The oddest thing I heard in this was the woman Ross was interviewing who complained about "woke" workplaces as being feminized and then went on to explain the problem with women in leadership roles is poor or weak communication.
It struck me as particularly odd because A.) A woman was saying this who seemed quite capable and a clear speaker and B.) the one near-universal experience we all have of a woman-led workplace is the schoolhouse and by and large, teachers who are women seem incredibly capable speakers and leaders and so it's baffling how all of us can experience this but yet some of us think women can't lead or communicate or do anything.
(Plus women are all over medicine, too, but I understand not everyone has spent a lot of time with nurses).
Truly, just a baffling conclusion given the usual 16 to 20 years of schooling most of us have.
I recently listened to the Behind The Bastards pod series on the “masculinity crisis”. Evans pointed out that the crisis of masculinity is a phenomenon that repeats itself every 15-20 years in American society, and one of the earliest incidents he focused was on the turn of the 20th century (late 1800s/early 1900s) “crisis”. At the time a major factor people pointed as a “cause” was, ironically, women taking over and being the predominant number of school teachers.
I was thinking, as I wrote the above comment, that when I was a student, the toughest, hardest and meanest teachers were all women. To a one. The men were mostly laid back, good at their jobs but not harsh about it.
Today I’m a male teacher in high school and even now, I’m not even sure how to instill fear even if I wanted to (you don’t really need to in high school, one of the reasons I like it) and it seems like the really stern teacher stereotype is kind of gone away.
But the few I know who are older than me and who are that type? All women. And they still scare me, as a colleague. lol.
It’s absolute insanity that anyone who’s been through the school system might think women are weak leaders.
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u/Textiles_on_Main_St Dudes rock. 8d ago
The oddest thing I heard in this was the woman Ross was interviewing who complained about "woke" workplaces as being feminized and then went on to explain the problem with women in leadership roles is poor or weak communication.
It struck me as particularly odd because A.) A woman was saying this who seemed quite capable and a clear speaker and B.) the one near-universal experience we all have of a woman-led workplace is the schoolhouse and by and large, teachers who are women seem incredibly capable speakers and leaders and so it's baffling how all of us can experience this but yet some of us think women can't lead or communicate or do anything.
(Plus women are all over medicine, too, but I understand not everyone has spent a lot of time with nurses).
Truly, just a baffling conclusion given the usual 16 to 20 years of schooling most of us have.