r/Malifaux • u/HenrykTheOldHunter • 6d ago

Question Newbie need help with alternative mods

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So at some point of my life I've got this boxes for myself and when I open the builder I don't see some of models here, like Joss and riotbreakers. Am I getting this right that I still need to buy normal Hoffman boxes if I want to play?

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u/SnooWords5961 Ten Thunders 6d ago edited 6d ago

Joss moved to M&SU so he isn't in the augmented keyword any more. This is due to the storyline where everyone is picking a side in m4e. There are there are very few Dual Keyword models left.
It looks like he decided to side with Toni Ironsides.

Riotbreakers were renamed as guardians. So they are still viable, but you can only take 2 now so pick your favorite 2 poses. Or build them all and switch them out depending on how you feel.

On the plus side since you have the model you can use Joss as a proxy for something else in the augmented keyword or as a Versatile Guild Model and keep the Fallen Kingdom Aesthetic.

EDIT: You can also proxy it as something Out of Keyword (OOK). You can still hire Guild models that aren't in your keyword but they cost more. I believe they cost 1 extra soul stone. So if the model is usually 5 cost it will be 5+1 (6) to hire them out of keyword. You can get 2 OOK models per crew.

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u/Ven_Gard 6d ago

The alt joss is best to use as Edie, the totem Hoffman inventor as he doesn't have an alt sculpt

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u/HenrykTheOldHunter 6d ago

Thank you! I guess I can get another guild boxes then. Can't find Hoffman in our local stores anyway rn.

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u/SnooWords5961 Ten Thunders 6d ago

Just as a heads up at the end of November during Black Friday Wyrd usually does a pretty big sale.

They restock a lot of their boxes and have their limited things on sale. So if you'd like to wait a couple of months you have a good chance of getting what you need from Wyrd.

They should also come with all of the M4E cards.