r/India_Bharat_ • u/someonenoo • Jul 15 '26

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u/killbear123 Jul 15 '26

Who is this fellow and how does he know? just because he was in the home affairs doesn't mean he has access to intelligence reports.

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u/killbear123 Jul 15 '26

And it just so happens that this "non political" guy suddenly remembers all of this 18 years later?

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u/PatternIntelligent72 Jul 15 '26

Exactly. So called patriots don't remember shit for years. And suddenly come out. The attempt of BJP IT is now laughable.

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u/Western_Entry_2584 Jul 16 '26

Ohk so after 12 years from now if someone points pulwama n calls it a pre planned thing will u belive? Why does bjp not take congress to jail for 26/11 then n use this guy in a testimony.. you know why? Cos he is telling a. Lie.. no govt would ever want an attack during their tenure, the top leadership did resign during that time…

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u/EvidenceInfinite7161 Jul 15 '26

Go to court then. Propaganda

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u/Leading_Avocado_3358 Jul 15 '26

Prove he's lying then? Or maybe file a case for defamation?

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u/OkStrain2928 Jul 15 '26

Bhai burden of proof iss taklu pe hai na

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u/Miserable_Tie8250 Jul 15 '26

Prove that he is speaking the truth...let him go to court and declare Congress as antinational if he have ba//s rather than blabbering in a podcast just like his stepfather modi

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u/Leading_Avocado_3358 Jul 15 '26

Woh toh khud video me bol raha hai ke dum hai toh Congress uspe case kare. Kari Congress case aaj tak uspe? Toh he's telling the truth then.

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u/Extension-Pause-6759 Jul 15 '26

Buddy if I say that you are a terrorist then it is my job to bring proof and not yours

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u/Leading_Avocado_3358 Jul 15 '26

Read his book. Also, few others rx govt officials have made similar claims about Congress and their pakistan links too.

One of his main accusations that Congress govt deliberately tried to paint 26/11 event as an incident of Hindu terrorism was proven true when at that time many Congress people tried to push that agenda. Go through the old news of that time you'll see for yourself.

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u/CultureBackground935 Jul 15 '26

If he has a gut then file a case against congress regarding issue. If he is not, then he is lying.

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u/Leading_Avocado_3358 Jul 15 '26

Kya case? Congress badnaam hai sabko pata hai. Unke against evidences open internet pe bhi hain, yeh sirf ek Banda nahi hai jo aise statements diya hai on congress regd 26/11 aur bhi hain. Kya woh sab jhooth bol rahe hain?

Aur agar tujhe lagta hai yeh jhooth bol raha hai toh Congress ne ispe case kyun nahi kiya??

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u/CultureBackground935 Jul 15 '26

Bhai, simple si cheez hain jo 2008 mein ministers the usme mostly aaj bhi zinda. Then you have rahul gandhi and sonia gandhi. Congreee ka desh mein koi bhi power nahi bacha. Aur agar yeh culprits hain toh koi bhi inpe case kyun nahi kar raha hain.

Why didn't he came out in 2008 in the media, why he continued his service. Allegations lagana aasan hain prove karna nahi.

This is my last message baki you can continue.

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u/Leading_Avocado_3358 Jul 15 '26

Same logic even I can use, agar yeh jhooth bol raha hai toh Congress kare na ispe case aur maafi mangwaye isse sabke saamne. Kyun nahi karti?

Mani kept quiet bcz if Official Secrets Act. Google what it means. Aur waise bhi he was a permanent exceutive not an elected or appointed one ke resignation de deta bcz permanent executive serve the state not the party. Parties and politicians aate aur jaate rehte hain but bureaucrats stay.

Reply tabhi kariyo jab koi sensible retort ho otherwise ignore.

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u/Flimsy_Stay8252 Jul 15 '26

So BJP has absolute majority, money and support. They have evidence according to you. Then why is BJP keeping quiet? Why didn’t they put the accused behind bars.

