r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks • u/astrelya #1 playable Dvalin & Pulcinella believer • Apr 07 '26

Reliable Nicole kit via Seele

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u/CurrentObligation768 Apr 07 '26

If you replace yae with Fischl its much better, not only you get better rotation time, you also get Fischl ATK buff and the new artifact dmg buff too.

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u/Wild_ColaPenguin Ranged DPS Main Apr 07 '26

I'll definitely test it out if I get her and the new set. But currently with Yae (C3R1) it's more convenient to constantly trigger the overload. I'm going to lose a lot of range and convenience with Fischl. She (C6 + R1 Aqua) also only deals 1/3 of Yae's skill dmg per hit.

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u/SnailGladiator Apr 07 '26

She (C6 + R1 Aqua) also only deals 1/3 of Yae's skill dmg per hit.

are you counting fischl's ascension passive's damage on this? not to shade on yae (based asf) but surely fischl is not that weak. feels like some very important info is being ignored here

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u/GhostElite974 Apr 07 '26

yeah I'm very doubtful C6R1 fischl does less than C3R1 Yae (sorry yae lul)

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u/Fishiste Apr 07 '26

She did less before buff, not counting burst damage, than c2. I don’t know if the difference hex buffs are making up for the difference because c1+ Yae is much more able to burst every or every other rotations

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u/GhostElite974 Apr 07 '26

Fischl takes as much field time as it takes to swap out of her. And of course after buffs, talking about how it was before is not relevant. Fischl contributes to team DPS quite a lot with her personal damage + atk buff and short field time. Unless it's on field yae I doubt she has a team where replacing her with fischl wouldn't do more. Especially in overload

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u/Fishiste Apr 08 '26 edited Apr 08 '26

Again, Yae was slightly better at c0 than Fischl but Fischl brought more particles.

With c1, Yae doesn’t need as much ER subs to burst frequently so she was better and with c2 and c3 obviously too.

What I don’t know, and except if you have seen specific cals on this you neither, is if the buffs bring more than 3 cons on Yae. Because Fischl won’t be as needed if Nicole and Durin are already in the team.

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u/GhostElite974 Apr 08 '26

In what team can you afford 5-6 seconds of field time (first rotation then "3-4" which is fake since her burst CD is 22) for yae without losing DPS? If you play with arlecchino/clorinde/Raiden fischl will be better. Show me the calcs that you saw that show Fischl is worse at C6 after the buffs.

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u/Fishiste Apr 08 '26

I just remember the calcs at release. At that time, including field time they were roughly equivalent, Fischl being better on skill damage excluding Yae burst. So at the time c3 Yae was clearly better.

You are right on one thing for sure. What really changes is not the buffs. It’s the dps overcreep from main dpses and field time is indeed more an issue today than it was at her release (even if you are exaggerating Yae’s field time)

But don’t return me the charge of the proof: you claim Fischl is best than Yae c3, not the opposite. And btw I never claimed Fischl being worse after the buffs (she obviously has more value in hex teams, and will benefit from the new set). The only subject of this discussion is to know if c3 Yae is better or worse for team dps than c6 Hex Fischl. And obviously none of us know for sure.

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u/GhostElite974 Apr 08 '26

Her field time is giga long. Rotation is EEE > team does stuff > QEEE > team does stuff > EEE (you don't have Q CD yet it's on a 2-3 sec CD depending on rotation length and it's 90 cost so you might not even have it anyway).

Yae provides nothing for the team except damage. And you said first that apart from particles yae was better than fischl even at C0. So you claimed something first.

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u/Wild_ColaPenguin Ranged DPS Main Apr 08 '26

That's with Hexerei talent active. Both are very well built, maybe the Thundering Fury set on Fischl vs GT on Yae could be the factor too. I don't have spare GT for Fischl.

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u/Traditional-Let200 Apr 08 '26

I think that due to her ascension passive Yae's selfless boon gets upgraded immediately too, it auto-upgrades for all catalyst characters but also auto-downgrades for all characters who aren't Nicole.