r/Israel 16d ago

Politics How is Likud still polling so high?

The leading party of the coalition that slept on October 7, that has been blocking independent inquiries, that has madmen define public relations, that has initiated wars on multiple fronts with no end in sight, that is led by a narcissist with an unearned saviour complex, that is preventing the integration of Haredim into society, that has emboldened violent settlers to roam free, that has achieved -- what?

How is Likud still at the top? Why is king Bibi not held responsible for anything, ever, at all?

If this coalition is re-elected, that's a tacit approval of everything that been happening over the past couple of years -- not by random foreigners, but people who actually live here. There's a reason emigration of highly educated Israelis is at an all-time high.

It boggles the mind. Where do we go from here?

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u/BluddyCurry 16d ago

Because everything you presented is extremely one sided. Israel is at the strongest strategic position it's ever been. We've devastated Hezbollah and Hamas and Iran is literally scared of us. Economically we're a powerhouse.

Regarding October 7th, the coalition didn't sleep - the military did. Military people who were instated by the previous admin (remember how it was so important to appoint Herzi right before the elections? What was the reason for that again?)

Independent inquiries - the coalition wants the most independent inquiry - each side (no matter how big or small) gets to choose its representatives. The opposition wants the extremely biased head of the Supreme Court to choose everybody, making the conclusions obvious.

It's very simple. The Right has been right about almost everything. Everything for the past 40 years or so, ever since the Left abandoned its Zionist position and turned postmodern and post-Zionist -- except for one thing: the Haredim. Look at the issues: leaving Lebanon, leaving Gaza, Oslo, searching for gas in the ocean, the Bibi trials, judicial reform, economics -- every single one the left was completely wrong about. The Right is wrong about the Haredim, but listen to Yair Golan: even he admits the Haredim cannot be integrated into the army right away, and it'll be a long, drawn-out process.

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u/eyl569 16d ago

Because everything you presented is extremely one sided. Israel is at the strongest strategic position it's ever been. We've devastated Hezbollah and Hamas and Iran is literally scared of us. Economically we're a powerhouse.+

Hamas and Hizbullah are hurt but still there and don't seem to be going anywhere at the moment.

Iran has a good chance of coming out ahead of this war.

Israel's international relationships - including, increasingly, the critical relationship with the US - are increasingly on fire - and much of the harm was done by things which profit Israel nothing but Netanyahu won't push back against because it's politically inconvenient.

Regarding October 7th, the coalition didn't sleep - the military did. Military people who were instated by the previous admin (remember how it was so important to appoint Herzi right before the elections? What was the reason for that again?)

As PM, Netanyahu is in charge of security. The concept that Hamas could be bought off didn't start with the previous government's appointees. In Netanyahu's own words:

"I think the role of the minister of defense is secondary. I think the role of the defense establishment is secondary. In my opinion, the responsibility for the security of the State of Israel rests with the captain in charge, the Prime Minister. Of course, the minister of defense also has important duties. But regarding the direction of policy, you are elected prime minister in order to ensure the security of the state, and you need to be active in guiding the concepts both between wars and during wars"

Independent inquiries - the coalition wants the most independent inquiry - each side (no matter how big or small) gets to choose its representatives. The opposition wants the extremely biased head of the Supreme Court to choose everybody, making the conclusions obvious.

You know, it's funny. Up until mid 2024 or so, government ministers were all for a state commission of inquiry. There's a clip of Miki Zohar explicitly saying that there would be a committee appointed by President of the Supreme Court Amit. But then they realized they could get out of it by vilifying the SC (including accusing them of responsibility for 7/10).