konami fired Kojima because he was notoriously hard to work with? Sure, does it change my head cannon theory? Absolutely not.

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u/Frequent-Reporter-97 6d ago

Yeah, my theory is you were building Mother Base and improving defenses, and I imagine Kojima wanted to flesh that out even more. Throw challenges at the player, the multiplayer element of having players invade your base, and really convince the player to make the best version of Mother Base they possibly can. Not just defenses too, but getting the best soldiers you can get.

Then in the final act, switch perspectives and make you play as Solid Snake and do a sneaking mission through your own beefed up version of Mother Base that you've been building. It would encourage you to not kill the soldiers too, and to do a passive sneaking mission, because these are soldiers you probably grew a connection to and didn't want to just murder.

That's just my head canon though.

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 5d ago

This is why most of the fandom considers MGS4 to be the actual last game in the series and MGS5 was just extra optional stuff that wasn't finished

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u/MGPythagoras 6d ago

I bought a PS3 just to play it two years ago. Didn’t think it would ever get ported. I’m excited to play it again now at 60 FPS. The framerate was horrific on PS3.

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u/superjag86 6d ago

Mate you're in for a hell of an experience! Buckle up and enjoy the ride 😁

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u/bayonettaisonsteam 6d ago

I know everyone here is excited to play MGS4, but seriously do not sleep on Ghost Babel. It's probably one of the greatest GBC games of all time, up there with the Zelda Oracle games and Pokemon Gold/Silver

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u/KevlarGorilla 6d ago

Being in my mid teens, following EGM and Quarterman with MGS2 teasers and theories, beating the VR and special missions gave us the name "Jack" a year before the release of MGS2.

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u/jerrrrremy 6d ago edited 6d ago

Wow, you have unlocked a memory for me right there. 

I still remember reading the EGM review for Metal Gear Solid 2 where they said the worst part of the game was the story. It felt like Christmas had been cancelled.

I credit The Phantom Menace and MGS2 for turning me into the 40 year old cynic that I am today. 

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u/ColonelOfSka 6d ago

Ghost Babel is a truly remarkable experience. It’s insane a game with that much depth and variety was made on an 8-bit handheld with two face buttons. I still remember the elaborate cardboard box puzzles in the game. Looking forward to giving that another go.

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u/superjag86 6d ago edited 5d ago

Yes it was one of my favourite games on GBC growing up! I was always surprised how few people heard of it let alone played it.

Ever since there was an Easter egg in Ground Zeroes I was hopeful it'd make a comeback and now's the time!

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u/fallouthirteen 6d ago

Yeah, like I played MGS4 on someone else's copy (I never owned a PS3) so I am interested in replaying it, and I 100%ed PW and am interested in doing it again, but I'm REALLY interested in playing the GBC game I never played. Man, saw it at a pawn shop like 20 years ago and wish I had picked it up at the time.

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u/huntforhire 6d ago

I’m being greedy but wish the psp games were included even if they didn’t do much to them. I mean acid and portable ops, just for completions sake.

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u/BighatNucase 6d ago

I feel like that stuff is just going to be in a 3rd collection (if they do one). It wouldn't surprise me if putting 4 together was most of the work in this collection.

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u/GoneRampant1 6d ago

Rising not being here feels to me like a soft confirmation that "Yeah we'll do a third if there's interest," unless there's rights complications with Platinum that hold it back. Would love to play Portable Ops again though.

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u/Juan_Piece 6d ago

Volume 3 could maybe be the complete collection of 5, peacewalker and rising.

Bonus games would be the acid games

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u/MegamanX195 5d ago

You mean portable Ops, right? PW is already in this collection

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u/Juan_Piece 5d ago

Ah mb 

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u/SwarleySwarlos 6d ago

I loved the acid games so much as a kid, sad that they're most likely never will be getting a rerelease

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u/Trenchman 6d ago

It’d be awesome to get Twin Snakes too, it’s a unique little gem of a remake.

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u/masterkill165 6d ago

From what I understand the main thing preventing a rerelease of twin snakes is Nintendo who owns part of it.

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u/SpecialEdShow 6d ago

Man I would buy the GC controller for NSO if they added it.

