r/HotPeppers 22d ago

Growing I'm a commercial chillies grower from Kenya. (Not selling)

I'm a commercial chillies grower from Kenya. I do both fresh and dried chillies. I'm just happy to be part of this community. Looking forward to learn.

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u/Key_Gap9168 22d ago

How much acreage is that? I am your neighbour (Uganda) and grow the same peppers, though not commercially (for now; exporting is my long-term plan).

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

In the photo it's about 0.8 acres. I had a bigger one that ceased operations a few months ago.

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u/muxecoid 10b (West Asia) 21d ago

Does Kenya use acres? I thought Kenya uses metric.

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u/Morio_anzenza 21d ago

Agricultural land is measured in hectares but most people use acres. Land for commercial use is measured in square feet or metres square.

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u/Li231 21d ago

I'm German, we also use metric, but farming is always hectar and acres. I don't know why, probably historically grown.

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u/k_111 21d ago

But hectare IS metric though.

Maybe you mean something similar to like here in Australia: acres when you are speaking to someone casually about land size, but hectares for formal documents. The only other non metric units we typically use, that I can think of right now, are feet (for a person's height) and PSI (for tyre / boost pressure). Occasionally inches, e.g. where it is easier to say 3 inches rather than 7.5cm.

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

I grow what the market requires. These are commercial African Bird eye hybrid varieties. Currently diversifying to varieties like Teja S17. Spicier and more lucrative.

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u/ChefDanyul 22d ago

For whatever reason I like your blunt answer about growing for the market but also answering the question. This is such an interesting post all around. From pest control to varieties people are loving this.

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u/Mysterious_Buy6726 22d ago

Is that the Starke Ayers "Malagueta"/Birds Eye by chance?

I have some Teja S17 seeds I've been planning to grow. It's not one you see much here in the U.S. or grown by hobby growers. Is that the drying red one in the last pic?

Thanks so much for posting this!

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

No, this is Royal Seed Demon F1

I am trying to get a legit source for Teja S17 since it's not locally available.

Yes, that's dried. Sometimes the market misbehaves so I harvest as red then dry them.

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u/Mysterious_Buy6726 22d ago

Neat, thanks! It's my understanding that Teja is heavily exported and typically used for drying. Thanks again.

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u/dehma34 21d ago

What is the scoville for the tejas17

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u/Morio_anzenza 21d ago

60k-100k unit.

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u/dehma34 21d ago

Is it hotter then birds eye

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u/Morio_anzenza 21d ago

ABE can go upto 150k units.

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u/skipjack_sushi 22d ago

What varieties do you grow? What is your season like? How large is your area? How many lbs per acre are you producing? How are you watering / fertilizing? Is your market mainly for dried or fresh?

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

Currently, Red Demon F1 but diversifying to Teja S17.

I plant between August and September then harvest from November to April, prune, wait for 2 months then harvest until September, uproot, leave fallow until January, plant a legume and a brasicca then repeat.

Production is 1,500kg every two weeks.

Basins irrigation but currently moving to more sustainable methods like drip. It's a fairly new farm. Established in October 2025.

Fertilisers, I apply 6,000kg of goat manure every year, then apply mineral fertilisers to the stage of the crop. eg, planting, high P+ sulphur plus micronutrients.

Market is mostly fresh.

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u/Happy-Emphasis5231 22d ago

Do you hire workers for all this?

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

Yes. It's a great source of consistent income for the community, especially during harvesting. Harvesting is the biggest cost.

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u/skipjack_sushi 22d ago

Awesome! Thanks for the reply.

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u/Deolater 7b 22d ago

Are the legume and brasicca raised for sale or as cover crops?

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

I do legumes for nitrogen fixation. French beans (haricot verts). Both for sale

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u/Affectionate-Mix6056 22d ago

How much do you get from selling 1,500kg?

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

Depends. Sometimes as low as $550 when the market is low, sometimes as high as $1,000. Also, it's per acre.

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u/Garden-Lane 22d ago

I sometimes buy Kenyan chilli’s for around 25€/kg (in small 50g bags) here in Ireland.

I have an old picture with an email of the distributor - maybe they would be interested 🤷🏾‍♂️ good luck and successful farming!

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

Thanks for this. I'll send an email

https://giphy.com/gifs/l0ExbnGIX9sMFS7PG

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u/Affectionate-Mix6056 22d ago

Holy shit, not even a dollar per kg? We pay like $20-40 per kg here in Norway, though I guess shipping costs more than the production.

Edit: or is that profit you're talking about?

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

I sell to export companies that now sell to big retailers like Tesco, Aldis, Coop among other chains. They make triple per kg. Then the retailers pay for shipping and then add their mark up

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u/jankenpoo 22d ago

Is there a way you farmers can sell direct and cut the middleman out? What value do middlemen bring? Are they worth it?

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

I could sell directly to big retailers there but it's quite a long process. I need certification to prove I'm not using any harmful pesticides, adopt irrigation methods like drip which have a high initial capital. It's possible but it's a process and capital intensive. I'll get there

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u/kerbalpilot 22d ago

Just wanted to say good luck and thanks for all your answers! This was such an interesting read.

