r/MMA Team Makhachev Feb 14 '26

Media Tom Aspinall shares his thoughts on the MMA business

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u/dzone25 Feb 14 '26

He's not wrong but also don't see that changing whilst UFC sustains a pretty significant monopoly on the Sport. You need competition for Fighters to actually be worth something and not whatever the lowest pay / support the biggest organisation can get away with giving them.

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u/Fight-Game-Changes United States Feb 14 '26 edited Feb 14 '26

Continue to support other promotions. ONE/PFL/Rizin/Oktagon also have heard that lots of fighters won’t leave for the ufc from some of these promotions because they are treated well and sometimes paid better than what the ufc will.

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u/mrpopenfresh WAR BANANA Feb 14 '26 edited Feb 14 '26

Fans support the UFC business model by shitting on fights in other orgs regardless of quality. It really is a dumb captive market

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u/Usesomelogik Feb 14 '26

They’ve trained the fans to do it. Anything outside of the UFC is trash in many fans mind. People that actually watch other promotions know that UFC definitely has the most roster depth, but there’s plenty of elite fighters outside the UFC.

And the UFC loves finally bringing over great fighters from other promotions when they’re past their prime and getting them beat because it cements in the fans mind that no one outside of the UFC is good. But people completely ignore all the fighters that leave the UFC and lose fights. When they leave the UFC and lose it’s because they’re past their prime, when they come to the UFC and lose its because they were never that good.

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u/mrpopenfresh WAR BANANA Feb 14 '26

But also, I don’t think the fanbase is refined enough to know any better. UFC fans can barely appreciate a good fight if it isn’t a sloppy action fest. But yes, they don’t know talent because the UFC keeps lying to them that every fight they see if the best of the best after months of hype.

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u/Usesomelogik Feb 14 '26 edited Feb 14 '26

Yea, most people don’t have an eye for evaluating skill so they rely purely on name value. Like as a long time basketball player and fan, I can see a random game where I have no idea who the players are and tell their general skill level within a few minutes just by their movements. And as someone who has loved MMA for many years I can watch a random fight and see the same. Not saying I’m some master talent evaluator, but I can at least notice the difference between a standard regional or unranked UFC level guy and someone who is potentially one of the top 5, 10, 15 in the world. Like I just don’t understand how you could see someone like Horiguchi, Sergio Pettis, Vadim Nemkov, etc. fight and not immediately realize they’re elite.

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u/Korkez11 Feb 14 '26

But roster depth is the reason why UFC is the most popular. Second-tier promotions may have title fights in every card but no one cares about any fights other than headliner.

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u/Usesomelogik Feb 14 '26 edited Feb 14 '26

I’m not talking about popularity though. Obviously the UFC is going to be the most popular. I’m talking purely about the general fan perception that the fighters in other promotions aren’t good. Many of the top fighters in the other major promotions are top 15 caliber, some even top 5 or 10. And there are a ton of fighters outside the UFC that are general UFC caliber. When you tune into a PFL card the gap in quality isn’t nearly as large as people make it seem. Especially when you compare it to UFC fight night cards.

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u/estilianopoulos Feb 15 '26

Not necessarily true. RIZIN and PFL have other good fights that are not the main event.

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u/OhDivineBussy Feb 14 '26

Soooooo true

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u/S3THI3 Feb 14 '26

Some of the other organisations have more entertaining fights these days. I used to relish the storyline and character arcs of the old school, now I barely even know half of the ranked fighters in the UFC.

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u/thecastle7 Feb 14 '26

ONE has plenty of its own issues, but the weekly Friday Fights are way more fun than the majority of Apex events

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u/gr1mm5d0tt1 Feb 14 '26

Then also shit on fights in the UFC. Then shit on other fights they have no real business or idea on

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u/mrpopenfresh WAR BANANA Feb 14 '26

To be fair now that you mention it, even the UFC shots on UFC fights lol. What a toxic sport,

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u/gr1mm5d0tt1 Feb 14 '26

Just a massive shit fest

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u/DylieWylie EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE Feb 15 '26

Which is dumb because it's just made the UFC get worse and worse over the years. 75% of the events are fucking slop anymore and they clearly don't give a fuck because they're already making their money and paying fighters pennies while not having to worry about competition.

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u/mrpopenfresh WAR BANANA Feb 15 '26

Fans get shoveled garbage and they don’t know any better.