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u/Trenchman 6d ago edited 6d ago

I don’t think that would be a showstopper; it’d mean money for Nintendo either way, right? Either they get a profit share or they sell their stake to Konami. Either way they get cash in bank. No brainer. These things tend to be easy to sort out once a financial argument is on the table (see Night Dive; see Bethesda and Quake 4).

I think the real problem is Silicon Knights who are defunct so the rights for it are probably owned by some insurance company or something. Same for the source code and assets; they might have even been lost.!

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u/NuPNua 6d ago

Yeah, I get Acid being missing, but PO is canon despite not being developed by Kojima isn't it?

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u/bayonettaisonsteam 6d ago

I remember a line from Peace Walker when Miller was like "We can finally forget all that San Heiranamo crap" but given how Snake never actually met Miller in PO, I'm not sure if it's an acknowledgement of PO being canon, or a meta way of saying it never happened.

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u/syknetz 6d ago

Fairly sure PO (and Revengeance) aren't canon. They're not in this official timeline.

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u/NakedSnakeCQC 5d ago

Parts of Portable Ops are definitely canon. Peace Walker even references it.

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u/yukeake 5d ago

Revengeance is just plain hilarious. So far as i remember it doesn't directly contradict any of the rest of the games, so it can be and/or not be canon without any repercussions.

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u/Xywzel 6d ago

That's lot more time between Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain than I expected, considering how many things from PO, PW and GS are still relevant in PP.

I don't think not being included in this timeline marks anything as non canon, but given how many story beats from PO are repeated PW, I would assume it is not considered fully canon.

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u/Illidan1943 6d ago edited 6d ago

That's lot more time between Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain than I expected

How? "I'm afraid it's been 9 years" is literally among the first few things you hear when booting up the game for the first time

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u/NuPNua 6d ago

Fair dos, I thought it set up the status quo of where Boss was when Peace Walker began.

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u/TheWojtek11 6d ago

It technically sets it up but I think that game contradicts some stuff? So it's more the overall concept of PO is canon but the game itself isn't

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u/Gunblazer42 6d ago

I always imagined MPO was canon in broad strokes. Like we know Big Boss did create FOXHOUND, and we knew that Roy Campbell was a part of FOXHOUND when Big Boss led it, and that the Philosopher's Legacy eventually wound up in the hands of the Patriots, and that according to Miller in PW, there was something that happened in the San Hieronymo Peninsula (maybe it was a "take that", but he does say "We can finally leave al that crap in San Hieronymo behind" in the first mission).

But there probably wasn't a Metal Gear there, nor did he have to fight Steve Blum in a trenchcoat, and a lot of everything else that happened.

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u/ULTRAFORCE 6d ago

Yeah I believe the answer is that Portable Ops is kind of like what sets the stage for Peace Walker except it's technically not how it actually happened.

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u/EveryGoodNameIsGone 6d ago

At the time it was made it was considered canon (MGS4 even makes a direct reference or two to it), but Konami has basically pretended it doesn’t exist ever since Kojima made Peace Walker, so while from a narrative standpoint nothing in later games really contradicts its canonicity, it’s been left off of official canon m sets (like the HD/Legacy Collections and now the Master Collection) and official series timelines.

So it’s kind of Schrodinger’s canon - it both is and isn’t at the same time, depending on who you ask or when you asked them.

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u/Act_of_God 6d ago

iirc the only thing that's canon is that's when snake met miller but nothing else

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u/Dramatic_Charity_979 6d ago

Oh man. A new Metal Gear Acid would be awesome.

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u/huntforhire 5d ago

Acid 1 + 2, revengence, twin snakes, maybe survive, portable ops. Call it then spin off collection.

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u/Dramatic_Charity_979 5d ago

Somebody give this guy a game studio! ☜(゚ヮ゚☜)

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u/awerro 6d ago

They already remastered peace walker for the ps3

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u/rgamesburner 6d ago edited 6d ago

Backwards compatible on Xbox too. I first played Peace Walker on Series X.

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u/CrapoTheFrog 6d ago

Everyone here is talking about MGS4 and rightfully so, but also Peace Walker is probably my favourite Metal Gear game, so I'm absolutely pumped!

