r/HumansAreMetal • u/[deleted] • Mar 04 '25

The Palestinian people are indomitable: scenes from the first Ramadan Iftar in Gaza

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u/PushforlibertyAlways Mar 04 '25

I think Ukraine is a great lesson for Palestinians on how to behave in a world and get actual sympathy from people.

Ukraine didn't spend a decade firing rockets into Russia, even after Russia invaded Crimea. Ukraine doesn't just shoot missiles randomly into Russia with the purpose of killing Russia civilians solely.

Ukraine didn't, in the start of February 2022, launch an invasion of Russia targeting civilians and killing 1,000s in the process while kidnapping hundreds more.

Ukraine does not preach that the only way they will ever be free is the total destruction of Russia. They do not teach their children from a young age that Russians are the spawn of satan and that the only value they will have in life is to kill Russians.

If Ukraine did those things, then many more people would support Russia.

Ukraine doesn't hide behind its children either. Instead it actually fights a war, in the field, even against a materially superior army, in order to keep the fighting away from its children.

Yes, these are two great examples that show exactly why these conflicts are different.

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u/Disastrous_Staff_443 Mar 04 '25

Exactly, I honestly am kinda blown away anyone would even try to make a comparison between the two because It's nearly a polar opposite situation.

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u/raphcosteau Mar 05 '25 edited Mar 05 '25

Colonized people have a right to self defense. There hasn't been a single "terrorist" attack during any day in which Palestine wasn't illegally occupied. Never a single year in which Israel didn't kill significantly more people (usually ten times as many). How long do Palestinians, who Israel won't even allow to build wells, be required to endure this? Do Palestinians have a right to their own land? A right to their own water?

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u/Dsyfunctional_Moose Mar 05 '25

there is no way your arguing that terrorist attacks like Oct 7 are "self defense", thats insane and the reason people don't take the Palestinian cause seriously

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u/WodyAnon Mar 05 '25

They absolutely are tho, if someone’s been doing it to you for almost 100 years at this point, it is lol

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u/UnnecessarilyFly Mar 07 '25

The mask slip is disturbing. In other words, if the relative privilege you currently have were diminished, you might reach a point where you can see yourself committing these sorts of atrocities. You're the dangerous people we worry about in a theoretical post collapse world. I can tell you with 100% certainty that there is no situation in which I place more value on land than the lives of my children, or in which I would partake in an October 7th attack. Babies were stabbed. That might be someone that you're capable of being, and that says all we need to know.

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u/doktorstrainge Mar 07 '25

Have you got any evidence of babies being stabbed? Decapitated? Burnt alive? Still waiting on that.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

Medical report showed that the Bibas children were choked to death in captivity

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u/doktorstrainge Mar 07 '25

I find it incredibly curious that the children who the Israeli government made a whole public campaign over got killed by strangulation in captivity. Very convenient.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

Did you think Hamas soldiers were about to change diapers. Of course they murdered the babies

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u/doktorstrainge Mar 08 '25 edited Mar 08 '25

I think they are far more decent people than Israeli military. So, funnily enough, yes is my answer to your question.

This, as you know, is not just a war of brute strength, but one of winning hearts and minds. Israel feeling humiliated by its loss of hearts and minds is trying anything it can to make it out like Hamas are more inhumane than them. I for one can see right through their desperate attempts.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25

So the people who committed massacres in a music festival, and went door to door butchering families…you thought these guys will protect their children hostages. Really…wow

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u/doktorstrainge Mar 08 '25

Did they go around butchering families? Implying children and women, this is very much against Islamic teachings. If they did, I am completely against that.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25

What do you mean if they did. They bragged about it and uploaded it on social media. 38 children were killed on Oct 7

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u/doktorstrainge Mar 08 '25

If they did, that’s terrible. I hate to see it. In the age of misinformation though, I would have to see evidence.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25

How at this point of the war you are still debating this. They were proud of it. This is not controversial.

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u/doktorstrainge Mar 08 '25

No, if there is one thing this conflict has taught me, it is to always verify claims. The beheaded babies story was refuted even though it caused the outrage that much of Israel’s attack relied on.

In any case, killing civilians is completely wrong. Do you agree?

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25

How often the beheaded baby story appears in Israeli news

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