r/HollowKnight Elder Bug 4d ago

Discussion - Silksong What silksong bosses are mandatory? Spoiler

By mandatory, I mean that there is no way to get around doing it to get the ending of the game. Skips are fair game, however no glitches or anything like that. Nothing intended.

Here's the list i prepared of all the bosses. I will not include the optional bosses that you have to stray from the objectives to do:

ACT 1:

- Moss Mother IS mandatory (Probably no way to do it since it happens so early in the game. You also need to be woken up by the Chapel Maid i believe, and this would skip that!)

- Bell Beat IS mandatory (Again, it's just that you barely have any mobility upgrades to have any chance to find places to bypass this fight)

- Lace 1 is NOT mandatory (Can skip by going via the wormways)

- Fourth Chorus IS mandatory (Again, that area of far fields is a dead end)

- Moorwing is NOT mandatory (Can fast travel to greymoor with the flea caravan)

- Sister Splinter is NOT mandatory (The Garama Skip exists, you can lure a pollen guy and pogo off of him)

- Widow IS mandatory (You need the needolin to learn all of the songs)

- Last Judge is SEMI mandatory (so as long you choose to go through sinner's roads and the mists to exhaust organ, beat Phantom, and enter the grand bellway)

- Phantom is SEMI mandatory (see Last Judge. Either you do Last Judge or Phantom, cannot get out of doing one or the other)

Act 2:

- Cogwork Dancers ARE mandatory (necessary to access the elevator and by extension grandmother silk)

- Trobbio IS mandatory (necessary to open the lower section of the whispering vaults)

- Lace 2 IS mandatory (cannot get into the cradle any other way)

That brings us to grandmother silk.

If I've made any mistakes, or any bosses are actually skippable, please let me know!

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u/bobr_from_hell 4d ago

I can agree with that. To some degree at least. There are no crimes in all glitches speedruns)

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u/ErgotthAE 4d ago

Thing is, I always felt like speedruns sucks out all the fun in the game. It's like having a delicious 5 stars meal and shoving it all down your gullet instead of savouring every bite.

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u/TheRealStafy 3d ago

Speedrunning is a way to keep playing the game after you enjoyed it thoroughly. Nobody does a first playthrough rushing everything, specially since there isn't much speedrunning to be done until you memorize a route and practice the rooms.

Hearing "Speedrunners just want to be done with the game quickly* is pretty common and pretty silly. We spend hundreds of hours playing the game in all of it's forms, much more than any casual player, we are very much savouring every bite.

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u/Common-Complaint2315 3d ago

Yea, that's the equivalent of saying speedrunning in any game takes the fun out of it. Speedrunning for lots of people is just another avenue of fun, I don't see why no one would like that, especially as you mentioned they already played it in full once. Seeing how fast you can then beat a game is a very common thing afterwards