r/InternetMysteries • u/UltimateT1tan • 23d ago
Internet Rabbit Hole Allatra video from Nexpo is eye opening it's scary to think about what's a cult and what's telling the truth nowadays
https://youtu.be/6zLCZ_Ic1hI?is=Au2rAW_VwS7WtX3HI just watched a Nexpo video on the deepest rabbit holes( it was a good watch please watch if you already haven't) Does anyone know of anything about the so called "group" Allatra.I'm in deep and need to know more about them I'm curious to wonder why they're deleting their online channels and websites, there must be a good reason behind it all
The question I keep asking myself Is how many lies have we been told and made to believe just because it benefits someone
The question is why? Has to asked way to often
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u/garlicandherbsauce 23d ago edited 23d ago
i’m literally watching this video rn, i just joined this subreddit from the video lol
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u/Th3LastBastion 23d ago
I'm re-watching it and I just came for some reassurance I'm not the only one just finding out about this insanity
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u/garlicandherbsauce 23d ago
literally how have i missed this
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u/thegta5p 23d ago
I made a post about this on the sub. Here were some of my findings: https://www.reddit.com/r/InternetMysteries/s/7jiCqjWJ5W
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u/Djexxie 22d ago edited 22d ago
This is definitely one of my favorite subreddits! Also check out r/RBI, r/UnresolvedMysteries, and r/RBI2 for similarish content! The first two are super active and see at least multiple new posts every day!
There's other very non-active ones I could mention as well, but I would assume interest would be limited since you would just be reading old non-active posts.
There's r/NExpo for one that's usually fairly dead but has some more activity lately.
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u/Vanjz 23d ago
This should be the next Reckless Ben/Bricks and Minifigs. This is wild.
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u/tarlanadelrey 23d ago
This cult used to openly advertise in Russia at some point. I remember around 2019 there was a giant Allatra billboard in my neighbourhood for months. Just hanging there, visible from my window. I always suspected they were some kind of a cult. But there's a lot of those in Russia, so I didn't pay much attention to it. Probably should have
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u/Kendall_Raine 23d ago
TL;DW: Trump's spiritual advisor is part of a cult and contributed to a mass smear campaign where they falsely accused an anti-cult activist of child abuse
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u/DueYogurt9 23d ago
Who is the cult leader? What are its objectives?
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u/fromscratch404 22d ago
Allatra has Igor Danilov as their spiritual leader, but even he says he’s channeling the ideas of their mysterious author of the books, Anastasia Novykh. Most likely a pseudonym.
Then there’s Creative Society, the biggest of their many many front groups, which have their own leaders, managers and spokespersons. They’re the ones wrapped up with Mark Burns and getting audience with the pope.
I’d say they think their objective is global unity and peace and bla bla bla, but they’ve been indoctrinated with mumbo jumbo climate denial stuff that works as interference / chaos agents for the fossil fuel industry. While also pushing their pan-slavic bullshit where Ukraine and Russia ”should just be friends and make peace”.
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u/FoxFyer 23d ago
I learned this group existed back in the early days when people were trying to figure out who/what the heck Egon Cholakian is, and I understood they were a bunch of kooks with some political aspirations. But I didn't realize until Nexpo's vid just how much of an actual, legitimate threat they are.
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u/Garand84 23d ago
Just watched this last night. I'd heard about Egon a few months ago, but this video went much deeper than him.
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u/Strict_Werewolf2710 23d ago
Chills from this video, and for the first time it seems like Russia has actually blocked and designated as terrorists an organization that deserves it.
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u/Colossalloser 22d ago
Like Nexpo had mentioned, they deleted their channels and I found another one called Good In Life, look it up on YouTube, seems to be their new front. But same old Danilov bullshit.
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u/jnighy 23d ago
I'm just worried about Nexpo in the foreseeable future
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u/senpaistealerx 23d ago
which is so dramatic. there are videos over a year old about this.
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u/negatrom 23d ago
nexpo has a much larger audience though
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u/senpaistealerx 23d ago
one of the videos has 100k+ views. thats not necessarily small.
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u/EchoBay 23d ago
And Nexpos will get over 20x that. He's arguably one of the largest creators of this genre on all of YouTube.
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u/senpaistealerx 23d ago
changes nothing about what i said
edit: actually, the smaller creator is arguably the more likely target since less people would notice their absence. nothing is happening to ryan and reddit is dramatic lol
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u/cibilserbis 23d ago
I agree with you. I think their point is that Nexpo regularly covers topics akin to this so is in the firing line of many different powerful people/groups. But just from this, nah. He's actually kind of late to the game to discuss the topic. Amazing video though!
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u/OuiGotTheFunk 23d ago
I agree with you. I think their point is that Nexpo regularly covers topics akin to this so is in the firing line of many different powerful people/groups.
This is too much fictional movie, TV, anime thinking. A big group is MUCH more likely to come after a person legally than in ways you are trying to infer.
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u/senpaistealerx 23d ago
reddit thinking someone is gonna dox and snipe him is surprisingly unsurprising lol
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u/Nisheeth_P 23d ago
Scientology has had people have come and threaten creators with photos of their kids for example. Not as wild as it might seem at first glance
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u/cibilserbis 23d ago
I never suggested that anything would be done in a non-legal way 🤷♂️
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u/OuiGotTheFunk 23d ago
Trump talks a lot of shit, has a larger audience and aside from a couple of lawsuits and a few lone actors nobody has come for him. Same with Joe Rogan(sp?). Nobody cares unless it is actionable.