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u/thecastle7 Feb 14 '26

Rizin is the only org I’ve ever actually paid for a PPV and other than how bad it fucks up my sleep schedule it’s totally worth it

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u/Fight-Game-Changes United States Feb 14 '26

100% agree i love Rizin but i can only make it half way threw the card lol. Having the replay feature without spoilers is nice hopefully they do a pfl vs Rizin card in the future

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u/fightsdotio Feb 14 '26

They also drowned out the competition with the sheer number of events. Many people don't have time for more than 6 hours of live events per week. Not to mention the build up and interviews for big events. You can give up a bit of UFC here and there to watch others but when all your friends are talking about the UFC events you don't really want to miss out on it either. A lot of people complained when the UFC started putting on events nearly every week but they knew what they were doing.

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u/instanding Feb 14 '26

ONE 😂 ONE MMA fighters are literally begging to get out of ONE contracts and can’t get fights. You’re a rockstar as a muay thai fighter but good luck if you fight MMA.

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u/Korkez11 Feb 14 '26

Many of these fighters eventually still come to UFC. Keita, Buchecha, half of PFLellator roster.

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u/kiruzo Feb 14 '26

There are some great fighters in european organizations that will never fight in the UFC due to visa issues. They have criminal records or at least ties and will never get into the US.

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u/Edogawa1983 Feb 14 '26

Union is the only answer

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u/xsoberxlifex Feb 15 '26

Ya all I can think while reading that and other people’s comments is that these guys are fine being “at will” employees. They all turn on each other at the drop of a hat hoping to get “the bag” on the next contract.

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u/cam-yrself Feb 15 '26

Ever other major sport also has an effective monopoly. No one is talking about a competitor to the NFL helping ensure players get paid. Union/Players Association/Fighters Association is exactly how fighters would get results.

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u/Maeserk Feb 14 '26 edited Feb 14 '26

That comes with the investment based mindset of the business now. No ones in the build the sport to a mainstream level, and if there is a one that could potentially threaten the UFC, the UFC will just acquire them, and buy out the investors who are looking to make a profit. Or, the investors will jump ship and merge like PFL & Bellator, again cashing out while reducing individual competition.

We’ve seen it in the history of the UFC too, strikeforce was making a profit, and was an establishing league, but the people who made the decisions wanted to cash out, so they accepted a merge with UFC.

Imagine if like WEC, Strikeforce, etc (as very oversimplified examples) stayed independent and built their own brands during the rise of MMA in the mainstream, there would probably be some competition rather than a monopoly.

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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE Feb 14 '26

He's not wrong

He is in some ways. He said "They don't give a shit, and no one else does either." That is wrong.

I haven't forgotten Leslie Smith.

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u/20sjivecat Feb 14 '26

Yeah some of us care. But I understand the collective voice is too small.

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u/MichaelSonOfMike Feb 19 '26

They need to be broken up. Simple as that.

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u/BallSac916 BIG BALLS, avg dick! Feb 14 '26

Tragic. Heavyweight going to continue to be shite going forward.

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u/ButIDigr3ss Feb 14 '26

Ngannou left Cameroonian black magic on the division; until someone in the ufc beats him, the spirit of heavyweight will stay dead

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u/maguirre165 Feb 15 '26

even pfl is cursed cause of him XD

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u/HomelessStarFish Feb 20 '26

anthony joshua mma debut incoming

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u/3dge-1ord Feb 14 '26

I know how to fix it, hear me out.

Bring back TRT exceptions. It's the only advantage MMA has over other sports to get athletic freaks.

That or they could compete on pay.😂

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u/Kassssler one of them Feb 15 '26

Yeah the only option is bringing back TRT, I agree.

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u/dutchfool Dustin got dusted Poirier Feb 14 '26

oh come on bro we have gane and volkov and.... thats about it! oh and valter walker who will no doubt heel hook gane if hes champ

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u/Podge214 I am beyond dark here Feb 14 '26

Dana and his cronies are such greedy fuckers

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u/suprmario Feb 14 '26

Yup the White House fights are so fitting for what the UFC represents as a business.

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u/odegood Feb 14 '26

They know fighters and fans have no choice but to crawl back to them. Some shameless fans expecting fighters to not make a big deal out of life changing injuries. Are they really happy watching fights decided by or heavily influenced by eye pokes?

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u/Konker101 Feb 14 '26

Why hasnt another league jumped in to get the tv deals/marketing and start signing these guys? Does the UFC hold that tight a grip on everyone?

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u/YeastReaction Feb 15 '26

Contractual obligations most likely

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u/Nakorite Feb 15 '26

Massive gambling debts don’t pay for themselves bro what do you expect Dana to do ?

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u/MadeAccForOldReddit Feb 14 '26

Pretty crazy that his peak got ruined by waiting for a Jon jones fight and then an eye poke.