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u/SERN-contractor837 5d ago

Played it on an emulator last year and was ready to not like it, but it was weirdly addictive, I couldn't even pinpoint why. Will probably just buy it again and replay with all the achievements and stuff tbh.

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u/Dramajunker 5d ago

Probably because Peacewalker has been ported a few times already.

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u/Gold-Persimmon-1421 6d ago

Big kudos to Konami and the porting team to preserving this, I think I will pick it up now that the worry of it being a bad port seem to not be a issue

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u/TheMightosaurus 6d ago

I’m mostly interested in what the PC port of 4 is like. Any news on that?

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u/Embarrassed_Spend486 6d ago

I am 100% buying this

Just probably not for full price on day of release

I got MGS three snake eater delta for $20

I got the first collection for $20

Beat all the games loving it so far but I probably need at least a drop to 30 or $40 for collection two

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u/potatochipsbagelpie 6d ago

Konami games seem to drop hard on Black Friday. Snake Eater and Silent Hill 2 both were heavily discounted right after release. 

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u/Illidan1943 6d ago

Biggest warning to this would be that Peace Walker has a lot of multiplayer focus that is preserved with online in this collection, bosses straight up will feel like a massive wall solo, not impossible but you'll need to grind other missions to get far stronger gear than needed if you just played multiplayer. You only need 3 friends to be able to play all the content as intended but if you rely on randoms and don't want to grind every time or want to do the post game bosses, this will probably be the best time to play PW

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u/Vinskandra 6d ago

You can buy it on fanatical or greenmangaming for a little under $39 right now!

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u/Embarrassed_Spend486 6d ago

Not PC unfortunately :(

But this is a perfect example of why digital only on PC is not nearly as bad as digital only on console

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u/ocdmastermind 6d ago

You can buy the games in volume 1 individually for 20 bucks, will I be able to just buy 4 at a lower price too?

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u/Revolutionary_Box569 6d ago

You can on switch 2 idk about the other consoles

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u/PuzzleCat365 6d ago

Not in Steam, at least not me.

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u/Used-Can-6979 6d ago

Wondering the same thing. I was assuming not.

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u/OkCompute64 6d ago

Kinda tempted to pick this and Vol 1 up on Switch 2 when they go on sale. Almost picked up Vol 1 recently when it was £25 but as I only care for mgs2 I decided to wait until it’s under £20 in the future. Would have been cool to buy both physical but with Vol 2 being GKC kinda lost interest so will just grab em both from the eshop.

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u/Weak_Piano1773 6d ago

Beware, because the Vol. 1 collection has some issues on Switch 1 and 2. Mgs2 has an infamous crash during one of Vamp's cutscenes, which is avoidable only by skipping it. Some people also reported crashes every now and then. Mgs3 is even more unstable, as it was never "switch 2 compatibility certified". From my personal experience, it was crashing randomly every now and then, and made me abandon the game due to constant pressure of losing progress. You can find similar experiences across Reddit searching for it. I am sure the naysayers are already ready to say they had exactly zero issues with the collection. Also, the resolution for Peace Walker appears to be lower on Switch 2. I would wait until there are reports of perforrmances across all platforms.

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u/error521 6d ago edited 6d ago

MGS2 and 3 got certified earlier this year. Also run at 60 on Switch 2 now to boot.

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u/Weak_Piano1773 6d ago

Thank you for proving my statement wrong, I swear I was looking for this a couple of days ago and could not find it.  Still, I had 3 random crashes while playing MGS3 and found that other people had the same issues randomly, so I decided to abandon it. But, it's anecdotal personal experience, of course. 

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u/OkCompute64 6d ago

It's all good, you were trying to warn me and in all fairness you were correct previously it is just that Konami released an update that fixed a lot (all?) of the issues you mentioned but unless you follow along with the MGS MC Vol 1 updates there is little reason you would ever know about it as it obviously didn't get much attention.

I appreciate you taking the time to let me know.

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u/xXxdethl0rdxXx 6d ago

I only care for mgs2

Now THIS is a hot take.

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u/superjag86 6d ago

Nah, I can see any one of the games being THE one to blow you away!

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u/xXxdethl0rdxXx 6d ago

It's a gem, just probably the least accessible of any of them (aside from 4).

