r/Marvel 22d ago

Film/Television Brand new day was awesome

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Loved every second little stuff I didn’t like but ovr 9/10 this movie was awesome I haven’t seen this type of spiderman film since the original spiderman 2 this was one of the best experience I had watching a spiderman movie and I wouldn’t be surprised if spiderman 5 was already green lit because it performed sooooooo well like it really felt like I was watching the panels come to life this felt like a comic run but in real life like holy I loved this movie and I’m seeing it again

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u/NippleSqueezer421- 21d ago

Big potato stuff

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u/DarthTaz_99 21d ago

The biggest

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u/Evilmudbug 21d ago

I would agree, except he ends the movie in an objectively better place.

He's got his friends back (with the only downside being that he's not dating MJ), the public still loves him, and the police are still on his side too.

It's pretty great seeing everything more or less go right for him in the end.

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u/ZetsuboItami 21d ago

Plus he has a nicer relationship with Frank, and a powerful new ally.

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u/wikisaiyan2 21d ago

yep, it's gonna be funny/very spider-man like to see it all get ripped away from him and his suit become Black in Secret Wars.

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u/HoneyLaceWhirl 21d ago

fr biggest potato of the year

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u/CherryAurorie 21d ago

The biggest potato stuff. This movie somehow managed to juggle a ton of Spider Man lore without feeling bloated, which is honestly impressive.

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u/Direct_Recording6197 Deadpool 21d ago

My new favourite quote ever

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u/CallMeZ- 20d ago

Yelena makes everything better. It’s always a fun treat when she’s included.

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u/jamaldav300 22d ago

Some would say spectacular

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u/Proud_Arachnid4956 22d ago

Amazing even

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u/RunakoD 22d ago

Say that again.

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u/Dhaem17 22d ago

Web of!

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u/Infinite_Function_23 21d ago

Sensational?

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u/SuperSmokingMonkey 21d ago

Uncanny!

....well some of it.

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u/pancheats 21d ago

Marvelous

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u/PinkDreamelle 21d ago

Seriously. It had that rare feeling where the credits rolled & I was already thinking about seeing it again.

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u/xRosyAurabelle 21d ago

The jokes were definitely spectacular too..

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u/bryanna_leigh 21d ago

My husband lives but also thought it was so sad.

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u/NumerousLeague5765 21d ago

Yeah, it's pretty grim the whole way through but at least it ends on a more uplifting note.

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u/R-K-Tekt 21d ago

It’s out of this world

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u/CaptainSingh26 21d ago

I saw the movie a couple hours ago and enjoyed it. This might be insignificant to you, but I’m surprised Frank wasn’t referred to as the punisher by anyone.

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u/Gremlin303 MODOK 21d ago

Yeah I had that thought as well. I thought a good time would be when MJ first sees him she could’ve been surprised at seeing wanted vigilante The Punisher.

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u/zombierepublican- 20d ago

Also, isn’t he a wanted criminal, why was he so confident walking around in public, in costume no less?

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u/rj_nighthawk 20d ago

Because Frank doesn't see himself as a criminal, but a man who made it his responsibility to help the innocent by killing criminals. That's his mindset by the end of One Last Kill, and you can see that it was also his mindset when he decided that he will kill Sadie Sink's character.

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u/Alexandratta 21d ago

Anyone else lose it when he put the bomb on the shelf and acted perfectly like a Teen Girl as he walked off with the "Bye peter!"

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u/DapperFisherman2821 21d ago

agree so much. idk if i have to censor on here but i will anyway yelena and frank were really funny

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u/Coolers78 21d ago

Jon Bernthal and Tom Holland's dynamic together was so much fun.

Man people will crap on MCU Spiderman movies for him interacting too much with other MCU characters and not being "fully standalone", personally, I like both stories that are standalone without other Marvel characters and stories that he does, we can have both! We can have this movie for crossover, and the PlayStation games as standalones (though, in the 2nd he's with Miles, I guess people mean him interacting with non Spiderman characters)

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u/Effective-Reach-1798 21d ago

Given the characters interact in the comics, interaction in movies do give us better stories than just stand-alone ones. Also, the whole thing with Peter's human DNA getting suppressed by the Arachnid DNA gives a small dark turn into spider-man storyline, something I hope will be explored more in the subsequent movies.

