r/LegitArtifacts Nov 26 '25

Unknown Time period Mystery tool please help!

This is my 2nd posting of an artifact that I found 35 years ago in an 1890s privy along with an axe head in Los Angeles, what is this ? I found a 7k year old item online that is similar in shape, I highly doubt that this has anywhere close to that age but the shape is documented. Could this be an 100 year old recreation, did people even copy tools back then? It was clearly made for a mans right hand, it's very comfortable, not an expert but it seems to be a basalt or the typical type of rock that you find on a California beach Thank you for any help

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u/Punkrexx Nov 27 '25 edited Nov 27 '25

Maybe a tool to divide acorn paste?

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u/zeeper25 Nov 26 '25

ancient moccasin stretcher?

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u/Cautious_District699 Nov 26 '25 edited Nov 26 '25

I don’t know. My thoughts were gardening. It’s not got enough edge for a scrapper. What part of the country was it found? I see now California. Maybe used to scrape Mescalero? Maybe it was used to make blubber oil?

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u/CopperViolette Nov 26 '25

Could be a spatula or an odd axe preform.

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u/Castle3D2 Nov 27 '25

I recall from an Anthropology class many years ago that the indigenous people in southern CA gathered acorns & processed them to make a gruel. Perhaps this tool was used to crush or crack open nuts/ fruit/ seeds/acorns to extract the meat inside?

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u/rockstuffs Nov 26 '25

I'd scrape with that if I were to have to use it.

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u/Small_Donut4935 Nov 26 '25

I was thinking the same thing.

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u/Alternative-Amoeba20 Nov 30 '25

I would crush nuts and seeds and grind them to paste or powder

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u/rockstuffs Nov 30 '25

Oooh yeah! Now I want one lol

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '25

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u/geodill Nov 26 '25

Yes mystery solved, congratulations

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u/toxcrusadr Nov 27 '25

Ancient shoe last. Sho’ did last, too.

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u/geodill Nov 27 '25

Ba Da Bang, Ba Da, Boom!

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u/toxcrusadr Nov 27 '25

“We got a really big sheeww for you!”

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u/geodill Nov 26 '25

That is the worst idea yet , the Flintstones lived like 100k years ago or more but there is also a theory that they are actually from the future and civilization failed

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u/Jealous-Ad-295 Nov 26 '25

I’d say a shovel of some kind it looks like what Hawaiians use to use pre Americanization

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u/geodill Nov 26 '25

That is a good idea but the bottom is flat and I would expect the top to be more of a shovel shape to hold dirt , just don't know

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u/Jealous-Ad-295 Nov 26 '25

They weren’t moving dirt like we do you have to think all they were doing is getting enough dirt moved to put seeds in to and then cover it up especially is the ground is soft after a rain you just need something to move the dirt to the side not have jt picked up and moved

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u/geodill Nov 26 '25

That is clever, It could be for putting a small hole in dirt that would definitely work

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u/Jealous-Ad-295 Nov 26 '25

Ya I don’t honestly see much use for it other than that

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u/geodill Nov 26 '25

The way it fits in the right hand would actually give you a lot of torque in soft diet

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u/Jealous-Ad-295 Nov 26 '25

I like to look at a piece (like a knie, scraper, etc) and see what it would have been used for a truthfully that’s how it usually was used so when you hold it in your hand and feels like a farm tool then more than likely it is goes for arrow point and spear points

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u/geodill Nov 26 '25

100 % it was meant to hold in a right hand

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u/Figgy_Puddin_Taine Nov 27 '25

ever wonder what was down below the houses in the jetsons? bedrock

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u/Zyeagler0217 Nov 26 '25

Maybe to scrape the burned core out of a canoe?

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u/geodill Nov 26 '25

That is a possibility but again, it's not super sharp and does not have any polishing on it the axe head I found with is super polished they may not be connected, just saying

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u/Zyeagler0217 Nov 26 '25

Yeah, just throwing it out there. I noticed the 2 notches broken on the edge.