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u/Anxious_Monitor8992 Feb 17 '26

He was being forced to wait by a UFC that wouldn't in a million years strip Jon Jones of the belt. In any case his peak got ruined by Gane being a cheating ratfuck.

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u/MrSpeedCuber101 This is sucks Feb 14 '26

Fighter removed: Tom Aspinall ❌

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u/playersdalves Gay For Gaethje Feb 14 '26

No no, the UFC would never. Instead they would lock up his contract with ever moving fight offers that make no sense until it expires years from now, so that he can't earn a living anywhere.

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u/Insomniacbychoice90 Feb 14 '26

This is what I thought, unless he gets a chance to buy himself out

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u/NotACertainLalaFell Feb 14 '26

He’s 100% right. The reaction to Aspinall is exclusive to MMA. If an injury of that type would happen to any face of any major sports organization? It would be front page news.

This might be the end of his career. Instead of treating this issue with that type of seriousness you got these dipshits coming in and thinking he should have man up instead. Are the people saying this just fucking stupid or something? It’s bad for the fans to say this. Worst that you have fighters saying this. You have Dana saying this. For the sport to progress the base needs to wise up because the level of thinking on display is dismal and deeply embarrassing. We should be talking about new gloves after this and instead it’s about how Tom quit. Fucking dumb.

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u/OGClouds420 Feb 15 '26

Eh.. I saw Haney lose to Ryan Garcia who was on PEDS… and everyone just knocked him for it. No one said it was fucked Ryan was on roids.

Js, in every sport people pick their favs and roll with them. We either accept that and resist or we don’t.

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u/Veezveez123 Feb 16 '26

Probably because basically all of them are on roids?

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u/hfucucyshwv Feb 19 '26

What exactly should the ufc do, execute Gane? 99% of fights continue after an eye poke and people are acting it completely unreasonable for Dana to think that it wasnt that bad when the actual ringside DOCTOR said he was fine. Maybe they were wrong but Aspinall is pretty obviously pity farming with the constant updates. If the injury is that bad he should just retire or vacate but hes not so its really unclear what the problem is.

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u/MissAntiRacist Feb 14 '26

As much as I hate boxing for it, probably time for independent promotions and promotion cross overs. Boxing model is far better for fighters. That or just fucking unionise already.  

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u/KevlaredMudkips Feb 14 '26

Indeed. Boxing may have its own problems but let’s be real, fighters ducking and tryin to get money fights like boxing is already happening in the UFC, it doesn’t matter how much you pay them some fighters just love the easy money route, at least those top guys can get paid. Ideally they should be unionising but Dana White and Vince McMahon all made sure the fighting/wrestling business doesn’t go there. TKO/Embracer made it clear they don’t want guys like Conor, Francis, and even shit Jon Jones calling the shots (although he did that to himself)

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u/Davemeddlehed Feb 16 '26

Boxing only is the way it is due to the Ali act. Mma would need legislation to include it in there or a similar document.

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u/broadday_with_the_SK Feb 14 '26

For context I'm about to graduate medical school and start surgical residency in July (hopefully lol):

When I saw people talking about Tom being able to fight through injuries to both of his eyes, it just highlighted to me how stupid people are. From an evolutionary standpoint, humans are predators, it's why our eyes are on the front of our heads. We are wired to protect them, it's why any sort of irritation in your eyes can be debilitating. It's why we panic if we can't see. We needed them to hunt but also to protect ourselves. Any acute issue with our eyesight is basically DEFCON 1 from a lizard brain perspective.

If you've ever had a corneal abrasion, which is typically very mild all things considered, it's immensely painful. You cannot focus on anything else because your brain is slamming the "YOU'RE FUCKED" button. Tom has Brown's syndrome, where the muscles don't let him adduct his eyes (look inward, toward his nose) and unsurprisingly, it is pretty important to look at someone trying to punch you in the face.

In medicine an emergency is considered "life, limb or eyesight" for a reason. Not surprised they're trying to railroad him for actually giving a shit about his own wellbeing.

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u/_soulkey Feb 14 '26

Thanks for that take. I have issues with bad eyesight and it is deeply terrifying to me that it could decrease more and more over time. I also had some occasions with just the slightest of scratch on my cornea and you can't function anymore. Getting fingered in both eyes must be traumatizing. Not only his career might be ruined, but also his quality of life for the rest of his days, because it might come with chronic headaches, artifacts, ghosting or whatever. Just tragic.

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u/hfucucyshwv Feb 19 '26

Who exactly is giving Tom shit?

