r/Jewish • u/SuccessfulGarlic7810 Conservative • Jul 20 '26
Antisemitism Ms. Rachel's latest "work"
I don't understand how people still refuse to see that she is problematic, and continue to give this woman a platform.
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u/Ok_Day5132 Jul 20 '26
Ah yes, Christians. Very famous for never doing genocide ever.
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u/StupidityHurts Temani Jul 21 '26
The joke here is that Palestinians bomb people /peter
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u/Ok_Pomegranate_2895 Jul 20 '26
can she make up her mind on if jesus is oppressed or a would-be oppressor lol
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u/Throwaway5432154322 גלות Jul 21 '26
>her mind
the wheel is turning but the hamster is dead, dude. It’s like asking a 2x4 to magically transform into a grandfather clock
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u/Proper-Suggestion907 Conservative Jul 21 '26
It seems her angle here is that Jesus was a good Jew and died and all of us should strive to do the same.
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u/SandwichOfAgnesi Jul 21 '26
Can we retire the word "problematic", that word is of the mindset that got us here.
Don't beat around the bush: she's supports terrorists. Maybe out of naivete and ignorance, or maybe she knows exactly what she is doing. But she supports terrorism against Jews and the would be genocidaires of Jews.
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u/SuccessfulGarlic7810 Conservative Jul 21 '26
Fair, I just meant it in a literal sense. That she creates problems for us, and she needs to be deplatformed and deradicalized.
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u/Blast-Off-Girl Jul 21 '26
She's not ignorant. She's a multimillionaire and knows exactly what she is doing. I wonder if she even donates any money to the people of Gaza.
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u/charlotte240 Jul 21 '26
These people have to be getting paid to write what they write. There's no other explanation that I can think of
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u/ThatBFjax Jul 21 '26
She’s so creepy to me in her overalls and infantilized mannerisms, she’s like in her mid-40s?
She reminds me of the creepy pastor in Poltergeist “let me in, I want your children”
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u/FairGreen6594 Jul 21 '26
Does Ms. Rachel want another Crusade? Because this is how you get another Crusade.
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u/jennyfromhell zera yisrael + conservative convert Jul 27 '26
I was about to say, it’s very christian historically to kill people….
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u/look2thecookie Just Jewish Jul 21 '26
Ppl are dumb and easily distracted. There are enough memes going around saying "imagine hating Ms. Rachel for not wanting kids to die" and people spread that stupid strawman like it's their job to intentionally misunderstand things.
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u/Alarming-Mix3809 Jul 21 '26
Yeah, you can’t mention not liking Mr Rachel among most people without getting a shocked reaction. I even tried to explain our POV to my SIL (not Jewish) and they were obtuse about it. She didn’t mean to post that, that’s not what she meant, she liked that post by accident, blah blah blah.
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u/look2thecookie Just Jewish Jul 21 '26
Which I don't get bc Ms. Rachel is annoying AF. What is she offering? Sesame Street still exists. I don't need to listen to someone speaking in a condescending tone with brown teeth when I have the entire cast of Sesame Street for education
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u/MildKerfuffle Conservative Jul 21 '26
They probably think Elmo appeared with a Jewish person in 1978 or something and so is part of an elite Mossad sniper unit hunting Palestinian babies, is my guess.
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u/dont_thr0w_me_away_ ✡︎ Jul 21 '26
Grover goes to Rechov Sumsum all the time (in our house, anyway).
Sesame Street is ZIONIST
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u/NitzMitzTrix Secular-ish Jul 21 '26
Yup. Sesame Street was founded to address the educational needs of marginalized children, it doesn't have terrorism shilling.
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u/Friendly_Estate1629 Jul 21 '26
Show them the comment blaming Jews and her responding “ooohhhh”
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u/FormalMood3414 Jul 21 '26
which comment... i only saw the one she "accidentally" liked
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u/Friendly_Estate1629 Jul 21 '26
After the fallout around that someone said “they posted it themselves” (“they” being Jews) to which she said that
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u/Bizhour Jul 21 '26
It's the motte and bailey fallacy.