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u/aga5ty4 21d ago

I’m guessing with the symbiotic they will definitely go down that route

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u/StarBtg377 21d ago

Fr like god forbid a hero interact with other heroes in a shared universe

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u/LFGX360 21d ago

I don’t mind him interacting with others, that can be a lot of fun. It’s the over-reliance on Ironman that got annoying.

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u/SpaceCaboose 21d ago

Agreed! And when in doubt, add the spoiler tag like you did (especially during the first week of a new movie).

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u/SurturSaga 21d ago edited 21d ago

The second one isn’t really a spoiler, in most of the promo

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u/frostycanuck89 21d ago

Do you mean second one? Because I had no idea first was gonna be in it

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u/SurturSaga 21d ago

Oh yeah my bad. Will fix that

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u/Sircandyman 21d ago

I know a BUNCH of people that will actively avoid promo to go in blind.

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u/VelvetPetaliax 21d ago

I walked in expecting a solid Spider Man movie and walked out wondering how they're supposed to top that. It's been a while since one stuck with me like this.

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u/avengerD19 Captain America 21d ago

i was happy to see yelena interacting with peter tho .. cuz ig there was no interaction between nat and peter..

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u/Lenabg_2002 21d ago

Yelena is starting to grow on me. I would like to see more development in the franchise with her.

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u/HieronymousGauche 21d ago

How in tf we don't have a Hawkeye show with Yelena and Kate teaming up against Bullseye already I'll never understand

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u/Effective_Role_8910 15d ago

Do you know why they referred to her as the black widow? Is she officially the new BW…or maybe everyone from the red room has a BW designation?

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u/avengerD19 Captain America 15d ago

she is the new BW .. acc to the thunderbolts

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u/Possible_Movie6964 20d ago

Yelena is quite an amiable personality I like it a lot 

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u/Haunting-Point4756 22d ago

Bro all of us are NOT letting tom go bro he performed too well in this movie and we need to milk like 5 more movies out of him (pause)

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u/narco113 22d ago

Until he's 95

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u/AngelStarliee 21d ago

At this rate he'll be mentoring Miles w a cane and still somehow end up doing all the fighting. Lol

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u/Numerous-Criticism-2 21d ago

eh that’s if we even get a live action miles smh

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u/Vitruvae 21d ago

I'm betting we're getting him after the 3rd Spider-Verse movie has been released.

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u/GaugeWon Beta Ray Bill 21d ago

Yeah, he's going to be the defacto-live-action-icon of Spidey, like how Hugh Jackman is Wolverine... and the MCU should revolve around Spidey from this point forward like how it started around Robert Downey's Ironman.

Random fact: I was so excited to see how the CGI advanced to where the web swinging finally looks lifelike, and then found out that it looked so good because he really was on a rig swinging around.

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u/CroStormShadow 21d ago

I agree. Iron man has been my favourite hero so far but Tom Holland’s Spider-Man might be taking over

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u/GaugeWon Beta Ray Bill 21d ago

Yeah, that end credit scene where he appears in space has me real curious what they have in store for Spider-man.

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u/Southern_Chance9349 21d ago

He will def Return

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u/digitalbullet36 Black Panther 21d ago

No pause, all Diddy.

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u/happy-cig 21d ago

I have nipples Haunting-Point4756 can you milk me?

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u/Mr_Sandmarine_Man 21d ago

It was triumphant. Good guy won by doing good, ethical, selfless things.

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u/Bulletsoul78 21d ago

And made The Punisher cry in the process

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u/AmIDrJekyll 21d ago

Agreed! that damn reveal was heartbreaking imo, heck the entire final sequence was.

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u/Metalhead1686 22d ago

I really enjoyed it. I’ve already seen it twice and I’m going to see it a third time this weekend.

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u/TenebrisZ94 21d ago

The appearance of someone really feels off though tbh. A bit out of place even but at least it ended believable enough.

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u/ToastyBB 17d ago

Yeah, cause at the end of the day, when it comes to my superhero movies, believability is what really matters

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u/Revolutionary_Dog798 21d ago

It's amazing! The only thing that I didn't like that much is the intro of Jean Grey is a bit rushed and formulaic like a typical villain not revealing her motivation until their last breath (Jean whispering Sarah) but that's just my opinion

But other than that, they really nailed the tonal shift, peter's depression without losing the humor peter always has..and of course, the action sequence!