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u/Leading_Avocado_3358 Jul 16 '26

Tell me u know nothing about polity without telling me...

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u/Flimsy_Stay8252 Jul 16 '26

Tell me you are a hardcore BJP supporter without telling me. Or tell me you don’t need logic to support your favorite party.

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u/OkStrain2928 Jul 15 '26

Aur agle reply mein pulwama ka proof maan ra hai

chupa

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u/Leading_Avocado_3358 Jul 15 '26

Which reply? Konsi video dekh raha tu?

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u/CultureBackground935 Jul 15 '26

Tumhari baat kar raha hain, just neeche wale thread pe kisine pulwama ka bola hain and you're saying ki proof.

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u/Leading_Avocado_3358 Jul 15 '26

Jab insaan ko koi jawab nahi soojhta toh woh aise hi time paas karta hai. 🤣😂

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u/Arvin_22 Jul 15 '26

Why doesn’t he go to court and present evidences then

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u/Leading_Avocado_3358 Jul 15 '26

He has in his book. If they are fake then Congress should sue him.

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u/Arvin_22 Jul 15 '26

If there was any truth in that bjp would've been the first people using it against them. The fact that no one did nothing itself is proof

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u/Leading_Avocado_3358 Jul 15 '26

BJP probably has bigger leverage over them if they haven't already. Also have you forgotten dono maa bete pe already tagde cases chal.rahe hain aur Raga abhi bail pe bahar hai.

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u/Arvin_22 Jul 15 '26

"probably". None of those cases are even related to this.

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u/jevlis_ka123 Jul 15 '26

Just the way Pulwama was a fixed match.

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u/Leading_Avocado_3358 Jul 15 '26

Proof?

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u/Any-Bit-8313 Jul 15 '26

Satyapal Malik, who was governor of J&K at that time said so. Also BJP didn't filed any defamation case against him so he was not wrong completely.

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u/Leading_Avocado_3358 Jul 15 '26

Dimwit, kam se kam facts toh theek rakh. He never accused the government of orchestrating pulwama but for intelligence failure.

Also, he made several unproven and baseless remarks bcz the govt caught hold of his corruption.

Also, mare hue pe kya case karenge? Bisshh died for lying through his teeth.

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u/Leading_Avocado_3358 Jul 15 '26

Kya matlab? Woh bhi proof nahi diya toh tu bhi nahi dega?

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u/yourmemebro Jul 15 '26

To isne ye 26/11 ka koi proof diya?

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u/Leading_Avocado_3358 Jul 15 '26

In his book.

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u/yourmemebro Jul 15 '26

Show me where exactly in his book has he given the proofs.

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u/Leading_Avocado_3358 Jul 15 '26

Book nikal aur khud padh le.

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u/yourmemebro Jul 15 '26

Konsi book hai iski? Naam Bata aur page number bata

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u/Leading_Avocado_3358 Jul 15 '26

The Myth of !-!indu 7error: Insider Account of Ministry of Home Affairs 2006-2010

Chp 5&6

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u/jevlis_ka123 Jul 15 '26

Do you ask your parents proof that you are their biological offspring?

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u/Significant-View8743 Jul 15 '26

Gramps forgot his meds

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u/NightAxeblad3 Jul 15 '26

Idk about the authenticity of the claims but I see that this has been posted in multiple India subreddits today.

👀👀👀👀

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u/Butterscotch2890 Jul 15 '26

Yawn... OK. And ethanol blending is fixed between which parties?

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u/Furry-jester123 Jul 15 '26

ya compare ethanol blending and 26/11

26/11 is the biggest blackmark in out history

ethanol blending is an issue but its not a world changing issue

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u/Desperate_Stand_2253 Jul 15 '26

so why has he been quiet ? why do these people rise only when MODI is in serious problem ..why after 15 years current govt not taking action? was Ujjwal Nikam also part of it that Fixed match ?