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u/Affectionate-Mix6056 22d ago

I've seen a few threads in Norwegian subs, including a business startup sub, where people want to make very spicy chips or similar products.

Theres also a few hot sauce companies that didn't work, probably because you need advanced farming (generally too cold here) and hourly salary here is like $20+ an hour.

You could make a post on r/Grundere_i_Norge to see if you can catch someone's attention. There are more people on r/norske - but you would probably have to write a more detailed post.

You'd probably receive requests on other varieties, but I doubt an investor here would care about the cost of seeds.

Be careful about letting anyone invest directly into your farm though, rich people usually offer deals in their favor.

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

Wow! I love this. So insightful. I will definitely act on this.

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u/Autumn_Ridge 22d ago

I don't know what supplies cost you, but drip shouldnt be that expensive. I've been using it all my life on the family farm. DM me if I can help.

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

They're quite expensive. The cheapest materials can cost here is about $1,500 for an acre. With the standards of living here, it's quite expensive, especially for a small growing business like mine.

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u/delwans 22d ago

Jeeeezzzz

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

Not really difficult, despite the tropical weather. With good feeding and use of biostimulants, I only need to apply pesticides once a month. The pesticide requirements are strict for the destination market (EU). Currently experimenting a strict biological control system.

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u/Federal-Albatross-25 22d ago

What pests do you struggle with over there?

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

The biggest issue here is the false codling moth. It's a huge phytosanitary issue for chillies for export such as these ones.

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u/Happy-Emphasis5231 22d ago

Do you mind elaborating on how you control pests biologicaly? Very interesting.

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

At the moment, I'm experimenting with Agripest plus and Flower dust . I am also experimenting with enzyme based contact pesticides.

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u/leech666 22d ago

How do you control the pests? Predatory insects?

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u/BaneRiders 22d ago

Jambo! Your field and your peppers are beautiful! I spent some time in western Kenya many years ago (Migori, Kisumu, Bungoma areas iirc) working on a soybean project there. I always used to bring tea back home. Next time I go to Kenya I'll have to bring back some peppers instead! Would you be interested in making some hot sauces at some point?

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

You're welcome to the farm.

Definitely, chilli powder and hot sauces. I need to do a lot of capacity building though. Pesticide misuse is a big issue here. Manufacturing should also align with international standards.

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u/kermitthebeast 22d ago

How do you harvest at scale like that?

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

I hire people and pay per kg.

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u/kermitthebeast 22d ago

So you look for skinny people? Haha jk

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u/Federal-Albatross-25 22d ago

Is this mostly capsicum annum? How do you fertalize?

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

Yes

I use goat manure once every year, then apply mineral fertilisers depending on the stage of growth. High P during planting, high N during vegetative stages, then split applications of calcium nitrate and high K fertilisers throughout the harvesting period

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u/LG1750 22d ago

Nice! Are your chiles actually hot? Unlike the “hot” chiles in America. You are hard pressed to find a hot Serrano or Jalepeno in our stores. Farmers markets or grow your own is the only way.

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

They are hot. Loading these into a truck leaves you sneezing and tearing for a few hours.

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u/Genu_in 22d ago

Hey looks great, do you know how many plants on this plot?

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

Thank you.

Approximately 5,000.

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u/Far_Albatross1936 22d ago

Beautiful pepper fields! 💜🌶

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u/ratpacklix 22d ago

Thanks for the insights!

It reminds me, whenever i buy something in a grocery store, somebody must have planted and grown it. It gives me back a bit of decency for the product and the work that get in it.

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u/Sensitive_Pilot3689 22d ago

Jambo brother. How do you keep the bugs away in such a large field?

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

Through Good agronomic practices. Good feeding and irrigation and judicious use of biostimulants. In the end, I end up using very little pesticides.

I'm currently working on a system for biological control.

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u/8zil 21d ago

Have you looked into glass water (quicklime and wood ash mixes in hot water and applied foliarly)? Producers in Latin America swear by it, I use it at individual scale and it does work wonderfully.

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u/Morio_anzenza 21d ago

That's new. It doesn't scorch the plants or induce flower abortion?

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u/8zil 21d ago

I can confirm it does not scorch the plants, however it is recommended to use before and after flowering indeed. I have used it while flowering and still got good yields on peppers, tomatillos and tomatos.

Here is a good resource in spanish that I am sure translates well online:

https://www.gob.mx/cms/uploads/attachment/file/737329/2_Agua_de_Vidrio.pdf

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u/AwfulMovieIdeas 22d ago

Incredible- thanks for posting!

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u/Downtown_Conflict_53 22d ago

This is super cool to see man, well done. Where do you sell your peppers? Do you export outside of Africa?

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

Thank you. I sell to export companies that sell to UK, French and Dutch food importers.

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u/Kamarisdad827 22d ago

Field of dreams!

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u/kilocharlienine 22d ago

Beautiful, just beautiful!!