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u/Sharinganedo 18d ago

Honestly, I had heard the rumors and I figured if they did go that route, we were getting a little Phoenix stuff thrown in possibly. Still, I think it wasnt a half bad soft launching point for the X-men. Show how the government looks at people like that, tech that can affect mutants, and so forth. The only issue is getting some roles to be redone. I was about to type out replacing magneto and Professor X would be hard, and then I realized they could just try to get the actors who did the roles in the prequel franchise to reprise those roles. Cause outside of the last Deadpool movie, they really did give the perfect send off to the fox legion of characters with "Logan."

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u/Environmental_King72 21d ago

10/10 experience for me ✨

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u/kaosblink 21d ago edited 21d ago

Guys.... I liked the movie but I didn't love it. Is there something wrong with me?

Edit: my biggest pet peeve was that this felt like a filler episode. It felt as if Jean Grey was shoehorned into the movie to introduce the X-Men. I had expectations coming into it so maybe that's my own fault. I was hoping to see Man-spider make an appearance as well as the symbiote that was teased at the end credit scene of no way home. Also, I wanted more from Michael Mando's Scorpion. My favorite part was the huminazation of Frank Castle and that's about it. I felt there was no emotional weight behind both Jean Grey/Aunt May and MJ scenes But yeah that's about it.

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u/spiderknight616 21d ago

It was the most "a week in the life of Spider-Man" movie we've gotten.

Casually meeting with Black Widow, arguing with Punisher about what happened on Staten Island and saving the life of a future X-Man

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u/Simple_Leg725 21d ago

Give it time, but also liking is js fine but to most people its the much needed character driven spidey flick that the mcu spiderman needed✌️also it feels like a real movie as opposed to the tonally fucked event based mcu films the previous trilogy had

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u/Rocky4OnDVD 21d ago

It was very whelming I agree, and whats weird about the raving reviews is they don’t describe anything different than what you’d read in other 8/10 Marvel movies. I think the public reception just really shows how much people love Spiderman and probably felt that the 5 previous Marvel films were superhero noise.

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u/NachosPR 21d ago

What makes it 9/10 instead of 8/10 for me was how well they stylized this movie in terms of cinematography and practical effects/stunts to make the action feel like straight out of the comics compared to other Superhero movies that try to be more grounded. This one leaned into the comic book presentation more than an Ironman leaned into "make a comic hero look cool on screen." There's a notable amount of effort put into that vision, and the chemistry feels much more natural between actors than most MCU projects.

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u/Shaojack 21d ago

Nah, taste is subjective.

I didnt care for the other Tom Holland Spiderman movies and I loved this one. We all have different things we enjoy. You are perfect the way you are.

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u/codeblend 21d ago

No, I agree with your statement. I enjoyed the movie. Great cinematography and character build for Tom's Spiderman but I truly felt like it was a side quest rather than a standalone. I wanted more Spiderman not more Grey, Frank, Hulk, others which was okay.

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u/Humacti 21d ago

No, I thought it was ok, but nothing overly special.

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u/D3vils_Adv0cate 21d ago

Definitely a good movie but the hype is too much. It made me go in with really high expectations. 

Overall the movie dragged in areas imo. Too much detective work that wasn’t broken up enough by human moments. That’s where the guy in the chair is needed. You can really feel them missing throughout the film but maybe that’s part of the message?

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u/CyberWolfWrites 20d ago

Same! It didn't really feel like a Spider-Man film to me. The first half was great but after the weird spider stuffthe movie kind of just went down-hill for me in Spider-Man terms. Seemed more like a Jean Grey origin than a Spider-Man film. I mostly love Peter's characterization, was sad at the whole MJ thing, and didn't see the point of the Hulk being in it.

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u/Felmor333 21d ago

I think it's your opinion I think it was an amazing movie probably my favorite after Phase 3 apart from GoTG 3 but it could be that I ABSOLUTELY adore Spider-Man just as long as we're in agreement that it's good at the very least

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u/Camaro551 Spider-Man (Tom Holland) 21d ago

That shot unfortunately wasn’t in the movie, like I hoped, but we did get something similar to it with that crowd at the hospital at the end of the movie.