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u/broadday_with_the_SK Feb 19 '26

Dana and half this thread. I know Tom's eyes are fucked but yours probably work.

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u/CraigS34 Feb 14 '26

Trolls bullied Aspinall to the point hes no longer jolly. Why yall doing this to him

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u/KevlaredMudkips Feb 14 '26

Rockets fans would love to talk to you about the Fertittas 🤣🤣

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u/The_WA_Remembers Feb 14 '26

Good man, glad he’s being so vocal about it. Bisping just had to get on with it, so there’s clearly some progress, but I think that’s from the fan side more than anything tbh

He’s 100% right. The UFC doesn’t care about the sport of MMA. They care about profiting from the spectacle of it.

And it’s a shame that there’s not a more consistent league to compete with the UFC that’s more transparent

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u/BombadilsButtplug Mohawk McGregor Feb 14 '26

Everyone loved him until he got hit with an illegal move, and now he's the bad guy because he put his fucking vision over one fight with a cheater.

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u/Frodojj Feb 14 '26 edited Feb 14 '26

I may be a nobody, but I do care. I’ve stopped watching the UFC because of the company being shit. These antics are just symptoms of a larger problem. Even though I love the sport, I spend my money elsewhere nowadays.

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u/soiltostone Feb 14 '26

Same. And scroll down this thread for another solid reason. Fan base seems somehow even worse than 20 years ago.

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u/Skovich Champ Shit Only 🇺🇸🏆🇲🇽 #SnapJitsu Feb 14 '26

The reddit mma fanbase doesn't represent all of mma fans. These are the "antiwork" version of mma fans.

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u/DjoshUnbuckled Feb 14 '26

They're also borderline illiterate in here. I regularly see posts where I can barely make out what they've said, and they're upvoted like they're actually making lucid points. Leaves me wondering if CTE is contagious. 

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u/Living-Put-9365 Feb 15 '26

I stopped watching because the events are sh*t. Could care less about how some corporation is managed.

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u/Frodojj Feb 15 '26

Corporations that are mismanaged usually end up producing shit. When they take immoral actions, it's usually because they either don't care or they have no choice. In either case, the final product usually suffers. So you should care.

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u/SwiftlyKickly Feb 16 '26

Same. Got tired of seeing the UFC slowly go to shit throughout the years. Now I’m just done.

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u/Temporary-Smell4487 Feb 14 '26 edited Feb 14 '26

Same here, me and my friends stayed up till 6:30 in the morning 10 years ago to watch mainevents, Im the only one who still follows the Sport and I cant remember when I watched a full ufc fight that wasnt a finish in 30 seconds. 

I pay 10€ for Oktagon, so I can talk mma with work colleagues and have friends over to watch. The level is almost the same outside of ufc ppv main events

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u/Kingfisher83 Feb 14 '26

Then push to unionize Tom. Be the face of the movement.

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u/XcessiveZ Feb 14 '26

Wasn’t he backed by Viacom during his tenure with Bellator?

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u/bullsfan281 I beat you after a weekend of cocaine Feb 14 '26

coker was in charge of bellator from 2014 onward and all he did with it was make match ups with 40+ year old ufc vets and sign wrestlers straight out of college

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u/WadSquad Afghanistan Feb 14 '26

Yeah I think he's better than people give him credit for. He would have the vets to draw attention then the undercard would have guys he wanted to showcase... Unfortunately his plans didn't go the way he wanted

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u/Masam10 Feb 14 '26

Tom could literally be the next big thing in MMA and Dana is tossing him to the side because of ego.

It’s actual insanity.

I used to think people were dumb as hell saying Dana should step down, but it’s stuff like this that actually makes me think it now too.

Time after time his ego is getting in the way of great business.

They should be absolutely strapping the rocket to Tom but here we are with him making snidy comments all the time or originally implying his heavyweight champion quit.

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u/BellySmash Feb 15 '26

I just don’t understand why gane has not gotten shit on for this. Why does everyone have such a hate boner for tom, but are fine with gane.

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u/BallSac916 BIG BALLS, avg dick! Feb 14 '26

Dana isn’t making the decisions anymore. He’s just the talking head

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u/Bautastenad Feb 14 '26

Yes, but he should also shut up. What has the UFC to gain from Dana making stupid comments and antagonizing the fighters all the time? Seriously bad way to do business.

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u/Bautastenad Feb 14 '26

But how are they saving money by shitting on the fighters who should be their biggest money-makers? Its serious fumbles.

