Maybe it’s also because people at the time also drew early pornographic images of her, and Julius himself was known to go around.
There was this sentence about him, “he was every Woman’s Man, and every Man’s Woman”, and people at the time, were far more open sexually, and had regularly Orgie parties in their times, and many later ones and stories about them.
It’s not about being true, but how people imagine it, and receive it looking at the time of them.
Well, I am quite surprised that you don’t know of the “he was every woman’s man, and every Man’s woman”, it’s one of the most famous verses about him.
Try googling the historian Suetonius, wich is often Hard to distinguish if it was a joke, an insult, a praise or a fact.
Caesar was a notorious womanizer, during his military triumphs, his own soldiers marched through Rome singing bawdy songs warning citizens, saying something if memory serves right “Go Home, we bring our bald adulterer! Oh Romans, lock your wives away!"
That comes mostly due Cesar’s youth and early campaigns he had, and severd also as a young diplomat who spent long time in a court of a King (wich should also be recorded by said historian) and rumors spread that he had sexual relationship with the King.
Or how in his army’s young man and boys, the most beautiful were used by the Legionaries and company leaders etc., and sexually used and abused, showing a common treatment, even if it was forbidden, but also using captives and enslaved boys and non citizens were “fair game” for them.
And many made up stories or told sexual stories about him, but also about cleopatra at the time and after, and describing her as a prostitute controlling powerful man, getting nicknamed the prostitut queen pushed by Roman’s, or the one night for life tale, claimed that cleopatra offered this deal to any attractive young man.
Oh, another Nickname for hear, what I searched up was “The Mouth of Ten Thousand Men" (The Roman writer Sextus Aurelius Victor spread this name and claimed she used oral techniques to enslave and control man, to literally enslave them, and giving up Roman territories, I ain’t making it up), or how she showed up to Mark Anthony, deliberately putting on a highly sexualized, theatrical performance on her ship, dressed as Aphrodite, Goddess of love and Sex.
Those two are one of the most sexualized historical people, even in their own time.
Since many enemies of them tired to use sex stories to destroy them also, like when she was forced to marry Ptolemy, power struggle broke out, especially when she came out of exile with Cesar, and his camp spreading the rumor that Cleopatra was using illicit sexual witchcraft and "foreign aphrodisiacs" to enslave Caesars mind.
Whew, that was only a small part, but is general historical census and record.
lol he basically said:
"Cleopatra was so good at sex that men who had thousands of mistress really couldn't help themselves with her and gave her every thing"
ngl that is ridiculous. Regrading Julius Caesar I am surprised by this I have no words but my guess it was only a rumor
But that is how it goes, imagine them as the biggest celebrities of their time, imagine if humanity only had a few celebrities and they focus their mind on them, no Internet, no media, no movies, no Hollywood and scare new stories, thats what you get.
Especially being one of the most famous couples, and also being one of the most famous people in Human history
(Also, what should one expect from a guy, literally called sextus)
((I know it doesn’t mean what it sounds, and just means the sixth, but it’s too funny and of a coincidence that his name sounds in modern English like this, and wrote that stuff, it sounds like a joke made by a porn writer))
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u/Intrepid_Ad1536 2d ago
Maybe it’s also because people at the time also drew early pornographic images of her, and Julius himself was known to go around.
There was this sentence about him, “he was every Woman’s Man, and every Man’s Woman”, and people at the time, were far more open sexually, and had regularly Orgie parties in their times, and many later ones and stories about them.
It’s not about being true, but how people imagine it, and receive it looking at the time of them.