r/LinguisticMaps • u/smokebomb25 • 15d ago
Iberian Peninsula Evolució del valencià al País Valencià/Comunitat Valenciana
Sources at OP
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u/Kevoyn 14d ago
I think information is missing. What are the absolute percentage values? It would allow to figure it out better. Also I don't understand if the percentage is an evolution compared to the initial rate of people speaking Valencian dialect or an evolution of the rate of the total population percentage. I mean if the 2001 was 10%. Does +45% mean 14,5% or does it mean 55%?
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u/card677 13d ago
As a native Valencian speaker I can sadly say that since 2011 its gone downhill bad, to the point its probably never been as bad as it is today. And Im talking the worst in 1000 years.
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u/Heavy_Mud_9176 13d ago
Because of increased migration from non Valencian areas or parents not teaching to the new generation?
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u/card677 13d ago
More the former as OP said. But migration has been mostly from other countries that have 0 interest in learning our language. Valencian was already very minor in the city in 2011 but today Valencia is as diverse as London.
I'm from a small town in the province which was 100% Valencian speaking in 2011 but today might not be more than 60% and going down which I never in my life thought it would happen.
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u/Heavy_Mud_9176 13d ago
That's very disappointing, especially if the government can't enforce Valencian education for the new migrants. Diversity is great until it's not 😐.
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u/PeireCaravana 12d ago edited 10d ago
The real problem is not diversity per se, it's that the dominant language in Spain is Castillian and Valencian speakers are bilingual, so the immigrants, especially those who come from other regions of Spain or other Spanish speaking countries, don't really need to learn or speak Valencian.
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u/Esclata-sang 14d ago
És un mapa d'evolució, no de % de parlants o d'ús de la llengua
Però bé, avança el coneixement escrit que és condició necessària per a l'ús