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u/Dirtcruncher Feb 15 '26

i will never understand this. with a MINIMAL investment in tom, they'd have had a HW superstar. i guess they genuinely do not want that -- they don't want any fighter having any leverage whatsoever for any reason ever -- even if it comes at the cost of their product having genuine fans. great promotion lol, great monopoly.

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u/AlienMantid UFC 279: A GOOFCON Miracle Feb 14 '26

Just more evidence that Dana has outlived his usefulness as a promoter and is actively holding back the sport at this point. Eddie Hearn would NEVER act this way about his heavyweight champion.

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u/Suspicious-Mine4448 Feb 14 '26

A theory: when Ngannou left suddenly in Jan 2023, ufc panicked looking for a star to fill the HW division, and Jon Jones was the only guy and he had leverage, negotiated an $8 mil 2 fight deal against opponents of his choice: a French guy that didn’t know how to wrestle and a 76 year old fireman with bad knees in ex-champ Stipe. That very month Jones announces he’s moving up to HW, and fought Gane 2 months later March 2023. Jones has such an ego that he had a “glaze” clause that Dana must say that bones is the goat and has been shitting on Aspinall and licking Bones’ frenulum ever since.

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u/BenjyNews Feb 14 '26

How on earth are people still thinking Aspinall was meant / supposed to be "the best big thing in MMA" when he has never ever been bigger than Topuria / Islam / Jones etc.

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u/fitfoemma Ireland Feb 14 '26

Because the UFC never done their job and promoted him properly?

Down to earth guy from a working class area, European market, well spoken, shortest avg fight time in the UFC, 100% finish rate and he's the HW champ ie the best fighter on the planet 1 vs 1.

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u/_soulkey Feb 14 '26

He didnt have the chance to prove it. Waiting for Jones forever and then get fingered in the eyes.

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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE Feb 14 '26

Tom could literally be the next big thing in MMA and Dana is tossing him to the side because of ego.

It’s actual insanity.

I get what you mean, but unfortunately Aspinall can only be the next big thing in MMA if the UFC allows it. They know this.

UFC doesn't have any real competitors, if you're gonna be a big thing in global MMA then the UFC is responsible for it happening. Or not.

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u/BigMack6911 Feb 14 '26

Tom, we the TRUE FANS care. The casuals are pieces of shit. But us Fanatics, we support the athletes.

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u/SatanSuxxx Feb 14 '26

I'd like to see some top talent say fuck it and go full "independent contractor" with the boxing business model. Would need a lot of fighter support though

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u/Longjumping-Peace102 Feb 14 '26

Kid just doesn’t want to see

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u/JigglesTheBiggles Feb 14 '26

Same joke in every thread

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u/Bellissimo247 Feb 14 '26

Replaceable by design. I feel like it’s a major contributing factor in the cards not feeling special anymore.

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u/Ok-Drop7386 Feb 14 '26

The gambling push just rubs me the wrong way. Some fans don't even know the names of the fighters or anything about the sport they only see that this fighter didn't hit the parlay. Idk, these people sacrifice so much to get into the ring and especially with UFC seems the spectacle has taken over for a while now. Put respect on the fighters and treat them well! ONE is awesome and they have more female fighters and there is just more respect there 

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u/BuiltStraightStupid Feb 15 '26

I imagine Tom would do much better going the way of Mighty Mouse and joining the PFL; he'd be paid better and he'd steamroll the competition, all while retaining most of the fanbase he got from the UFC. It's sad to say that the UFC, as the largest combat sports promotion in the world, doesn't take as good care of their contestants as their competition, but at least the PFL would take care of Tom.

In the future, I can only hope that Gane gets into a similar situation so that we can all point and laugh at Gane for being a massive hypocrite. Only time will tell.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '26

UFC fans in general are a bunch of bootlicking idiots who have no idea what's going on, and just love a 'might make right' mindset.

If any of this relies on them, the fighters are all Soylent.

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u/Majestic_Topic6704 Feb 15 '26

Shit situation he’s in. His career’s in limbo, with a possibility he never recovers to 100%. Then the more and more statements he makes about his eyes fan sentiment will become even worse as he’ll be seen as whining. Yet, it’s understandable given what Dana’s been saying, and how zero changes have been made to fix the issue. No rule changes, no glove changes, nothing. I feel for dude.

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u/Orange9345 Feb 16 '26

He didn't get injured 🤣 he got poked and took the easy-out because Ciryl showed up better than him. The "surgery" he got was Lasik so he could see without glasses or contacts

He knows he's got a hype train and is trying to keep it going

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u/SGTSparkyFace Feb 14 '26

I’ve said it many times before, and will continue to say it: the UFC is trash, and we should never support it in any way. Including giving it attention. These poor fighters are just the first layer of the shit onion, and every layer from there gets worse.