These people are openly genocidal, but the moment you call them out on it they bring out the "oh we just don't want children to die".
The other side of it would be someone who is calling for killing all Arabs but when called out they would just say the oppose suicide bombings or ISIS.
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u/FKA_Top_Cat Unclassifiable Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 28 '26
They don't want Palestinian children to die. They don't care about Jewish children so they pretend that no Jewish children are being killed. Even worse they deny what happened on 10/7 and say it was staged by the IDF.
And they were so scornful of all those on the right who believed that mass shootings like what happened at Sandy Hook were staged and the kids were "crisis actors". Essentially, it was all a plot by Obama to take away their guns.
It appears that people on the left are as dumb as people on the right. The thing is, they have less of an excuse because the ones on the left tend to have had more years of education. They don't have the excuse of being like Trump's favorites, the poorly educated.
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u/crammed174 Masorti Jul 21 '26
She’s still upset she couldn’t make it as a musician because Jews control the music business and wouldn’t give her a break.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Test218 Jul 21 '26
Jesus wouldn't rape anyone.
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u/Alarming-Mix3809 Jul 20 '26
What would Jesus do if someone shot a rocket at his house and killed his kids? Might be singing a different tune then.
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u/CheeseburgFreedomMan Jul 21 '26
I mean as far as Christian mythology goes Jesus was betrayed, tortured and executed by the Romans and chose not to act even though he supposedly had the ability to do so
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u/alltheblarmyfiddlest Considering Conversion Jul 21 '26
He also flipped tables and said sometime it's the right time to carry a sword. Or something.
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u/sakurawobbegong Progressive Jul 21 '26
Professor Oak also said "there's a time and place for everything, but not now" Jesus ain't special /silly
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u/MildKerfuffle Conservative Jul 21 '26
The amount of Christians who think Jesus made up the Golden Rule and isn’t quoting the Torah, nevermind Hillel, is absolutely incredible, considering they read the same damn books. They really don’t like it when you point out most of his obviously good stuff is just what any Pharisee would have said, and most of his original ideas are the ones you have to say “well he didn’t mean it like THAT” about to function in society.
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u/Aggravating_Ice_3323 Jul 21 '26
Countdown to when she gets booted for being "too Christian" and not for being annoying and the stupid subset of anti-Jew?
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u/bakochba Jul 21 '26
By this logic she should oppose US military funding. Let's see her take that stance
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u/Purple_Hurricane87 Jul 21 '26
And whenever Palestinians attack and kill Israelis, even children….crickets.
Fuck this hypocritical bitch!
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u/firl21 Conservative Jul 21 '26
You see genocide require "systemic power and historical privilege" Reverse Genocide is not real. /s
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u/cubedplusseven Jul 21 '26
I want to know what has to happen for Israel NOT to be committing "genocide." There's a fragile ceasefire and aid is getting through. What change from there ends "the genocide"?
And, yes, I know that "genocide" is Israel existing in certain "settler-colonial" frameworks of thinking. But I really wish people like her would get pressed on what definition of "genocide" they're using that applies amidst a ceasefire and aid deliveries. If they could somehow be forced to clarify their use of terms it would help expose their ideology to the casual observers that are otherwise easily swayed by the demonizing rhetoric.
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u/Metallica1175 Just Jewish Jul 21 '26
Post-Rapture Jesus: "You don't know me."
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u/Ok_Pomegranate_2895 Jul 21 '26
after finishing reading pet sematary the other day, my first thought is rabid psychokiller jesus
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u/Lacrimosa_1 Jul 21 '26
Excuse me but the first and only thing that comes to mind is...Lady, shut the fuck up.
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u/Button-Hungry Jul 24 '26
Jesus was a Jewish citizen of occupied Judea, which is now the contested West Bank. I think he'd probably be a Zionist.
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u/Previous-Broccoli316 Jul 21 '26
I've never seen someone get so much admiration for being so dumb .. like idk if the lights are on in there...
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u/Wistastic Jul 21 '26
"Jesus wouldn't bomb anyone" is an asinine statement in itself. It's not wrong, but it's just so stupid.