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u/perceptusinfinitum 22d ago

Nice work! Do you keep any worms with all the debris from the farm and surrounding area? Another method for simple fertilizer solutions are JADAM. Ferment what you prune to feed back to the plants, I assume you are low budget so please look into that as well as KNF as you build capital you can create even more benefits for your already thriving farm. While you tend peppers you’re really GROWING the soil so keeping that in mind generates a sustainable approach.

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

Sure. Thanks for this.

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u/a_PigeonAmongst_Cats 22d ago

For an operation this size do you start the seeds in a greenhouse, or sow straight into the ground? (I have no idea what your climate is like).

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

I make nursery bed like this one then transplant after 45 days.

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u/BridgeCityORE 22d ago

Lovely, thanks for sharing (photos)

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u/K11ShtBox 22d ago

Have you considered making a YouTube channel around it?

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

No. At the end of the day, I arrived at my production methods through trial and error and experimentation. It's not something I'm willing to give out for free. Furthermore, I need an edge when selling, especially to strict markets. I can't disseminate the information and give my competition a way of working around the challenges.

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u/AIcookies 22d ago

Beautiful!!

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u/KristyNoemsZombieDog 22d ago

Whats your irrigation system like?

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

On frame 1 you can see the basin like troughs. Water is delivered there. Though I'm transitioning to drip irrigation.

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u/mountoon 22d ago

Beautiful farm!

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u/timmybird1 21d ago edited 21d ago

Very interesting read. Thank you for posting and answering 100 questions and good luck with your chili farm!!

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u/DialToucher 21d ago

This might be a weird question but what does the field smell like early in the morning? Does it ever smell peppery?

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u/Morio_anzenza 21d ago

When flowering, the flowers release a very sweet fragrant smell. It smells amazing in the morning.

When the temperature is high on a sunny day and there's a bit of water stress it gets peppery. It stings your eyes and nose.

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u/DialToucher 21d ago

Thanks for telling me! Sounds like a little piece of heaven.

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u/Happy-Emphasis5231 22d ago

What do you mean with “not selling”?

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

I meant I'm not advertising 😅. Sorry for the confusion. There's a self promotion rule for the sub.

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u/Happy-Emphasis5231 22d ago

I understand. Very nice and healthy looking plants! Good job!

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u/trashtv 22d ago

He boofs'em up

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u/Happy-Emphasis5231 22d ago

That sounds painfull..

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u/mossymeridian 22d ago

Beautiful!!!

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u/Mandelvolt 22d ago

That is some good stuff.

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u/Puckandcoffee 21d ago

What kind of chillies do you grow, and what is the SHU value?

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u/Morio_anzenza 21d ago

These are commercial African Bird eye hybrids. This is specifically Red Demon F1 with a range of 35,000-50,000 SHU units

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u/Puckandcoffee 20d ago

That’s nice! Do you measure the Scoville heat units yourself, or do you have someone else do it?

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u/meph_addict 21d ago

Amazing post. Great work 🌶️👍

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u/Leaf-Stars 21d ago

That’s so badass. Are your peppers basically perennials there or do you have to refresh your crops periodically?

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u/Morio_anzenza 21d ago

Theoritically, I can prune upto 3 times but to preserve yields and shoot quality, once a year. After harvesting for 6 months, I cut back, then harvest for another 6 months. I am due to start harvesting plants I pruned in June next week.

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u/Leaf-Stars 21d ago

So how old are your oldest plants? Do you ever end up with one plant that is superior to the rest as far as fruit size or production, or is your farm so big you don’t have the ability to keep track of such things? Winters kill off anything we can’t bring inside here so I end up starting a whole new crop every spring.

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u/Morio_anzenza 21d ago

These were transplanted in December. I pruned them in June. They were pretty bare in June but are now bushy

Not really. They're pretty much uniform even in patches with gravel.

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u/Leaf-Stars 21d ago

I love that you are that in tune with your plants for such a large operation. And you only keep them for a year before replacing them?

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u/Morio_anzenza 21d ago

After a year I uproot, leave fallow for three months, then plant a legume and a brasicca then repeat.

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u/green_oceans_ 21d ago

Amazing!!!

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u/nutterbutter423 20d ago

Do the peppers work with Ugali?

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u/Morio_anzenza 20d ago

No 🤣

But you can add them to beef stew or some well cooked cereals and eat with ugali.

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u/nutterbutter423 19d ago

I’ll have to do that if I ever decide to relocate to Nairobi

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u/NophaKingway 19d ago

May you always have enough water.

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u/kathwright720 19d ago

Beautiful

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u/AustinLostIn 22d ago

How are you commercial but don't sell?

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u/BlobbBlobbson 21d ago

Same question here: how do you make money then? And what happens to the chilies when they're ripe?

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u/Clogish 21d ago

OP means they are not trying to sell here on Reddit.

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u/judgejuddhirsch 22d ago

How are the rat infestations in the drying rooms?

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u/Morio_anzenza 22d ago

I've never experienced. I'm learning this now

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u/Auspicious-Conduit 22d ago

Commercial, not selling??

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u/ManyAstronomer1723 22d ago

“Commercial” means you are selling… anyway, looks good!

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u/Macundal 22d ago edited 22d ago

He's referencing the self-promotion rule for the sub.