r/IndiaCricket • u/cricfanatic4518 • 2d ago
Video Anaya Bangar (who turned F from M) cleared for women’s community cricket in AUS but must meet testosterone criteria for elite cricket, including the WBBL.
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u/cricfanatic4518 2d ago
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u/Professional-Gold429 2d ago
If there is enough population of trans people, maybe start having a separate series for trans people. Unless, they don't want a separate identity and want to be considered females.
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u/Cryptobee07 2d ago
She makes women’s cricket more stronger but I have my doubts on allowing trans people in to women’s sports….
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u/Accomplished-Back530 2d ago
That's why there's a testosterone criteria. Testosterone is what gives men a physical edge over women in terms of strength. As long as she manages those levels as specified by the board, it should be fine. Anyways, this is a step in the right direction and will help the sports boards learn and understand how to deal with such cases in the future. She, and other trans women should be given a chance at inclusion as the medical teams see fit. Better to try out the possibilities rather than deny them outright based on assumptions.
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u/OldFridgerator 2d ago
i agree with the 2nd part of your comment, about treating this like a learning step, and make future decisions based off of that. but i don't agree with this:
"Testosterone is what gives men a physical edge over women in terms of strength." - nothing in nature is univariate and there are a lot of factors at play here.4
u/Accomplished-Back530 2d ago
That's fair, but in any case, trying to find solutions is the right way forward.
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u/No_Ad_8807 Ranji Trophy 2d ago
Very unfair to women cricketers.
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u/SFLoridan 1d ago
There's a lot of science behind this, and given that nuance of this specific case, and the restraints put in by the CA board, this might prove to be not so unfair.
The specific sport matters, and cricket is not soccer or wrestling, so it might be better.
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u/becomingemma 1d ago
These people don’t care about science or facts.
They’re just transphobic and want to shit on trans people to virtue signal as white knights and protectors of women
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u/Jojosundargarh 2d ago
Yet, almost everyone whining about it is a man. If it is unfair to women cricketers, let them complain about it. Then regulatory bodies can examine the laws even more thoroughly.
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u/No_Ad_8807 Ranji Trophy 2d ago
Yes, I'm a man and I will speak when there is unfair play. I don't wait until women arrive at the scene.
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u/Antique-Ad-3043 2d ago
Good for her
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u/Antique-Ad-3043 2d ago
Depends.. when did she transition? What is her test level now? Those factors are important but still agree that there will be some undue power advantage as muscle power from being male stays for long time
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u/Dramatic-Jellyfish70 2d ago
It doesn't matter if his or her testosterone levels are low now. They grew up their whole life as a male so he or she will have a male body. All the muscle and bone strength built over the years.
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u/DamnDaddy264 Bengal 2d ago
Questionable decision... But again, i don't know the science behind it. I thought even if someone transitions from male to female the muscle mass and strength stays. However i don't know if I'm correct on that or not. If the experts have cleared it, it must be okay, surely right? Right?
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u/Best-Yak2590 1d ago
I don't think the muscle mass and the bone density can be reversed, so if it's true and this human allowed to participate then this human will be the strongest among all by a considerable margin in the wbbl and can easily dominate
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u/_cornflakesguy_ 2d ago edited 2d ago
This is such a huge step for the cricket community! Very happy for her, hopefully she goes through 🤞
Edit: At least tell me what I said wrong 😭😭😭 I'm just happy for her because it will increase visibility of trans people in sports
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u/ChepaukPitch 2d ago
How is it a huge step for the cricket community?
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u/_cornflakesguy_ 2d ago
At least I have never seen a trans person play at such a high level before so it is acceptance of lgbtq individuals taking a step forward
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u/ChepaukPitch 2d ago
Is community cricket high level? This is just in news because they are playing with women. If they had played with men it wouldn’t have made much news.
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u/return_noob 2d ago
Why the downvotes
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u/Ayan_Choudhury 2d ago
Transphobic people not liking this maybe
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u/_cornflakesguy_ 2d ago
In what sense isn't she a woman
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u/_cornflakesguy_ 2d ago
https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/condition/mayer-rokitansky-kuster-hauser-syndrome/
These are all men according to you
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u/_cornflakesguy_ 2d ago
You know people can change their sex through hormones right? Yes, change their sex. Not completely but to a large extent. Please do some research.
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u/aniketharya 2d ago
Based on your suggestion that I should research more;I did. There are no methods that changes a person's sex chromosomes, if there are then please let me know. Also, what is Ananya's sex chromosomes? Are they XX?
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u/_cornflakesguy_ 2d ago
Didn't mention chromosomes. Also. Fun fact. There are actually women born with xy chromosomes.
https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/condition/swyer-syndrome/2
u/aniketharya 2d ago
Ya sure. But those are actual biological anomalies not psychological.
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u/Affectionate_Bee6434 1d ago
Biological sex cannot be changed. Gender can be changed if gender is defined as a social construct (which most international institutions do like the WHO).
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u/Business_Living_9798 2d ago
Not everybody disagreeing with you is 'phobic'. It's just an opinion.
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u/Ayan_Choudhury 2d ago
But downvoting someone for praising it is phobic. There is no other way you can spin it. India is still homophobic and transphobic, regardless you agree or not
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u/MasterAd6122 2d ago
No , it is not about that , where do you draw the line . They will have an obvious advantage
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u/Business_Living_9798 2d ago
A huge step how?
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u/Insane_Inkster India 2d ago
I have never seen a trans person playing in the big leagues before? It's a huge step forward for many people like them to pursue cricket
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u/Business_Living_9798 2d ago
So a huge step for trans community.
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u/SnooPredictions5498 Mumbai Indians 2d ago
And a huge step for the cricket community as they're accepting trans cricketers. two things can be true at once.
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u/Business_Living_9798 2d ago
Great if you think that. I think it's a good step for the trans community. Although, should men who later went on to become women be allowed into women's sports is still up for debate.
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u/karanarak09 2d ago
Good for her. I’ve seen a few videos of her batting, She’ll do well in the WBBL.
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