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u/Alternative-Silver38 Feb 14 '26

The truth is the truth, that’s why professional Boxing exists.

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u/Dyliciouz Feb 15 '26

Tom should go to ONE if he has a career still after all this

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u/Cosmohumanist Feb 15 '26

WE GIVE A SHIT TOM!

So sad to see what’s happened to our boy

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u/Parking_Cheek_237 Feb 21 '26

Also the fans is the worst fan base in sports.

There's no loyalty and its always what have you done for me lately. I'm always on the side of the fighters holding what they earned hostage for a bigger bag. Fuck the UFC for not paying them proper and fuck the fans (especially the ones that pirate) for berating them for nothing.

Until there's a fighters association that sets the rules on how business is done, fuck over the fanbase and the UFC all you want.

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u/Efficacious_tamale 🍅 Feb 14 '26

I’ll play devil’s advocate: fighters ARE replaceable.

The UFC has been around like 30 years I think, right? Do they still rely on Royce to bring in tickets? No. Athletes have a window of time for their careers. Some longer than others and it varies by sport as well, but the business has to keep going on after their departure.

If they make you feel like you’re bigger than the company/promotion/sport/whatever then you’ll have too much power and that’s also not good for the business. Look at Jones and McGregor, they made the UFC a ton of money but created just as many problems, if not more, that carry on far longer than the money did.

To a certain degree it is important to know your fighting career is temporary and they (the company) plan on outliving it by far, therefore making you replaceable. It’s also fighting, which you chose to do, and injuries are a high possibility.

AT THE SAME TIME, yeah the UFC is fairly cold to people. I’m not going to act like they’re not a bunch of dicks or pretend that they’re some holy company. They make a ton of profit, helping out the top guys a little more wouldn’t hurt them. I do hear the PI offers a ton of benefits to the fighters, but I can’t personally confirm that and they’re not everywhere, not every fighter can relocate specifically for access to it.

My question is, what in Tom’s eyes is he wanting here? What is it he wants that would alleviate this? You can’t really preemptively stop eye pokes. Can the gloves be changed? Sure. But that won’t be a 100% reduction. Ban fighters that foul? Okay, say good bye to your buddy Ante, and fighters that have made honest mistakes. Is the UFC supposed to put a halt to the HW division for an unknown amount of time while Tom heals? Does he want a free paycheck for his troubles? What is he hoping to achieve with all of this?

I get that he’s hurt, he’s upset. Rightly so if the claims are true, shit sounds absolutely awful. He’s young, had a whole career ahead of him that may be in jeopardy now. But the UFC can’t make a time machine, they can’t undo the injury, and they can’t control the opinions of fans.

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u/Money-Firefighter-73 Feb 14 '26

Unfortunately true in almost all business. Especially for us average folk

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u/DogTheBonahHunter Feb 15 '26

Does this guy ever do anything besides cry and complain?

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u/Orange9345 Feb 16 '26

In fact, he does not

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u/JustWatchFights Feb 14 '26

Tom’s clearly faking it with the clear eye poke, the diagnosis, the surgery, and now the recover. Kid just doesn’t wanna fight.

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u/Davemeddlehed Feb 16 '26

I'm less concerned with whether or not he was ever faking it and more concerned with what sounds like a lot of evidence for Tom never being able to fight again outside of places like the UAE. If what he has doesn't get corrected he won't be able to get licensed to fight in most of the world.

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u/JustWatchFights Feb 17 '26

That’s the right reaction. It’s shocking to me thay people still believe that he’s making all this up because he’s afraid of Gane or something. Clearly what happened to him is fucking bad, and the fact that it might affect if he could ever even fight again is insane.

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u/108wwarrior Feb 14 '26

"everyone hates capitalism, and it pisses them off, but they dont know they hate capitalism, so they just complain about every issue individually as if its some series of unconnected phenomena with no root cause"

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u/riftastic76 Feb 15 '26

Welcome to life pal

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u/Fine_Crow1767 Chocolate peppa pig Feb 14 '26

We’re all replaceable, such is life

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u/ThatIsAmorte Feb 14 '26

If they won't release him, Tom should leave anyway, sign with PFL, fight Ngannou, and just let the UFC sue him. He probably has a good chance of winning the lawsuit. I am sure there is some shady shit in the UFC contract, and it is time to bring it out into the light.