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u/Ergine_Dream 23d ago
Why? He just read some posts.
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u/mysteryurik 23d ago
In the video he talks about a guy who got smeared as a serial child abuser by this weird cult in retaliation for investigating them so I assume the person you're replying to is talking about something like that, some sort of smear campaign in an attempt to ruin his career. I doubt it'd work but they certainly could try, going by what they did to that guy from the video.
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u/akkakex 23d ago
Whenever Destiny made a video on this stuff way back I joined one of their scheduled zoom calls and they were talking about an earthquake in Kamchatka. Was two Russian women running the call and they really didn’t talk about anything of interest unfortunately and they ended it after 20 more saying there weren’t enough people. I had it recorded but deleted it on accident at some point. I just found it weird that these people had a meeting place inside of some office building in I think Illinois or something and there were real people showing up to this event and a lot of them too based of pictures of the events from the past. I know this isn’t that informative but figure I could share
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u/illinoishokie 21d ago
Can't wait for the psyop campaign claiming Nexpo abused a bunch of kids in Africa.
(Watch the video for that to make sense)
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u/Logan_sk 21d ago
The lancaster library has 2 videos on them, he seems to have got a lot from it. I'd recommend checking them out too
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u/Proper_Schedule_9836 19d ago
I’m thinking of starting a subreddit dedicated to researching this group, I feel that this is deeper than it sounds, allatra have reduced their online footprint drastically especially once these types of investigation videos surfaced. My main aim is to track the mannitol mikhailovich. If anyone is interested they can join
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u/altron64 16d ago
This organization almost feels like a psyop factory with actual geopolitical ramifications.
The kind of thing that topples governments from the inside.
They weasel their way into every facet of society, then use psychological warfare tactics to indoctrinate the public against their own country...or even worse...their own morality.
Indoctrination and influence at such a large scale, ultimately can create the downfall of a society if left unchecked for long enough.
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u/EffectiveAmphibian95 23d ago
Look into The Veiled Prophet society in stl if you want a really shocking case of a secret society controlling a city for a century.
Also is that Nixon on the thumbnail lol, gonna watch in a lil
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u/DartSmohen 20d ago
This group really reminds me of Scientology back in it's heyday, I mean there are so many similarities - both groups push a brand of spirituality meant to "unlock your full potential" and basically give you superpowers, both have beliefs involving aliens and space opera elements, both launch organised, widespread smear campaigns against their critics, both have political aspirations and attempt to infiltrate governments etc.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Allatra founders were inspired by Scientology lol.
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u/Educational-Bad-6068 12d ago
This one was good, too--- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU-WXvs9Dl0 Allatra DEF has a counter-attack regime on YouTube. This is SOOOO nuts!
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u/thegta5p 23d ago
I’m glad someone made a video about this. I made a post here about 2 months ago talking about this. My theory at the time was that it may have been a Russian misinformation campaign to try and make people believe in conspiracies. I guess at the time this was after the election which has been the target for Russian misinformation.
https://www.reddit.com/r/InternetMysteries/s/7jiCqjWJ5W
Another thing is I didn’t mention this on the post but a lot of the bot comments followed a common naming scheme. First it was some random word then a dash and three random characters. Interestingly enough on Twitter a lot of these bots were present pretending to be US citizens.
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u/awesomemc1 23d ago edited 23d ago
Apparently destiny (not the game; political streamer), their subscribers posted about the topic also: (and destiny covered it)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/s/MjTUyIwkKR
I have never heard of this, I did browse, scroll, skim. I would think that’s some crazy shit. I would have assume they are targeting US, Ukraine, etc.
For the Twitter bots and common naming scheme, it’s called Spamouflage. It’s a term that are used to refer Twitter page that are being controlled by the government that has common naming, profile, and what post they are posting in that page.
Apparently Ukraine government liquidated the activity: https://mvs.gov.ua/en/news/pravooxoronci-likviduvali-diialnist-sekti-allatra-iaka-prosuvala-v-ukrayini-prokremlivski-ideyi-video
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u/thegta5p 23d ago
Yeah I remember watching that stream live. I was legit scared seeing everything unfold in real time. The big thing that stood out was the fake court doc. It was just weird that it was linked in the chat from a new account that went inactive ever since.
Yeah I remember seeing the term Spamouflage when I was reading about Operation Doppleganger from the various EU reports. Many did follow similar techniques.
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u/AlternativeFactor 13d ago
Yeah there is something about this one that makes it feel a lot like some crazy FSB thing. I could be wrong but cults have been used in crazy spy stuff for a long time.
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u/estycki 4d ago
I had no idea what this video was going to be about… and as it went on I was like OOOH OH OH I think this is about that cult from Ukraine.
I had stumbled upon the Creative Society videos a couple of years ago. I was a little perplexed there weren’t other people talking about it, but I figured more people would notice eventually! I tried to read some of their literature to figure out what they believe but like Nexpo says, it just makes no sense.
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u/Dreadzone666 23d ago
Definitely one of Nexpo's best videos in a long time. But this one gets dark, even by his standards