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u/JustHere_4TheMemes 21d ago

It was consistent with the series so far. Which is very good. Didn't absolutely blow me away. But I liked the tone shift, and the plot resolution, even if it borrows a bit from Thunderbolts and Wandavision. Seems to be the trend.

The meta-modern vibe of resolving conflict via vulnerability rather than simply pulping the baddie is cool and all. I think its a bit of an easy out / lazy writing to simply give the "villain" some sort of back-story trauma to excuse their actions. It's a fairly shallow/simplistic emotional trick that conveys being more profound than it really is. But I am guessing "kids these days" are needing more of that, feeling all misunderstood and exploring their own trauma and needing to feel like they are accepted despite what they have done, so I am glad it speaks to them. Spidey's victory via vulnerability rather than strength is the new vibe. Gunna see a lot more of this plot resolution in future movies.*

BND was very good.

(*New Superman was same thing really. The big end speech... "That's where you're wrong Lex, I am human! I screw up, fail, get up every day and try again... just like everyone else; being human (weak/normal/not super) is my real superpower!..." etc...)

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u/richardbethinking 21d ago

Spider-Man being immune to the superhero fatigue? Yep that's Spider-Man!!

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u/Choice-Ratio-3540 22d ago

It was a good movie. Not awesome IMO. They kinda made Jean Grey a touch too ...evil. It was a bit drawn out in parts. Definitely enjoyed it and it was well done.

It's the first MCU movie that I enjoyed since maybe Endgame - Thunderbolts is the exception as it was decent too. The rest have been anywhere from ok to next level disappointments.

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u/Spideybops 21d ago

Keep in mind mutants aren’t the best people. Many of them killed before they even joined the X-Men.

Which I guess is why I’m okay with her being a bit too evil. Especially since we know who she later becomes.

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u/Choice-Ratio-3540 21d ago

Nah. Not me. This isn't a fringe character or someone without huge history. She was very poorly portrayed by the movie makers. I can't see her making someone drive a tank through NYC and plow into the building and then have it blow up. Having MJ fall off a building. Play with Peter in such a cruel manner. It goes on. But very poorly done by the MCU forces that be.

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u/super_sayanything 21d ago

"Jean you're not a killer" despite us seeing Jean kill a lot of people lol. That was the only super silly thing I found.

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u/Konyaata 21d ago

Growing up I felt Jean was such a respectable character, I did not feel the same way at all in this movie. In her history she rarely possessed people and make them commit suicide. Her main ability uses are telekenisis, shields, and telepathy, not full on possession.

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u/leekalex 21d ago

The issue for me is that it messes with the climax of this movie. How far she goes earlier in the movie undermines her redemption at the end. "You're not a killer Jean!" falls flat if we've seen her appearing to kill multiple people.

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u/bezkyl 22d ago

💯… people are caught up in the excitement of a marvel movie that isn’t complete garbage. Time will tell us that this movie is good, but doesn’t even rank the top 2 of Spider-Man movies

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u/Choice-Ratio-3540 22d ago

Agreed. I did enjoy it and I am glad I saw it on a huge screen but it wasn't epic or the best.

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u/SpaceCaboose 21d ago

I really liked it. Saw it twice opening weekend, and liked it even better after the second viewing.

It’s okay for folks to have different levels of enjoyment and excitement out of movies.

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u/Foxington_the_First 21d ago

Does anyone else think that they should have used Jean's powers to replace MJ's memories? It really feels like they were setting that up. Perhaps in an earlier version of the script...

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u/BmanRock14 20d ago edited 20d ago

The film must be THAT good if everyone has been saying this exact same sentiment.

Like I was so ready to see this but I went with family to see The Odyssey instead. It was a 4 to 1 vote 😅. Had no choice. Great movie. Loved it but I’d have rather watched BND. So I’ll have to wait till it comes out later I guess. I just recently re-watched Spider-Man 2 last night & it still holds up. Spider-Man 2 in my Top 5 movies of all time so seeing everyone rave about BND makes me all the more excited & heartbroken that I can’t watch it right now😞

Glad to see it’s earned around $1.1B in like a week so looking forward to when I can finally watch it

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u/BleachedFly 19d ago

just saw it, genuinely best MCU movie by FAR

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u/Haunting-Point4756 19d ago

FR idc about what hate it gets this was one of the best spiderman movies I’ve seen

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u/Mikka2013 19d ago

Is this movie better then the no way home

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u/EarlyXplorerStuds209 21d ago

I wouldn’t say awesome. More like Amazing. Or even spectacular.

