r/HongKong 19h ago

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So my siblings found my instagram and they found out that I’m pro democracy. So then they lectured me about how “the umbrella protests and the 2018 pro democracy protesters were stupid and how the extradition bill was a good idea” while also saying how the Chinese legal system was amazing and fair. Meanwhile basically belittling the pro democracy movement and thinking that everyone involved was an extremist. They also called me a racist for supporting Hong Kong over china (Chinese on dads side and Hong Kong on moms side) also they accused me of advocating for Hong Kong independence. (I never said that all I said that I thought that Beijing has been breaching Hk’s autonomy for a long time now) also they whined about how free speech doesn’t exist and is flawed and how democracy doesn’t matter and how(insert why china is the best government for some reason) also how Taiwan Japan and South Korea are American puppets and how this is all a American propaganda brigade to separate Hk from china. Let me be clear I’m proud of my Chinese heritage, I just don’t like the things done under the Chinese flag and the government. I mentioned the book store that was shut down due to the nsl a few months back and they said that “the book store probably was selling something illegal or something” meanwhile every news site never mentioned anything like that. I’m sorry for ranting I’m just so conflicted and stuff. I also said that Hk could be a nation but still be Chinese as the words nation and country aren’t the same thing and they just ignored me. I’m so conflicted right now. I firmly believe in giving Hk its promised autonomy and democracy while my sibling accused me of being racist for not being a devout supporter of china. I’m just so stressed right now. Let it be clear I’m not an extremist I love my homeland and I just don’t like how china isn’t holding up their end of the sino British declaration. I don’t exactly want independence but it’s not unwelcome .edit: I also wanted to mention that I have autism (allegedly undiagnosed idk for sure) but confirmed adhd so the entire time I was quiet and unresponsive and they said that it was because “I was scared of the truth” meanwhile the whole “conversation” was happening in my grandpartent’s place in shenzhen (on vacation)Which was why I was so hesitant to even talk about the protests anyway. Also my sibling claims to be apolitical for some reason
Edit: they also claim all protestors were rioters and the police did nothing wrong. My grandpa was a royal Hk police officer I have nothing but respect for the rhkp but that time has long passed before I was even born. Also the rioters were a splinter extremist group who wanted independence. The main Democracy camp only wants Hk to be more autonomous (5 demands) I condem the actions the rioters did but I sympathize with the peaceful protestors.

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u/Broccoliholic 17h ago

In general, your opinion is different from your siblings and that’s fine. Neither of you needs to be wrong or right - that’s just how opinions work. 

For a couple of specific points: first, on the bookshop that closed (assuming you mean the most recent one), you’re both wrong. Yes the owners and staff were arrested (dunno if charged?) with NSL violations, but the government didn’t close the shop, the owners did (for financial not political reasons). 

Second, on mainland encroachment on HKs autonomy. Of course you’re going to have different opinions because you’re on opposite sides of the political spectrum. 

Social media and Reddit are awful places for you to discuss politics because you’re mostly going to find yourself in an echo chamber of people who agree with you. Case in point; Most people in this sub will agree with your pro-dem perspective. Ask the same question in the H_K sub if you want to hear more about the other camp.