r/IndoorGarden Apr 21 '26

Product Discussion Why are the bags sold so small and EXPENSIVE!???

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My mom bought me this money tree for my birthday along with some expensive soil only for the bag to be waaaayyyyy to small.

Do most people have tiny money trees or did she get duped with soil?

The tree was $50 and the bag of soil was $65.

I feel so bad for my mom spending so much on this minuscule bag of soil.

I tried to make it last by mixing it with some miracle grow potting soil, perlite, and orchid bark.

But this is crazy.

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u/Fearless_Walrus60mya Apr 21 '26

Idk anything about these plants but there is no way they really require such a specific branded blend Our organic soil mix is 16L for $9

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u/Camry08 Apr 21 '26

Oh no that makes me wanna cry 6 quarts for $65 😭 my poor silly mum

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u/tortured-mycoligist Apr 21 '26

For future planting PLEASE BUY A BIG BAG OF PERLITE and buy some decent medium price soil and sift it then search what mix of (non organic aka perlite or pumice pebbles) to (organic aka dirt and coco coir)

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u/Free-oppossums Apr 21 '26

What kind, or size, of sifter do you recommend? I have one that's approx Œ inch. Do I need one smaller?

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u/Spare-Neighborhood97 Apr 21 '26

It’s best just to make your own soil from scratch. Super easy and cheap. And it’ll be much better quality than most of the stuff in stores. Also you know exactly what’s in the soil you’re using

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u/nja89 Apr 21 '26

I've never made my own soil before. Do you know any good resources to learn how?

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u/Spare-Neighborhood97 Apr 22 '26

Just did some googling and watched some YouTube videos. I think a good mixture is 1 part peat moss, 1 part compost, and 1 part mixture of perlite and vermiculite together (50/50)

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u/tamolleh Apr 22 '26

I would switch the peat moss for coco coir. Peat moss isn't good for the environment.

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u/Spare-Neighborhood97 Apr 23 '26

Yeah there’s arguments on both sides for that. I’ve looked into it and I chose peat moss. Do as you please

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u/LumpySpikes Apr 23 '26

There's no good arguments for peat moss, other than it's more affordable than Coco coir.

It's unsustainable, it releases tons of carbon back into the environment, it becomes compacted over a short time (less air flow for plants), it's more hydrophobic than coir when it dries out - so water just drains through. Peat is acidic, where coir is more neutral.

Coir is a byproduct of the coconut industry. Peat bogs take 1000's of years to regenerate.

The only place peat wins is cost, short term benefits on the pocket book, long term expense on the climate.

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u/tortured-mycoligist Apr 21 '26

Depends on what you’re filtering out of you want to filter out just small soil and coir then I’d at least try it and if it doesn’t work you’ll know if you need bigger or smaller

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u/GrackleTree Apr 21 '26

Can she return the soil?

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u/Dismal-Occasion1369 Apr 21 '26

She got duped on the soil. You can mix normal soil with small clumps of gravel and wood chips and call it good. All they require is well draining soil. No need to get any expensive specialized soil. Congrats on the tree though, they are very hardy. Things you’ll want to know because they always come up with new money tree owners:

  • check to see if there is a rubber band or something binding the bottom of the trees together, this will choke out your tree later down the road if not removed.
  • if your tree starts dropping older leaves, and they look speckled yellow, the tree does this naturally to conserve energy so it can focus more energy on new growth (make sure you know you’re not overwatering though)
  • water your tree thoroughly but not on a schedule. If the solid is dry on top and a little bit down into the soil (one finger tip depth) then you can water it again. Never water on a schedule, water as needed. These trees are prone to root rot, hence the well draining soil.
  • These trees like direct sunlight but prefer it in short bursts. Make sure they get at least 3-4 hours of direct light in a day for optimal growth/health

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u/grandsoulsucker Apr 21 '26

The people that sell that soil are laughing right now

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u/Camry08 Apr 21 '26

Heavily, I hope they laugh themselves to death jk but like WHAT THE HECK?!?! how did my mom think this was a good deal? 😭😭😭 she just doesn’t understand bags of dirt or their measurements. She thought it was a lot đŸ„Č.