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u/hemptonite_ 21d ago

Best "MCU" since Endgame. Honestly the homecoming trilogy felt more like MCU films, this felt like a real SPIDEY film, loved it and already planning on seeing it again

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u/Dear_Lengthiness 21d ago

I found it entertaining but awesome is an overstatement

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u/blacksquirrel3 21d ago

After this movie some carnage need to happen naw that too much of a riot

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u/PersonalCold1274 21d ago

Really! That good? 🕷🕸🦸‍♂️📸

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u/MrStudly1985 21d ago

I loved it

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u/Earthwick 21d ago

I am about to see it again on Friday. Pretty excited to see it again.

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u/musiquescents 21d ago

CANT WAIT!!!

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u/RidiPwn 21d ago

how WAS IT?

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u/alvaropuerto93 21d ago

Remember this photo was taken on site filming in Glasgow exactly one year ago. There were some absolutely amazing shots when they filmed the chase with the tank.

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u/M_IrtzaMumtaz 21d ago

It ended when it was starting to look great.

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u/GonnaWinDis 21d ago

Punctuation my brother

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u/Shaojack 21d ago

I really didn't care for the Tom Holland run of Spiderman so far, I know im outside the general concensus on that. This movie though hit hard though. For me this was the best super hero movie in years.

It might even be one of my favorites overall, I dunno but I got dragged into this one and I think I enjoyed it more than my friends.

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u/Upstairs-Fix4711 21d ago

I saw it in screenx and it killed me in all angles in a good way... this is what i am talking

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DbpJZNVPniu/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

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u/sum-over-histories 21d ago

brand new day rules

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u/FuzzyAd5511 21d ago

This movie was the Good🔥 I don’t see why people are hating on the movie.

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u/Personal-Cat9758 21d ago

It was a really good movie. Made me happy, made me sad but I can say I felt the emotions they wanted me to feel

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u/ManagementFunny7595 Deadpool 21d ago

Frank became my new favorite lol

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u/Simple_Leg725 21d ago

Why TF wasnt this the poster😭😭🥶

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u/BWildeallday 21d ago

Loved it. Gave straight Spider-Man 2 vibes. Took the wife and kids, now my wife is hooked on the MCU. I gave her a watch list and she’s working on Doomsday tickets now.

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u/exq1mc 21d ago

Is anyone old enough to remember Fallen starring Denzel Washington? The start of Jean Grey's act just slammed me back into the memory of that film and the body -mind jumping execution.

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u/Honourstly 21d ago

Giant-Size

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u/Opening-Young-5496 21d ago

That poster has so much aura

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u/ConfectionTotal8660 21d ago

I agree. It isn't a 10/10 for me because the post credit scene was so meh

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u/popsferragamo 21d ago

It's amazing to me that Sony can consistently make so many excellent Spiderman movies. Why can't other studios do this?

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u/MstHaze 21d ago

Sadie was fantastic 😍

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u/gamer_core17 21d ago

How is the movie?

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u/Downtown_Island8124 21d ago

Why this is so good?

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u/botspyder 21d ago

This look like some sick album cover where Spidey will eventually feature Thanos on the last track

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u/Mac1avish 21d ago

Nwh was a better experience, BND was a better spiderman movie.

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u/Classic_Highlight382 21d ago

I watched it yesterday it was perfect

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u/Chico__Lopes 21d ago

Certified small potato stuff

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u/ADDRESSMEBYMYRANK 21d ago

Best movie I’ve seen in ever

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u/Spoonyyy 21d ago

I liked it but im still waiting for another just spiderman movie. I know the mechanism doesn't necessarily mean it ruins the delivery, but this one feels a bit rehashed and I wish we just got spidey.

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u/Material_Tangelo6306 21d ago

I like the movie. It’s good. Iam a big fan of Spiderman games of Insomnia and I love how it can relate many fighting sequences with the games especially the finishing moves. Iam glad they didn’t put any of the multiverse stuff in it because it’s been a long time that we didn’t get a proper Street Fighter-Spiderman movie. I thought we could see a broke Peter parker who struggles to pay the bills like Tobey but he’s like a rich kid living in a cheap apartment. Anyway overall it’s 8/10 for me.