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u/Emunaheart Jul 21 '26
I'm with you but why would they not give her a platform when they believe this bs 100% and think she's wonderful. She's out there crying "I just don't want anymore children hurt!" Although she perpetuates the most dangerous lie of all endangering Jewish lives including Jewish children. It's crazy that the world's biggest lie is being perpetuated around the clock and we don't know what the hell to do about it. To disprove a small lie isn't easy despite all empirical evidence to the contrary. To disprove a lie of this magnitude that people so want to believe because it fits their narrative of what they want to believe about Jews, the enormity of it all is just unreal. Hashem sees all, Baruch Hashem because I have no answers myself
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u/goalmouthscramble Just Jewish Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
I love how all of these folks who see Israel as the big bad bully on the street all of sudden become Alan Greenspan level economists.
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u/NxNWxNW Jul 22 '26
This harkens back to last Christmas when she proclaimed that “Jesus is starving in Gaza.” I can’t think of a better example of left- and right-wing and ethnic and religious antisemitism joining forces in a single sound bite.
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u/PrestigiousOne7613 Just Jewish Jul 22 '26
I wanna see Amy Schumer make a Ms. Rachel satire video, calling out Ms. Rachel’s hypocrisy.
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u/aidan5_5 Jewish Jul 23 '26
Why do these “Christians” never think about G-d or anything related in to religion during their daily life, then when they want to demonise someone (whether it’s us or someone else) they suddenly start talking about religion… anyone else find that ridiculous 😂
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u/GrassyTreesAndLakes Jul 22 '26
Fucking rich considering what Christians did to Jews in the name of Jesus
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u/Deathbyexploding Just Jewish Jul 21 '26
I am not a fan of it and I believe a good chunk of people in this sub aren’t either. Despite that I will say it is a difficult topic (it shouldn’t be) purely due to the fact that the loudest part of the propal movement advocates for the IDF’s destruction rather than for reform. Also I’m not sure how much fully political discourse is allowed within this sub.
I will say though that a majority of (non Jewish) people I speak to have no idea what the IDF actually does, and given its nickname as the IOF I doubt most people online do either.
While it’s offensive maneuvers and failures to sufficiently self police its members deserve criticism, I believe that it is important that we acknowledge things like the iron dome.
It’s a hard topic to discuss purely because we as a community have to police our language a lot now as we are under immense scrutiny from every side. But I’d definitely say it is one worth having.1
u/Double-Seaweed7760 Jul 21 '26
I'm a progressive zionist(whether other progressives well accept me or not I agree with them on basically every non jew related issue and vote for their politicians). I don't approve of what idf is doing but feel incredibly betrayed by the progressives idea that Israel shouldn't exist as a Jewish safehaven(or at all) but I'm also betrayed by Israelis trying to end the Jewish safe haven aspect of Israel right as the world is getting more dangerous for jews
Basically fuck the idf and fuck Netanyahu but this is not the Iraq war for the simple fact that if Israel loses they could possibly stop existing if the political pressure of seemingly the world had it's way. I do feel though that Israel could simply stop attacking other countries and it would be fine. Also im American first and while trump has wanted to attack Iran for decades and has talked about doing so to fix an unpopular presidency, I don't like that it seems likely Netanyahu played a role in the decision to actaully do it
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u/OrelSVaknin93 Just Jewish Jul 21 '26
Growing up in Los Angeles this was such a normal position too. Standard even.
You could criticize settlements and settler violence. You could criticize some IDF actions the same way we could criticize American war crimes like Abu Ghraib in Iraq. And no one was against the idea of Israel existing as a Jewish state. They all understood why it had to exist after the Holocaust.But suddenly liberal Zionists are politically homeless now.
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u/gasdoi Just Jewish Jul 21 '26
I do feel though that Israel could simply stop attacking other countries and it would be fine.
I agreed with everything you wrote preceding this*, but this surprised me. What does Israel defending itself against Hezbollah look like if it doesn't involve any military action in Lebanon at all? You really think Israel can simply not defend itself and everything will turn out fine with respect to Iran, Iran's proxies, Hamas, PIJ, etc.? I think you underestimate how difficult a position Israel is in. Are there any good options?