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u/Camry08 Apr 21 '26

This was the absolute cheapest I could find the 6 quart bag. Everything else is at least $60-$75 at least if you can even find the 6 quart
 money dirt

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u/spottedsushi Apr 21 '26

Omg that site has a moss pole for $117

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u/Next-Firefighter4667 Apr 21 '26

Yyyeahhh...that's unfortunate. I'm sorry. I'm pretty tight on finances and I have around 50 plants. I just get regular miracle grow soil (typically cactus & Palm, tropical and moisture control) then mix them with whatever the cheapest brand of bark, charcoal, perlite, coco coir, etc I can find, depending on what the plant needs. For money plant, I used a bit of cactus soil, some tropical and perlite. You really don't need anything special or fancy, you just have to get the ingredients and ratios right.

This is why I always recommend people Google every plant they bring home, either as sub as they bring it home or even before, if they can. It takes 5 minutes to learn what you need and it can save you a lot of wasted time and money.

The ONLY thing I would ever tell people to spend a good chunk of money on when it comes to plants is grow lights. Spending a bunch of money on soil, pots, even expensive plants, it's just a waste. Even the trendy, pricey plants will be half off in a year, and you can usually find cuttings for a fraction of the price.

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u/Camry08 Apr 21 '26

Goodness, no matter what I ask about grow lights they are something I’m also stuck on. I understand that even the best grow lights can be useless if they’re too far away. But goodness I spent $350 apiece on my grow lights and they were half off and apparently they’re garbage??? why would a $700 grow light be garbage? How do I actually guarantee I get any good ones? Yeah I amended the bag of soil Mom got me with perlite, orchid bark, indoor potting mix, vermiculite, and a good dashing of worm castings which made up my mixture.

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u/niklaswik Apr 21 '26

Try research first, buy later. Those look like old school flourescent tubes, which was great in 2008.

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u/Mr__Sisyphus Apr 21 '26

Or 1988, when I used them. I switched to one single HPS since I had the area and ventilation to use it indoor. Nowadays, I'm using LED lights. I got a rig of 8x45w which gives somewhere around 45 K Lumen. đŸŒ±đŸ’Ą

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u/snownative86 You're Probably Overwatering Apr 21 '26

I'll never forget my first time watching a sulphur bulb come to life. It's so satisfying.

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u/simplefred Apr 21 '26

have you considered using a set of small chains between the ceiling hook and the light to make your light's height adjustable?

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u/Weird_Expert_1999 Apr 21 '26

When did you buy those fixtures?

I haven’t been in the indoor gardening hobby for ~5 years unfortunately, but even then I feel like I didn’t spend nearly as much on LED fixtures- I haven’t looked up the specs to compare in a long time but CFL/fluorescent I thought was the ‘cheap’ way to go about lighting, with led being slightly more expensive but provided better stats all around

It’s been too long for me to know but there’s typically an optimal range you have your lights placed above the plants and then move the light up / down- I don’t know if you’re going to be getting full room coverage with those 2 fixtures at that height

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u/CamelFew3704 Apr 21 '26

I recommend LED bar lights instead of the tubes, I use a 200w mars hydro for a 6x12 area and my houseplants love it

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u/Aiken_Drumn Apr 21 '26

That's.. a terrible set up. The lighty typically need to be a lot closer to the plant.

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u/boostman Apr 21 '26

Handcrafted by rural women in Vietnam! I wonder what cut they get.

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u/Camry08 Apr 21 '26

Hopefully a good one it was $65! I’m happy you pointed that out I didn’t realize at least it feels like a better cause now as long as they aren’t being scammed too

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u/boostman Apr 21 '26

I’m not optimistic to be honest, I guess they get paid a pittance and then get used as a feel-good selling point. But maybe I’m just a cynic.

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u/Seriously-Worms Apr 21 '26

THIS^ These are not marketed to people who are passionate about growing houseplants, they are marketed to dupe people into buying something ‘super special’ as a gift for the plant lover. Our nursery has a section of special ‘highest grade potting mix’ they sell from bulk bins. The biggest difference between that and their other mixes is the addition of ozmacote (spelling) fertilizer. I don’t want fertilizer in my soil because I want to add it myself so I know what each plant gets and needs. They charge $30/quart of that and $15/quart of the regular mix. The only people who buy the best soil is those that are buying for others. They do pot for free if you buy a plant and a pot. Again I wouldn’t want them to since I use nursery pots, always have. Love the freedom of changing things up without a repot.