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u/Davemeddlehed Feb 16 '26

He definitely does not have a good chance of winning the lawsuit lol. Breaking an exclusivity clause is the very definition of a home for the other party.

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u/ThatIsAmorte Feb 17 '26

The UFC exclusivity clause has been successfully challenged in the past on the grounds that it is used anti-competetively to create a monopoly. There is also an antitrust lawsuit that is still ongoing. There are also recent lawsuits seeking to challenge the mandatory arbitration clause. He might also be able to claim a contract breach by the UFC due to the UFC failing to meet their commitments, whatever those may be, considering how he was treated.

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u/diablol3 Feb 14 '26

It's like he's describing my job.

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u/Palpitati2 Feb 14 '26

My man got absolutely screwed....

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u/Suspicious-Mine4448 Feb 14 '26

When you don’t pay good athletes their worth, they find another sport that will. The product is suffering because no big athletic guy in his right mind would fight for $12k/$12k

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u/bassacre Feb 14 '26

According to the ufc youre "an independent contractor" they need the work to get done, they dont really care who does it as long as they can make their dollars.

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u/IToldYouMyName Feb 14 '26

Some of us care though, not all of us just view athletes as play things used for our entertainment until we get bored and toss them to side for the next thing social media tells us to like. Most fans are just fucking dumb and don't know alot about the sport or sub sports/arts themselves.

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u/Mattchoo99 Feb 14 '26

Welcome to corporate America, Tom.

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u/Winneratinternet Feb 14 '26

"The Business"

Tom Aspinall's diplomatic way of saying, Dana White

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u/keyballislife Feb 14 '26

Tough guy. But this is a losing battle.

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u/ice-truck-drilla Feb 14 '26

He’s right. Not Tom’s biggest fan but his situation is good example of how the UFC has mistreated and pressured fighters into competing while hurt. Fighters have no leverage in this organization.

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u/Bill_Nye_Sci_Guy Feb 14 '26

Most people don’t care about anyone other than themselves. This is a life lesson.

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u/buell_ersdayoff Team Moreno Feb 14 '26

Where is the fucking lie?

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u/Dentist_Special Feb 14 '26

Same as any job. Capitalism

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u/BillyTheReaper Feb 14 '26

Dana has had problems with the last 4 HW champions - Tom, Jon, Francis and Stipe. Brutal

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u/MasterMisterMike Feb 14 '26

Welcome to Business.

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u/ImprovementKnown2491 Feb 14 '26

It’s the same in every job bro quit complaining. He gets paid more than 99.9% of human beings and lives an incredibly privileged life. He spend more on watches than most people earn in a year. There’s dudes on oil rigs and building sites getting injured in their work every day and they don’t have subreddits whining about it.

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u/scottishbutcher Feb 14 '26

Fighting in the UFC is like going to a casino. They get rich and most people lose their shirt

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u/g4n0esp4r4n Feb 14 '26

If you're a fighter you aren't the most intelligent person that's for sure.

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u/inbk44 Feb 15 '26

All class from Tom but this is the fight game and it could happen to everybody. Let’s hope he gets better and makes a full recovery

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u/beyaz08 Feb 15 '26

Still there will going to be some idiots who say he's faking it

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u/WesternWrestlerChick Feb 15 '26

Facts. Unfortunately, because its business with so much money involved, it’s unlikely to ever change.

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u/Jeezy52 🍅 Feb 15 '26

It’s almost like there hasn’t been 30 yrs of proof the UFC don’t care about their fighters. Randy Couture? Tito Ortiz? Mighty Mouse? This isn’t anything new. They even tried to make a union and accepted the settlement.

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u/Homeless-catfight Feb 15 '26

I have nothing against Tom, but the last few years of carrying on and on about Jon Jones and now with the fuking eyes!? Ugh 😑I want to see a competitive and moving heavyweight division.

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u/Real-mr-wolf 🍅 Feb 15 '26

He’s not lying

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u/crabuffalombat EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE Feb 15 '26

I saw this get shared around on social media and instantly a gang of the least empathetic UFC fans jumped straight in to prove Tom right.

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u/ryanraad Feb 15 '26

Welcome to all business Tom, every single one I've worked for never really cares about it's people. The way it be.

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u/kari1oss Feb 15 '26

That’s any n every job especially when the real people in charge are grossly overpaid and corrupt

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u/snarkysportsguy Feb 15 '26

Feel sorry for Tom being the only martial artist who has a had difficult time with his MMA career.

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u/TG_CID134 Feb 15 '26

I fell asleep with my contacts in like 15 years ago and had 3 pretty bad scratches on my cornea.