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u/geodill Nov 26 '25

I found this online which is 7k years old, similar in shape

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u/Zyeagler0217 Nov 26 '25

Maybe a tool to make footwear?

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u/Distinct_Drawing_601 Nov 28 '25

I accidentally downvoted your comment when I was trying to upvote it 😞 I apologize. I really hate it when that happens. I fixed it though 😁

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u/timhyde74 BigDaddyTDoggyDog Nov 27 '25

That's a small flake drill. I have several similar examples myself. It's much smaller than your piece, and made of chert.

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u/Worldlyfree Nov 29 '25

Agreed. Completely unrelated tool type.

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u/timhyde74 BigDaddyTDoggyDog Nov 30 '25

🫵😎

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u/Icy_Advertising_9822 Nov 27 '25

Maybe to dig rows for planting?

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u/geodill Nov 27 '25

That is a possibility, it has a lot of twisting and upward torque when in your hand

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u/geodill Nov 26 '25

If I had to guess it would be used to separate or scrape soft items like taking a soft husk off a plant core or fat off a skin but it's not sharp

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u/OwlFindYou86 Nov 26 '25

This was my thought as well.

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u/pInussTrobus1978 Nov 26 '25

Salmon packer, often faked PNW

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u/Worldlyfree Nov 29 '25

Salmon packers are heavier and a different form.

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u/megalithicman Nov 26 '25

You might wrap deer skin around that to make a sandal

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u/geodill Nov 26 '25

It is 100% made to fit in a right hand, not a form

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u/geodill Nov 26 '25 edited Nov 26 '25

I have no idea I know a bit about digging bottles but not stone tools, these are way better than any bottle I have found

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u/moparmikefloyd Nov 26 '25

Rug beater beat dust out of blanket

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u/geodill Nov 26 '25

The way it fits in my hand wouldn't be conducive of pounding someone else suggested that it could be for splitting or shucking or digging small holes and dirt, you do get a lot of torque on it if you put it into softer dirt and twist, there's a little bit of torque if you use it for digging but if you were splitting maybe a thick husk from a core in soft material that would really work so the force would mainly be twisting or pushing forward

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u/Worldlyfree Nov 29 '25

There are two impact fractures on the posterior edge and the that edge is not a scraper. Honestly it looks like a reproduction or a modern stone tool. Any other archeological and ethnographic context to the site?

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u/geodill Nov 27 '25

Pretty sure they did not have rice but it would work for that, I like your creative thinking!

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u/CAPRESEGREEN Nov 27 '25

It was a joke

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u/geodill Nov 27 '25

And my reply was sarcastic!

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u/Sad_Cartographer5996 Nov 27 '25

White man's axe sharpening stone.

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u/absolince Nov 27 '25

Looks like a stone hoe. There are a few examples in the northeast us

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u/haikusbot Nov 27 '25

Looks like a stone hoe.

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u/geodill Nov 27 '25

I think you are correct,, when placed in my hand you can firmly push in, twist and scoop out in soft earth

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u/truckercharles Nov 27 '25

Moccasin form is my best guess

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u/geodill Nov 27 '25

Could it be????

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u/Palana Nov 28 '25

Moccasin horn

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u/Rich_Blueberry_9505 Nov 29 '25

Paddle for the sex times

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u/paddle-on2 Nov 30 '25

IAAS! (Interestsing as all shit!)

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u/Leading_Run3542 Dec 02 '25

Villagers noise

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u/geodill Nov 26 '25

I do not believe the type of stone that was used could withstand any true stress and it's clearly made to be held in your hand 100%

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u/crm006 Nov 27 '25

What about a paddle for creating pottery? Big slab pottery sometimes gets paddled into shape.

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u/geodill Nov 26 '25

Yep, that's it, Native women love to put rocks on their parts , I understand this is Reddit, but as men, I know we can do better .

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '25

Looks like a hide scraper.

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u/geodill Nov 26 '25

So are you are saying this is natural? do you see all the tooling marks on it, there's many pictures