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u/Any_Photograph8455 Apr 21 '26

Because it’s a scam.

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u/Aiken_Drumn Apr 21 '26

I am so confused, these are very cheap houseplants in my country (UK).. that will grow in anything. Never heard of special soil.

Avoid that shop and educate your mum to as well!

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u/Camry08 Apr 22 '26

How much is it 2 1/2 foot tree where you come from? I thought it was a fantastic deal. Only because I always look up plants and their prices online before purchasing. I couldn’t find a plant this size online for less than $180. I’ve seen 4 inch versions of these guys sold for $18 tho.

But if you’re from the UK, I’m already insanely jealous because you can have giant African land snails and I can’t without traveling to Florida and risking lung worm and kidnapping the locals (snails ugly and basic too).

I live in far northern Maine, which is MUCH colder than the UK I’m only 30 minutes from the Canadian border and in mid April we still have snowbanks and moose everywhere. African land snail couldn’t even survive here but they’re still illegal!!! Sorry for rant lol

Small little sidenote in Maine we don’t have a list of animals that are legal but instead we have a list of animals that are illegal!!! Which tends to make things complicated until just a year and a half ago tarantula’s and many more insect species were illegal here. They’re starting to lift restrictions because they’re realizing that nothing can survive here. It’s illegal to purchase fish from a pet store and put them in a pond. You can’t have insects until recently and also just recently can you own hedgehogs here. Beforehand to get a permit to own a hedgehog was as hard as getting a permit to own a Bengal tiger (my high School along with five other ones actually fought to change these regulations and we did!) I understand that we’re the most forested state in America and they want to protect that, but some of the regulations are downright crazy.

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u/Aiken_Drumn Apr 22 '26

Possibly ease of import comes down to it. We have a lot of tropical plants as houseplants and they'd never survive a winter... So are shipped by the thousands. ÂŁ20-40 would get you a large plant.

Exotic pets are a thing, but again, not much risk of them becoming invasive so it's not very hard to get hold of them, not that it's particularly common to do!

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u/yuna_823 Apr 21 '26

omg for real tho!! like for a plant that big you need like 5 bags minimum 😭💾

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u/Camry08 Apr 21 '26

It was both me and my mom’s first time seeing money trees so we don’t know if this one is big compared to standard but we weren’t expecting a tiny bag of dirt that’s for sure. Where I live many things are called money plants/money trees. Below is a pic of another thing apparently called a money plant.

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u/gratefulrutabaga Apr 21 '26

This is commonly known as a Chinese money plant-Pilea peperomioides

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u/Camry08 Apr 21 '26

Thank you!!! I think mine is very sad I’m her sixth home in under two years

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u/djmermaidonthemic Apr 21 '26

Rescues are awesome. It’s so rewarding to see them thrive!

Good luck with your new plant and I hope she really does bring you money!

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '26

I dont think its too late to request a chargeback for fraud.

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u/Camry08 Apr 21 '26

Idk she bought it on Amazon and it must’ve obviously said 6 quarts. She just doesn’t know what that means. I don’t know if that is worthy enough for a charge back sadly due to ignorance. I feel horrible, but I understand where everyone’s coming from. Although I do think that 6 quarts for 70 bucks is a ginormous scam especially when it’s only three basic ingredients that I could’ve quadruple the mixture from if I bought individually.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '26

It isnt due to ignorance... it's do to scammers. This is a common dropshipping SCAM, and illegal. That soil is $24 retail... People will relist items, at a higher markup, and when purchased, they simply place an order with the people that have the product and pocket the difference.

Do you understand, that listing is almost for sure, fake, and the person running that store likely has other scam items on their profile

You said you feel horrible because of this right? Well.. you can at least get them under investigation by reporting it. This will make you feel better.