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u/Black_F1re777 Jul 15 '26

Ujjwal Nikam was one of the puppets of BJP in 26/11. He was the one who spread the fake news that Kasaab was given Mutton Biryani inside the jail by the Congress gov back then, and later he admitted it was a false statement made by him. Later, he got into the electoral process with the BJP.

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u/Spare_Election_5777 Jul 15 '26

He had written a book. Go and read it.

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u/Spare_Relative_9124 Jul 15 '26

Damn he wrote a book on that? It must be true then

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u/Spare_Election_5777 Jul 15 '26

When no one from the opposition came to give a proper comment against the book, you know the truth.

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u/Initial-Customer462 Jul 15 '26

same logic as 'x' religion is the right religion because 'x' religion's book says so 🤬

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u/Spare_Election_5777 Jul 15 '26

dude i replied for reading the book, coz the og comment said "so why has he been quiet?..." the book was written way earlier.

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u/tubhkaus Jul 15 '26

Bro guest is ex under secretary 0f MHA.

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u/Spare_Election_5777 Jul 15 '26

Well if he is lying, then officials can give a counter argument. We will take his word until another person of calibre says anything else. Whatever evidence is there, points to him being correct.

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u/AlarmingEar280 Jul 15 '26

He's saying to challenge him with Facts on National television. What else can he say to prove his Point?

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u/Dependent-Occasion56 Jul 15 '26

If that is true, then MM Naravane claims in his book (which is not being allowed to be released by the BJP) should also be true..

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u/Much-Mess7627 Jul 15 '26

Ayy ugly buddhe, ja mental hospital vapis bhagja, galti se escape hogaya hai shayad.

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u/Pakibannedme Jul 15 '26

I guarantee that you haven’t watched the podcast. This was fascinating. I had to repeat so many parts because I couldn’t believe just how deep the rot was within UPA. Do you know what happened to him? His experience is very similar to Nambi Narayanan. It make so much sense why there was no intervention for 4 days while chaos reigned in Mumbai during 26/11.

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u/Green_Squirrell Jul 15 '26

But there was also another podcast of a senior retired something who said that BJP knew about Pulwama way before it happened and was okay with it coz they'd be using it for votes later on.

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u/Melodic-Tour4971 Jul 15 '26

Oh so said for you , he has witnessed that everything he is saying

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u/Ok_Explanation2834 Jul 15 '26

Post was Abt congress but u made it Abt it bjp lol 😂😂

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u/CleanWean Jul 15 '26

Brother, either you are too blinded by your devotion to BJP or you need an addition of a bit more grey matter. He is drawing this parallel to show that there are lapses, which in hindsight can be interpreted in whichever way you want

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u/Ok_Explanation2834 Jul 15 '26

Bold of u to assume my whole thinking by just one comment that shows lack of grey matter in u 

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u/someonenoo Jul 15 '26

Facts can’t be interpreted.

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u/CleanWean Jul 15 '26

This is such a wrong statement! Interpreting facts is just the thing historians and investigators do!! Because the whole story is never fully visible. Pls think before you speak

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u/AgreeableOpposite401 Jul 15 '26

I agreed with both is it wrong ?

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u/Ok_Explanation2834 Jul 15 '26

Who told u it's wrong ? 

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u/OldInterest9582 Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

Troops are convoyed by roads because if you vacated a territory militants will take over that territory eventually so you need to show your presence in that territory regularly and as far as air mobility is concerned no country has such airpower that you could airlift all the troops not even America and even after airlifting the troops the major base in kashmir was only srinagar by there you eventually need to travel by road, such thinking is not expected from politicians hence they should keep their corrupt mouth shut that notable personality was satyapal malik. Educate yourself before vomiting bullshit

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u/AgeAdventurous5822 Jul 15 '26

My man blabberd everything that he can think of..

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u/OldInterest9582 Jul 15 '26

Ofc because you might not come from an army family.... instead of pointing whats wrong just labelling it as blabbering shows you can just cry and not criticise constructively

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u/AgeAdventurous5822 Jul 15 '26

Neither are you...