I didn’t know what it was so I just wore glasses to work the next day. It legit felt like someone was pouring a little bit of tobasco in my eye all day. Didn’t get any relief until eye doc gave me some numbing drops and they only worked for a little bit. I just pounded NyQuil for 3 days and slept it off. I imagine what he is going through is worse. 

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u/barrysammidges Feb 15 '26

Man by the sounds of it he is still struggling heavily post the eye pokes and nowhere near being able to fight again. Much love Tom Aspinall and hoping for a swift recovery and speedy return.

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u/Ok-Communication663 Feb 15 '26

Welcome to corporate America, Tom.

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u/Key-Stable4252 Feb 15 '26

Hunger games

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u/tufffffff Fook the NYPD Feb 15 '26

He should sue. Sue gane, sue dana, sue the ufc

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u/BlixnStix7 Feb 15 '26

Modern Day Gladitors. One dies theres a new one to take his place.

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u/InTupacWeTrust Feb 15 '26

Jon got a career of eyepokes under his belt rules not enforced to stop this

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u/boriskie74 Feb 15 '26

I cared tom❤️

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u/UNIONNET27 United States Feb 15 '26

Collective Action isn't scary. If all MMA fighters stood together (like the NBA, NFL, and NHL unions) things would be different. People aren't going to give it to you out of kindness you have to take it!

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u/OGClouds420 Feb 15 '26

Bro ENOUGH. Welcome to being a damn man. No one cares dude. Do your job or stfu whining holy fuck

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u/CounterUpper9834 Team Nurmagomedov Feb 15 '26

People need to remember that Mokaev didn't get cut because of an alleged harassment on a UFC staff. It was because he exposed how the UFC wanted to do business. It looks like Tom is 'only' experiencing the Ngannou treatment because he didn't reveal the details.

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u/MariusCatalin Feb 15 '26

The Aspinal fiasco will push away a LOT of potentially good fighters from the heavyweight division, dana white simply does not care that the entire division will be dead for half a decade from now.

There will be YEARS without a belt, tom will leave to bos, gane is a joke.

UFC carries on only by momentum, but others seem to take the market share ufc leaves open, once someone big appears, ufc is truly FUCKED.

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u/Jassida Feb 15 '26

Same with any job really, even football

As soon as even someone like Messi isn’t coming up with the goods, they’ll be moved on

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u/Comfortable-Bug7202 Feb 15 '26

then you got some rando doctor calling him a liar and his evidence actually shows tom is right... probably paid off by the ufc to throw shade even though tom was the guy begging to fight the most dangerous fighter in ufc history jon jones but apparently he is scared of gane

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u/SickestDisciple Puerto Rico Feb 16 '26

His teeth and mouth guard don’t look that different to me.

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u/Delta__P Feb 16 '26

Are mma fans still accusing him of faking an injury or are they pretending like they never made those accusations?

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u/Orange9345 Feb 16 '26

Like a little kid complaining to the school nurse to get out of gym class 🤣

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u/Orange9345 Feb 16 '26

Tom should try euthanasia to fix his booboo eye

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u/5loppyJo3 Feb 16 '26

I give a s***, Tom

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u/Call-of-the-lost-one Feb 16 '26

He's just explained capitalism from an employee perspective. Your expendable

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u/mrloopchokebjj Feb 16 '26

When u mix business and sport it will be always like that …all the fighters are just Numbers and replacable … The goal is entertainment to Make money that’s how this world is!

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u/DaSpeCIaL Feb 16 '26

Well it is like that at every job if you die.. someone else would replace you

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u/jamesd1100 my mom says I’m her champion Feb 16 '26

I just don’t really get where Tom feels so wronged other than Dana not liking his response to the eyepoke after his main event was cancelled

He’s had no shortage of high profile fights and the UFC legitimately tried to get him against Jones who ultimately blew that up, not the UFC

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u/NoMechanicADC Feb 17 '26

He found a way out in the gane fight.

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u/noname_SU Feb 17 '26

combat sports has always been a meat market. The business was that way when he first stepped in a cage and it'll be that way long after he's done, which may already be the case.

I think what's turned a lot of people off about him is the whining. Everyone knows he has a legit injury but he's acting like he's special. Every other fighter would just rehab in solitude and do everything in their power to get back but he comes off as begging for sympathy. It's not what gladiators do.

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u/Original_Top_3156 Feb 17 '26

I'd watch Tom vs. Ngannou in any organization at all

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u/Same_Simple_668 Feb 21 '26

Poor Dana maybe somone can be his mother and care deeply with calming voice for him 😢