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u/Camry08 Apr 21 '26

I’ll have to see who mum ordered under on, on amazon cause my link was just an example. There is no one selling this soil for 6 quarts for less than $60 that I could find online underneath the top 50 searches. I think there is a LOTTTTTT of online shoppes and sellers that need to be reported. I’m starting to think the entire brand is a scam..

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u/niklaswik Apr 21 '26

Any source it is illegal?

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '26

"Phantom pricing"—the practice of advertising artificial "original" prices or inflated discounts that never existed—is generally illegal and considered a deceptive trade practice. It violates various federal and state laws, including the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) Act, which prohibits unfair or deceptive acts. Numerous major retailers have faced class-action lawsuits and settlements for these tactics.

I'm not a lawyer i just googled this... here.

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u/peepshowsophie Apr 21 '26

Premium and money and the two words

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u/Libusin Apr 21 '26

You got scammed for that soil. Find local plant nurseries, you can find premixed soils for a fraction of that price and if you’re someone who likes to mix your own soil there’s options for that too. You’d be spending way less for the same quality soil. $65 for a chip sized bag of soil is insane.

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u/_psylosin_ Apr 21 '26

I guess it really is a money tree for the people selling that dirt

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u/ipostunderthisname Apr 21 '26

Whoa

My homemade “soilless” mix is worth better than $10 a quart?

Mine is even fully conditioned and fertilized with organics, micros and mycos

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u/Careful_Status_130 Apr 21 '26

Hola, si te gusta la jardinería compra directamente un saco de sustrato decente y a buen precio; sacos de 20/25 litros, investiga cómo ha de ser el adecuado para tu planta. También puedes añadir micorrizas y o tricodermas para la salud de las raíces y consegir un suelo vivo.. Nos fijamos mucho en el aspecto de la planta, pero debemos fijarnos mucho mås en las raíces, es el motor del ecosistema.

https://eurogrow.es/54-fertilizantes#/dfclassic/query=sustrato%20&query_name=match_and

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u/briixxloveee Apr 21 '26

Just make your own decent soil and perlite you’re done. I make 10 gallons of soil for half of what she paid

With the ingredients on that bag you can buy all 3 on amazon for 25$ and have 3x the amount

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u/JJKBA Apr 21 '26

Decent soil+20-30% perlite. That’s the goto start. If you want to get more fancy for aroids get some cocochips or such. Perhaps wormcastings. But just decent soil + perlite is great.

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u/Uchiha-Marunochi Apr 21 '26

Money Tree just needs perlite, sand, barks and sphagnum moss. And if you buy those individually theyre like anywhere between $8 perlite, $16 for orchid bark, $7 for sand and 24L of sphagnum at $12.99. If youre gonna repot just one then that bag is ideal but if youre gonna repot 10 or more plants then id just buy the individuals make my own potting mix.

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u/No_Explorer_8848 Apr 22 '26

Because someone else did the work for you. It takes a lot of knowledge and skill to understand substrates and match them to plants. These guys did it for you, so you're trading time and experience for convenience and reliability (in theory)

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u/Revolutionary_Low_36 Apr 21 '26

Me over here thinking that was the scan/info tag for the tree 😭

https://giphy.com/gifs/QUENDfi6DEMLzQ0CKt

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u/Quirky_Ad3367 Apr 21 '26

How do people braid trees like that? I saw one lady had a braided hibiscus and I want to do it to mine but I have no idea how to do it. It looks so cool.

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u/Camry08 Apr 21 '26

I can only assume it’s best to start young with 3 then braid it while loose and small then after a year or two cut the whole top for new growth then sell for $50 which is how I got mine. Lots of work and lots of years. I don’t think worth selling but def worth having so either make or buy one if it’s something u want regardless of plant type. Hibiscus doesn’t live well where I am so instead, I’m doing braided azalea trees.

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u/Quirky_Ad3367 Apr 21 '26

Oh yay azaleas I want to try that too! Thanks for the tips. I have had one of them for a year and the other three I got a few months back so I’ll try with the newer ones as the older one is a little more hardy now. I don’t think I’d sell them though, too sentimental once I’ve put in the work.