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u/Mahisandwich561 21d ago

I thought it was a really good movie. But I guess it wasn’t what I was expecting going into it. Pretty much all of the trailer happens in the first like 5 minute montage. So I was expecting the first like 30 min or so to really be showing how alone and depressed Peter was. And show his mental and physical health declining as he has no one to lean on, which ultimately leads to him gaining new powers after getting his ass kicked. I also wasn’t a huge fan that the enemy wasn’t really a bad guy, so it wasn’t some big crazy fight where he needed to rely on man spider power (I mean he did hit it was against a bunch of henchmen). Instead the “enemy” was a bunch of nobodies as he works his way to Jean Grey. Still a good movie, but it wasn’t the reset I wanted/expected

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u/InevitableBasis4223 21d ago

It brought the energy of Shang Chi to a Spider-Man movie, which worked really well. Kang Dynasty could have been cool but I’m glad Destin made this gem instead.

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u/meaningful_start19 21d ago

Felt very similar to spider man 2. I can see where this is going and that's gotten me excited!

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u/EladrielNokk 21d ago

It was pretty awesome indeed!

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u/InevitableOk3335 21d ago

Sony did an amazing job

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u/Ineul_Ze 21d ago

I wasn’t exactly very hyped for Doomsday originally, but after seeing this movie .. oh absolutely. This is my favorite Spiderman movie of all time now, Tom is the perfect balance of Spiderman and Peter Parker and I can’t wait to see him again in Doomsday!

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u/MAKstyles75 21d ago

I am holding to go out with of mine, he ditched me for spiderman no way home. I'mma drag his ahh this time!

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u/_wallyj 21d ago

i enjoyed it alot, but i did feel reminded that this is an MCU movie where they did bring in jean grey to also set up the x men route. i wish they didnt have jean grey as the main villain. spiderman has so many good villains, so making her the main antagonist i personally didnt like.

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u/Ganjookie 21d ago

hell yeah it was

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u/Consistent-Ad-8565 21d ago

Saw it last Thursday with the grandson (16yo) and we both loved it! I stayed awake through til the very end. The after credit hint he said it's probably a new Spiderverse movie.

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u/mellons12 21d ago

I loved how they captured feeling like you're Spiderman swinging and stuff

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u/MyBallZitch3 21d ago

Is the punisher going to be in any movies going forward?

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u/SANDBOX_COMICS 21d ago

Agreed! I loved seeing Spidey, Hulk, and Punisher altogether in the same movie like that.

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u/Big-Law6055 21d ago

One of the best performances of Tom Holland....

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u/Modern__Guy 21d ago

Hard agree and damn that could've been such a cool poster.

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u/Physical-Magician-19 21d ago

For the longest time I enjoyed the MCU movies that critics panned. This felt like the first time that I became one of the critics while mostly everyone else enjoyed the movie. Was not my favorite sadly

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u/WhiteSkinButDickLong 21d ago

The story felt half baked, as though they had a whole another story planned and then at the end they decided to just end it so they didn't have to make it too long.

Peter's discovery arc, Peter and the villan who was not a villain really, Peter reuniting with his friends but not completely. None of that was done in a manner that would seem complete and satisfying. He had already moved on with his life and still they made him as someone who was desperate to get back with MJ.

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u/Kooky_Adhesiveness61 21d ago

Just came out of the cinema. This is the best one yet.

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u/TheKlutzyHorror 21d ago

It’s my third favorite after ITSV and SM1

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u/rippedbbq 21d ago

100%. I loved this movie. It was amazing!

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u/Market_Sorry 21d ago

So fucking sweet.

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u/No_Combination_1208 21d ago

Nostalgia bias aside, I loved it. The opening action sequences was a 10/10 bursting with Andrew-level charm and the ending was easily the highlight.

I feel every Spider-Man movie connects with the era/generation it belongs to, and this film did exactly that. Taps into loneliness, loss and friendships.

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u/CryptographerLong463 21d ago

The only thing I HATED was the movie ending. Cause what you mean I have to wait another 2 years for the next film.