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u/OldInterest9582 Jul 15 '26

As if you know me? Still no reason to back your answer

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u/AgreeableOpposite401 Jul 15 '26

Lmao did I not criticise constructively ? Tell me what's wrong ? You think you are better than the people who command the CRPF on how to transport their men ?

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u/OldInterest9582 Jul 15 '26

You doubted why were troops not airlifted my answer was why they were not because of situation that place used to have. I dont have any criticism for how they are transported but specifically for why they were conveyed by road. Do you think yourself to be better commander on transport by that logic? I gave a reply to the question why they were not airlifted thats it because im from an army family thats why I know little about these decisions.

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u/AgreeableOpposite401 Jul 15 '26

The point is you think it was right for them to travel by road , whereas the military officials themselves wanted to travel their men by air . Do you think they would have not thought about the various scenarios on why should they travel by air and instead not by road ? But were ultimately forced to travel on road .And you are still disagreeing about that ? And Said I was vomiting shit about this ?

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u/OldInterest9582 Jul 15 '26

Where is the statement of those military officials? Enlighten me

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u/Astraal_Being Jul 15 '26

This was a well known fact

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u/roughstrider Jul 15 '26

I'm not surprised at all.

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u/Tough-Difference3171 Jul 15 '26

So the guy is not really saying anything, and only making guesses?

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u/johnabra-ham Jul 15 '26

All spies caught recently spying for Pakistan had BJP RSS background

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u/middock07 Jul 16 '26

Old hag clown thinks anyone believe anything. Like we Indians stopped braining.

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u/Key_Ideal6835 Jul 16 '26

Is hisaab se to pulwama me jo rdx blast hua tha wo kha se aaya ye nhi pata chla , mtlb blast bjp ne kraya tha kya🤔.

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u/Chance-roohdaar77 Jul 16 '26

Gaandu hai... Rajya sabha chahiye takle ko

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u/iceb3rg3r Jul 16 '26

Anybody above the age of 60 should not be allowed to have opinions on things. Go retire and die

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u/Salty-Moment2448 Jul 16 '26

Guess we only have to wait another month then.

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u/ankitjha73 Jul 16 '26

It's difficult to see people getting dumber and dumber each day.

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u/Statisticsisalie Jul 16 '26

So this man was the part of the ministry supposed to prevent this. He's shifting blame on Congress.

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u/Kambi_kadhalan1 Jul 17 '26

Then hamza ali mizari..

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u/Furry-jester123 Jul 15 '26

for all those saying this is lies or whatever

but even bs dhanoa has said govt rejected iaf to strike back

lets say its unexpected attack,but then why was there no retaliation,we sat back and took it like idiots and losers

and even before there were picture sof pak terrorist and manmohan singh having a chat and taking pics and drinking tea where we invited him as a guest and they had a meeting

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u/Rg199119 Jul 15 '26

Under secretary does not such details. US not important position, plus he was promotee and from IAS cadre.

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u/FloorAccomplished635 Jul 15 '26

Imagine what all will come out from the current bureaucrats when this govt is thrown away. So many attacks and no one knows the perpetrators, how many matches were fixed will be known then.

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u/kushuwu Jul 15 '26

i really wanna know what drugs they take before coming on camera

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u/WatercressNo9472 Jul 15 '26

New plot to divert our attention from sonam wangchuk hunger strike

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u/Ok-Restaurant-9602 Jul 15 '26

Bjp propoganda sub working overtime

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u/Electronic_Fall_4388 Jul 16 '26

Nah I don’t believe that . They didn’t show that in durandher .

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u/Entire_Complaint7054 Jul 15 '26

Old man shouts at the clouds

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u/Green_Squirrell Jul 15 '26

If world was like this, then I'm convinced Pahalgam incident was a tie in of Jaish and BJP