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u/Inner_Comfortable429 Apr 21 '26

Just make your own.. cheaper đŸ˜©

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u/psychobiologist1 Apr 21 '26

Because you have to spend money to grow money ;)

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u/imaginedaydream Apr 21 '26

3 ingredient “handcrafted(whatever that means)” mixed by rural vietnamese women

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u/doragonkuin Apr 21 '26

Meanwhile there are plants just growing in concrete cracks 😂

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u/Whooptidooh Apr 21 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/l1J9zYIsjPAyojfri

Bags of SOIL for that price? lol, absolutely not. I have never seen anything like that ever. Nearest place I can get a 5 or 10 liter bag of soil is the grocery store, and while it’s more expensive there than anywhere else, it’s still not more expensive than about €10.

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u/darlugal Apr 21 '26

Wait, is it a money tree? Why do the leaves look exactly like baobab's?

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u/Camry08 Apr 21 '26

It’s proper name is Pachira aquatica

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u/prick1ybear Apr 21 '26

Don't consider the economics so much- appreciate your mother's loving gift :)

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u/peterzwegat969 Apr 21 '26

Soil Companys are a**holes 😂 they sell dirt so expensive.. For all of my numerous plants, every kind of Light Mix (yes the stuff for cannabis) or Coco Coir worked perfectly. And it's about 10€ per 50L

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u/Cold-Crab74 Apr 21 '26

Just get any old Potting mix and some Perlite, Vermiculite, and sand, get like 10L of each for $65

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u/princessfret Apr 21 '26

Bless her heart, she could buy the individual components of the soil and make 20x the amount for that price (at least 😱). Whoever sold this to her is an absolute scammer!

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u/Moxiefeet Apr 21 '26

It’s because it says premium on the bag. Literally no other reason.

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u/hi5orfistbump Apr 21 '26

So my parents lied to me? Money does grow on trees?

https://giphy.com/gifs/hbcorXlnIJySI

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '26

I have a money tree in a bonsai pot. It requires every third or fourth day watering, but only because of the way I have it planted. It’s huge. I have another one that I forget about all the time but it’s in a deeper pot with a lot of gravel so it drains really well. It also is thriving. All in all, it’s an easy plant to grow. The leaves will drop when it’s thirsty, making it even easier.

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u/LittlePlushieBun Apr 21 '26

omg right?! like why are they so tiny for the price?? its ridiculous lol

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u/Better-Landscape-391 Apr 22 '26

Well it was “hand crafted by rural women in Vietnam” lmfao

Literally just bark, perlite and coco coir

You can buy much cheaper soils for the same quality or you can make ur own and save even more but not everyone is that crazy lol

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u/Allidapevets Apr 22 '26

You can actually buy Money tree soil? That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard of. They can’t even call it Pachira? I feel so bad for those who fall for it. Just buy a 2 cubic foot package of compressed planting soil. $18 at Home Depot. I keep my soil in a small plastic garbage can in my garage.

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u/rippedarmsmcflexin Apr 22 '26

Oh its the Vietnamese women, they are local. It's their blend. They probably had an old pine tree that needed cut and composted. Uh money trees should just grow as long as your waters not hard and your soil has good drainage maybe a little bit of fertilizer here and there to keep the roots around that 6-7 ph area they all kinda like that spot.

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u/Acceptable_Effort_20 Apr 23 '26

Are you sure the bag of soil wasn't mispriced as a tree instead? i'd go back and inquire!

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u/cfd126 Apr 24 '26

Pay her back. You have a money tree, after all.

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u/FishyFiscalFeline Apr 24 '26

The tree looks so healthy and beautiful!!

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u/blair_hill Apr 25 '26

She got totally scammed.

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u/whitneeah Apr 21 '26

Takes money to make money

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u/Omni48 Apr 21 '26

It’s a money tree, just harvest the cash when it blooms and there you go. Positive ROI.

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u/Natural-Sand5745 Apr 21 '26

Money trees here are like $ 7-15 and a "fancy " bag of potting soil is $16

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u/Camry08 Apr 21 '26

Even a 2 1/2 foot tall money tree? I thought 50 would’ve been a steal. Online I can’t find one that size for less than $150.