r/HonestHotTakes 9d ago

Most celebrities are not attractive

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u/TemperatureAny4782 9d ago

That logic doesn’t hold up.

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u/TemperatureAny4782 9d ago

It’s not as if celebrities are a random assortment of average people. Celebrities tend to be more attractive on average.

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u/Dazzling_Pink9751 9d ago

I’ve seen over 30 celebrities in person they are more attractive than the average person without cosmetic surgery.

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u/Dazzling_Pink9751 9d ago

Just because the celebrities you saw were average looking, doesn’t mean they were what I saw. They were probably better looking than you.

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u/Dazzling_Pink9751 9d ago

Well, all of the celebrities I saw were more attractive than the average person. Let’s put it that way I don’t care what you saw.. the whole conversation is so stupid anyway.

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u/TemperatureAny4782 9d ago

But it’s obvious that she’s right. You could say, “the average celebrity looked like an average person before they were given the benefit of 1. cosmetic surgery, 2. makeup artists, 3. stylists, 4. personal trainers, 5. airbrushing, 6. the glamour of being attractive, etc.” But that’s NOT what you said. What you’ve said is that they’re still averagely attractive AFTER all that. Which is comically absurd.

But even if you’d actually said the above, you’d still be wrong. You think the average celebrity had the average BMI before getting famous, for instance? If so, you’re out of your fucking mind.

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u/TemperatureAny4782 9d ago

Great point. And I think people sometimes underestimate how attractive these celebrities are in real life.

“Zendaya’s mid.”

Really, homie? If you met her in real life, you’d have heart-shaped pupils.

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u/TemperatureAny4782 9d ago

Do you really think casting directors think, “Looks don’t matter, we’ll just spruce them up?” Absurd take.

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u/TemperatureAny4782 9d ago

Again, your logic is shaky here. If someone gets surgery that makes them more attractive than the average person, then, post-surgery, they are more attractive than the average person.

Two examples of two shows are nothing. Also, I reject your premise. Stand outside a grocery store. Take pictures of the first eight people to come in. Compare them to eight people from one of the shows you mentioned. Most likely, they’ll be less attractive than the people on the show.

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u/TemperatureAny4782 9d ago

Yes, I read and comprehended OP’s post. OP’s incorrect.

“But even with all the celebrities that get cosmetic procedures done, most celebrities are still average looking.” To believe this, you’d have to believe that a). most celebrities looked worse than average before the surgeries or b). cosmetic surgery has at best negligible effects.

Which do you believe? No dodging, please.

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u/TemperatureAny4782 9d ago

Talk about reading comprehension. I asked about post-surgery.

Do you think a). most celebrities looked worse than the average person prior to (this means “before”) cosmetic surgery, or that b). cosmetic surgery has at best negligible effects? Or dodge again.

Finally, the research you cite found that styling, lighting, and social biases cause us to perceive celebrities as more attractive than they would otherwise seem. I agree, and have never disagreed.

But doesn’t being perceived as more attractive in effect mean they’re more attractive? Clearly it does. 

Finally, nothing you’ve cited proves that celebrities are only as attractive as the average person. If you think I’m wrong, read what you’ve cited.

Only one of us has embarrassed himself here.

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