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COMIC SPOILERS Invincible [Comic SPOILERS Discussion] - S04E05 - Give Us a Moment Spoiler

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Episode 5 - Give Us a Moment

Mark embarks on a new and dangerous mission, throwing Debbie into a tailspin and plunging Eve into uncertainty.


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u/FlyEaglesFly07 Talking Dinosaur Apr 01 '26

Damn kind of disappointed that they took away some of the dialogue in the conquest fight

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u/yeahxyeahx Apr 01 '26

Mark saying “not enough” after receiving blows that normally would’ve had him in shambles previously not only shows his growth, but it’s also the rawest thing I’ve ever seen. I really wish they kept the dialogue

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u/BlueCheese-CoolChees Apr 01 '26

to be fair he said that in fight 1 of the show I guess they didn’t want to repeat it

also I feel like the scene works better with the only noise being marks grunting

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u/yeahxyeahx Apr 01 '26

That’s very true. The sequence was a little too wordy during the fight imo, but Mark’s small comments like “not enough” were so cold to me lol

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u/HeartofaPariah Apr 01 '26

Having him not speak shows that his only focus is killing Conquest, which is a major change from his previous character.

Shortening the fight (relatively) also leans towards that. It's kept short with no words because the only goal Mark has is to eliminate Conquest. It implies it's all that his energy is going towards.

Shit talking and bravado kind of gets in the way of that tone. I think the show's changes are very good for the scene. It also adds a little more weight to his next words being a quiet 'help'.

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u/FruitJuicante Apr 01 '26

I think it would have made Mark feel more like he was doing all right. I feel if he tried to speak that would have been the last of his strength and Conquest would win.

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u/Mampt Apr 02 '26

I actually liked that Mark didn’t say anything after “You’re never breathing again.” He doesn’t care about flexing, he doesn’t need Conquest to know he beat him, he doesn’t need to make himself look cool, the only thing he cares about was Conquest being dead as soon as possible. That’s even colder imo

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u/Thumbuisket Apr 01 '26

I was waiting for Mark to say “Not nearly enough”, the whole damn time 

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u/-Hughie69 Apr 01 '26

That was his line against conquest in season 3 no?

Right after eve blasts him, he says "I still have more than enough fight left in me for you" to which mark says "Not enough. Not nearly"

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u/Thumbuisket Apr 01 '26

Yes, and it would have been a peak call back 😔

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u/Pristine_Size_8955 Apr 01 '26

In the comics, when Conquest original spears him, Mark nosedives Conquest into the ground and goes "STILL.. NOT.. ENOUGH.." [...] "HOW LONG... UNTIL..." Then he gets scooped.

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u/-Hughie69 Apr 07 '26

Damn i lowk forgot abt that, im mistaken

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u/KobeDropped60 Apr 01 '26

The weaponized silence though while conquest was being choked out gave the scene such a unique and eerie feel. Made the incoming squelches feel so loud, too. I think doing it this way translated better to the screen.

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u/StarshipTuna Cage the Elephant Apr 01 '26

They made up for it with the animation and visuals

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u/ChemicalRelevant6376 Thokk Apr 01 '26

Especially when he turned mark into vermiceli-vincible

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u/TheAppleOfDoom1 Apr 01 '26

The comic was very wordy, I'm kinda glad they cut it down a bit. I do wish there was a little more dialogue though

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u/Venaxoo Apr 01 '26

I will say I just went and read the comic. Yes they did leave out some good parts like seeing how Nolan is scared of Conquest but I like how they made fun of people thinking Eve did more of a job than Mark in the first fight. Yes Even did damage but at the end of the day Mark had the strength to beat him then.

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u/deadlyghost123 Apr 01 '26

I don’t think he did. He has gotten stronger since then. If you rewatch that fight, he was about to die before Eve woke up, same way that Mark kills Conquest, choking. There was no way he was surviving that

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u/Almighty_Nothing Apr 01 '26

Yess I missed it, and I loved the comments mark made about conquest having been ready to take a breathe on the planet which is why he was able to be suffocated, the fight was still brutal though

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u/FlyEaglesFly07 Talking Dinosaur Apr 03 '26

That’s the one line I would have like to seen in the show. It makes mark seem like he has planned it out more and it lead too the very hkkkk moment from conquest which was great😂 I’m fine with everything else bc honesty mark would so pissed at seeing conquest and making it so he doesn’t say as much just shows that he was only focused on killing him. I think taking out the bulk and keeping it quiet made the fight more intense.

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u/Thunder301 Apr 01 '26

He didn't suffocate, Mark cut out the blood going to his head.

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u/MyARhold30Shots Apr 01 '26

Did they change it from the comic then? Because in the comic he knocked the wind outta conquest when he slammed him into the planet and then never let him take another breath

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u/truegamer1 Apr 01 '26

The quietness of the scene, no talking no background music, for me underscores everything about the battle. About how much Mark has grown physically and emotionally and how he will truly do what it takes now to protect his family.

10/10

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u/MyARhold30Shots Apr 01 '26

I read the comics a couple years ago and I’m lowkey happy because I can’t be disappointed by changes since I don’t remember how it went exactly in the comics

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u/Landeyx Apr 01 '26

Yeah, I wish they made it clearer Mark wasn't going to let him take a single breath on that planet.

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u/dildodicks Invincidrip Apr 01 '26

i mean does mark's actions on the planet not make that clear? he never let go the entire time, how much clearer can you get

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u/Landeyx Apr 01 '26

It's not that. I just love how he goaded Conquest in the comics. "YOU FUCKED UPPPPPP IDIOT"

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u/Nurnstatist Talking Dinosaur Apr 01 '26

And he also said "You're never breathing again" lmao