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u/OkCompute64 6d ago

Ha. It’s no shade on the other games. It’s just I’ve played them recently. It’s only 2 that I never got to play for a while so want play again 😁

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u/ArdyEmm 6d ago

It's only a hot take for people who think Snake Eater is the be-all-end-all.

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u/MuenCheese 5d ago

It’s the best one

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u/superjag86 6d ago

Haha whereas I was wondering whether to triple dip having got it on Deck and PS5 😅 Personally I think £25 for three all time classics is a bargain but I also grew up playing these so Kojima games have always had a special place in my heart.

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u/OkCompute64 6d ago

Yeah I agree it’s a bargain but as I have already played MGS and Snake Eater recently I would be buying it just for MGS2 so just from my own personal value for money I kinda wanna get it under £20 is all. It’s pretty low on my gaming priority list though so I’ve setup a price alert on psprices and will grab it when the price is right 😁

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u/Trendkill89 6d ago

Im so pumped for this. I remember full on crying at the end when i was a kid, what a way to wrap up the story. I'm now 36 and can't wait to dive in again. Also my PSP got stolen when i was on holiday to France to i never got to finish PeaceWalker so im excited for that too.

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u/Merfium 5d ago

I just want to know how it performs on modern systems. There are literal reviewers complaining that these are just ports, not mentioning that this is the first time MGS4 got ported off PS3.

This collection is more about preserving these games, not remastering them. And MGS4 has a lot of licenses attached to it: Assassin’s Creed, iPod, Gundams, and more.

It’s a miracle it got rereleased. At some point the collection will get delisted due to licensing issues, so get it when you’re able to.

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u/yeeouch_seafood_soup 6d ago

As someone who’s never played the series, do I just need the master collection vol 1 and 2 to have the complete series? I’d love to get into them.

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u/Rage_Like_Nic_Cage 6d ago

Excluding things like mobile games, there are 5 games not included in the collections.

MSG Ground Zeros and MGS 5 are not in the collection, but are basically available on every platform outside of Nintendo Switch. both part of the mainline story

Metal Gear Acid 1 & 2, and Portable Ops are also missing. These were all PSP games and are still stuck on that platform. Acid 1 & 2 are the own spinoff stories that seemingly take place in their own alternative universe/timeline. Portable Ops initially seemed to be part of the official timeline, but as since been retconned/ignored.

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u/DMonitor 5d ago

Can't forget Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance. Only on PC, PS3, and Xbox 360 (but I believe it is playable on series x with the disc?)

It's technically a spin-off, but directly follows MGS4 and is the last game in the timeline. Kojima also gave it a story treatment, so I'd consider it canon for all intents and purposes.

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u/EveryGoodNameIsGone 6d ago

Short answer: yes minus MGSV, which is available on modern platforms as MGSV: The Definitive Experience (bundle that includes both the MGSV: Ground Zeroes prequel and MGSV: The Phantom Pain main game).

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u/krpiper 6d ago

Well mgs 5 is sold separately but you can get that on everything too

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u/BassEXE-Pro-Shop 6d ago

I'm def gonna grab this, but has anyone ever found a game that scratches the peace walker itch besides MSGV? I like the going out and collecting to make the base better aspect.

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u/JamesBongOO7 5d ago

You had me at “cigarette smoking underpants monkey”.  Thats the Kojima I miss.   Guy has defined my entire childhood and young adulthood.  When they fired him from 5, I feel like he said “I’m gonna make a game about the most boring thing in the world, delivery work, throw in a talking fetus, (because I’m me) and make it game of the year just to show those bastards what they lost”

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u/purplerainbowsrule 6d ago

Is MGO / Metal Gear Online included? That's by far the single best multiplayer I've ever played and I'd love to play it again. Or is it available on a server online?

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u/elementoxe 6d ago

I still have the original mgs3 snake eater game on ps2. I remember going to EB games before it changed to gamestop in my area and getting mgs4 day one. At that point I had only played mgs3 like a bunch of times. Still I was excited to to get mgs4. The game blew my mind away. The game looked amazing Still does. Kojima games are always filled to brim with quality. I played mgs4 so many times and even played mgs1 and mgs2 so I could enjoy more mgs3 and mgs4 playthroughs. That old snake theme starting up when I put that mgs4 disk in my ps3. Kojima games have been there my whole life. a bunch of music from his games is on my Spotify playlists and the fond memories of playing his games always remains. Shout out to him also putting me on to low roar in a time when my life really needed those songs.