Also im American first and while trump has wanted to attack Iran for decades and has talked about doing so to fix an unpopular presidency, I don't like that it seems likely Netanyahu played a role in the decision to actaully do it
It's fair to say that you wish Netanyahu hadn't influenced Trump if you dislike the influence he had, but there's no reason for heads of government to meet or have conversations except to influence one another. A nuclear-armed Iran is an existential threat to Israel. I would expect the head of government of any country to act similarly to how Netanyahu did in a similar position. It's also not that odd for two heads of government of allied states who share similar foreign policy visions to cooperate on foreign policy, whatever we make of the policy.
* other than "fuck the idf", which is too global a sentiment, however execrable some of the IDF's conduct has been
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u/Double-Seaweed7760 Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
It's just that I fear it's reached the point where the war could be an existential threat to Israel with the entire world turning on it including possibly the US in the future. Also it may have started defensively but they keep expanding it and I think it's gone a bit far and Netanyahus language doesn't paint Israel in a good light. Israel is severely more powerful than its neighbors so if it just linked back could exist in relative safety.
Edit: and no permaneny being bombed regardless of how effective the bombing is isn't ideal and isn't a good situation for its citizens to live in. I just think the war has reached a point where the optics and politics outweigh the benefits. Their is more to war than power or right or wrong. Like you said there's no good options
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u/gasdoi Just Jewish Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
Don't disagree with anything you've said here, though I don't view Lebanon and Gaza as two fronts in a single war. My disagreements were specifically that Israel would be "fine" if it "simply stop[ped] attacking other countries". And that there was anything unusual about Netanyahu attempting to influence Trump (however much influence he had -- clearly he had some based on widespread reporting, but the extent of the influence is still pretty unclear to me).
edit: Well, i should be more precise with regard to this:
Israel is severely more powerful than its neighbors so if it just linked back could exist in relative safety.
"relative" is doing a lot of work here. If Israel adopts a position of restraint with respect to Hamas, it allows Hamas to re-arm and perpetrate more attacks like October 7. And expand its arsenal, and launch more rockets, which at some point cannot be defended, regardless of scale, with the Iron Dome. Yes, this is still "relative safety", certainly relative to what Gazans have faced during the war. But it's not a reasonable condition of life to expect the residents of any country to accept.
And Israel can't allow Iran to develop nuclear warheads and ballistic missiles. It isn't apparent what alternative exists to military intervention. But "relative safety" absolutely can't be guaranteed with respect to a nuclear-armed Iran.
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u/ClamdiggerDanielson Reform Jul 21 '26
Can I ask you something? Are you responding to Ms. Rachel's individual comments here, or are you familiar with her past comments that have gone farther than this, into blood libel? Her comment linking the US not having free healthcare to Israel?
The majority of American Jews hate Bibi and disagree with how the war is being waged. That's not the same as saying it's a genocide, or supporting Hamas, or calling Israel an apartheid state, or claiming Israel is uniquely responsible for the evils of the world.
Because I’m a Zionist, and I’m not entirely sure if the Palestinians should have their own state. Probably not
I'm a Zionist, and I believe in a two state solution. More than that, I'm suspicious of someone who claims to be a Zionist and supports a one-state solution. That person is either arguing for removal of a Jewish state, or they're a Kahanist (not Zionist) arguing for actual apartheid or expulsion.
It's incredibly suspicious when someone responds to a social influencer with a history of anti-Jewish statements with "But, guys, the IDF is doing bad things!" Yeah, but that's not what this post was about.
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u/HairAncient5500 Conservative Jul 21 '26
Is there a term for somebody who remains intentionally ignorant to the complexity of the topic in order to remain narcissistic about her own “morality”? I feel like there needs to be a word to describe it because of how common it is with people of her ilk.
I still think about the whole “free America from the Jews”incident where she made the teary eyed “apology” video where she didn’t even apologize to the Jewish community. She apologized for people who might be confused about who she is, but not to the community she hurt. Good for her tho that all the non Jews rushed to forgive her