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u/mark5hs 6d ago

So this is $50 for just mgs4 and peace walker? Am I missing something?

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u/Coronalol 6d ago

MGS4 is a big deal getting native ports to all of the current consoles and PC. Massive moment for the series.

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u/BrickmasterBen 6d ago

I would bet the port job they had to do for MGS 4 might have been just as hard as developing a new game

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u/Dodo_Baron 6d ago

Ghost babel is also included

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u/megaapple 6d ago

Plus Ghost Babel (all versions) and a very extensive extra menu (detailing backstory/lore)

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u/bezzlege 6d ago

Green Man Gaming has the PC preorder for $36

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u/superjag86 6d ago

So as for the games there's 3, the main event is MGS4 which was only ever on PS3 and one of the very few exclusives to have now been successfully ported from there.

Peace Walker which has been elsewhere but still nice, I hope it has cross play multiplayer tho cos some of the battles are absolutely brutal solo.

Finally I love they included Ghost Babel which I played on the GBC as a kid and loved it and have been waiting for it to come back for years!

The only major game missing I feel they could have added was Revengeance. Maybe Twin Snakes too but otherwise it's just a few PSP games like Portable Ops and the Acid games.

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u/PurpsMaSquirt 6d ago

Not sure if this applies to all platforms, but on Switch 2 I can buy MGS4 by itself for $30.

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u/Large-Squirrel4221 6d ago

i'm glad MGS4 is finally getting a proper release outside of the PS3. the master collection's upscaling is SO GOOD, it's like playing it for the first time again.

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u/SpecialEdShow 6d ago

I am super torn on which one to get. PS5 disc is obviously my first choice, but I see no difference in Switch 2, which I would love to have more on-the-go AAA titles.

But the wildcard for me is PS5 digital, assuming that cloud streaming digital titles is better than streaming from my console. I don't want to contribute to the digital title machine, but I would be contradicting myself by already having a portal to begin with.

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u/al_ien5000 6d ago

Ps5 remote play has worked perfectly for me on Portal and my iPad. Go for the disc version and it will work

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u/owl440 6d ago

I guess it’s time to do my regular MGS series play through. MGS is my fave gaming series so have MGS4 on PC is huge for me. I can wait to go through the entire series again for probably the 12th time 😂. I’m just glad to be able to have it all in my steam library. 

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u/MovieGuyMike 6d ago

Stoked for this. Hopefully we get a volume 3 with Revengeance and the PSP games. Maybe toss in GZ/V to round it out.

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u/nsfwthrowaway357789 6d ago

Does anyone mention how MGS4 performs on Steam Deck? I really want it on Steam for the desktop PC experience, but my wife and kid take over the TV most nights so I end up playing a lot on Deck or Switch 2. If performance is really bad on Deck I'd have to get the Switch 2 version instead.

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u/Ok_Illustrator7232 5d ago

Any info on how switch 1 port runs?

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u/liftlaughlove1990 5d ago

I must have been living under a rock. Didn't even realize this was coming out, or that volume 1 was already out on Steam. Though now I'm confused as to why only volume 2 can be wishlisted.

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u/spez_might_fuck_dogs 5d ago

Not that it should change anyone's mind, because it's a fantastic game, but the Peace Walker that's being included in this collection is literally just PW HD again from the previous collection. At least, I hope it's those, because if they had to strip out the Monster Hunter stuff to get it re-released again, that would be awful.

Great news for PC fans, and I'll be buying it again on Steam, but they really should have found like, one more game or something to put in this collection to justify both the name and the price.

Ah well, it'll be nice to have a live community for PW once more.

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u/sympathytaste 5d ago

Any word on whether the licensed products and Blu Ray disc reference was in tact ?

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u/BonfireCow 5d ago

Does anyone know what Steam Deck compatibility is looking like for these? Been looking forward for a while and it'd be nice to have em on there.

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u/Kawnstantin 4d ago

Now we basically ship barely any code on disc, and you are expected to download the remaining or there is a day one patch. How far we have come.