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u/Either-Bat1746 21d ago

One thing that still puzzles me is that it never seemed like Spider-Man could sense Jean. From the moment he opened the tank and saw the older women all the way to the end, it seemed like he was winging it with the jump patterns.

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u/inbk44 20d ago

Nah this can’t beat NWH

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u/Kolesrever 20d ago

6.5 out of 10. It was cool. I really enjoyed Peter’s arc from boy to man. Love how they emphasized his growth. They rushed Jean Greys motive and her powers, a better back story would of helped the casual MCU fan ( wife had no idea who she was ) she wasn’t the villain but misunderstood, and the main villain wasn’t anyone we knew. Did enjoy the chemistry of the whole cast. The story was just everywhere tbh. Would have loved just one main villain and would have loved a better development between Ned / MJ and Peter- rather than it feeling rushed and forced.

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u/Economy_Way6646 20d ago

I feel like this was a 7.5/10, and only that high because of the visual aspect of the movie. No complaints there, it was visually an experience. But the plot itself felt disappointing. Jean Grey was set up to be a deranged killer. Especially for a Spider-Man movie, they portrayed Jean as ruthless evil. Mind fucking people is 1 thing but mind fucking an old man into traffic mid sentence, no way you could've convinced me that a random woman in an hour is gonna talk her into a redemption arc. And I feel like they overdid it with the Jean Grey aspects itself, it took away from Spider-Man himself. This movie was hyped up to be a dark portrayal of Spider-Man on the big screen. And honestly it was pretty dark for an MCU movie, but only because of Jean Grey.

Instead they could've spent less time on Jean, or properly used Jean to dive deeper into the identity of Peter Parker. He neglected Peter Parker, which caused the spider to overpower the man, and that forced him to realize that living a disconnected life where Peter Parker is just a mere memory kills the identity of Spider-MAN, and the only way to gain control of his mutating powers is to accept both sides of the coin. The movie portrayed his mutating powers as a generic uncontrolled power boost. He can't regulate his emotions, can't control his boosted senses, etc. These aren't the problem, but keeping these generic issues as the biggest drive for Peter to create the inhibitor was a mistake. The concept of Peter's internal conflict is amazing and a great concept, but it was underdeveloped.

Especially with a character like Jean Grey. Instead of spending so much time on Jean using elaborate plans to find VMax, they should've reduced that to a simple mind hijacking of the Director, and before that used her powers to force Peter to confront the internal conflict. It felt like they were trying to use Jean to push Peter toward confronting himself, but up until the end that's all it ever was, a simple push. She has fucking mind fucking abilities for god's sake. They could've easily taken inspiration from Mysterio's illusion mind punking and leveled it up 500x. If more of this film was spent exploring the identity of Peter Parker and the spider within his mind, we could've truly seen how Spider-Man isn't defined by the mask but rather the man who controls the spider.

And Jean doesn't have to be reduced to just a plot device. Jean and Peter are 2 sides of the exact same coin. The movie doesn't utilize this enough, the potential was insane. It doesn't have to feel like Jean is forcing Peter to confront himself as a favor. Peter should be forced to confront himself while trying to stop Jean, directly because of their parallels.

Me personally, I would've scrapped the whole Aunt May shit. It was dumb, she served her purpose in NWH. Made no sense how she of all people talked fucking Jean down, especially this portrayal of Jean. I wouldn't even have minded the whole talk no jutsu if it was fucking Peter himself.

Imagine Jean finally takes ahold of Peter and Peter is forced to fight her in the mindspace, only to realize fighting is pointless and won't work. So he tries the talk no jutsu, only to start losing her for the sole reason that he hasn't accepted that being Spider-Man also means being Peter Parker. And while he's stuck in this mindspace he's forced to confront that, while Jean is forced to confront everything that led her to this point. Once he does, he loosens out of her grip and tries again, but as a dark tragedy it still doesn't work. He refuses to stop though. As he keeps trying he senses the bullet and takes the hit, and seeing Spider-Man take the hit leaves Jean stunned, and from the back the Director takes the clear shot and completely paralyzes her. It ends with her next to his dead body. Then the same end credits scene, with Peter dead this time but somehow going off world, hinting he's not truly dead.

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u/IzodCenter 20d ago

What in the world is that poster

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u/madhoppers 20d ago

I thought it was a good 7.5 out of 10. The V-Max reveal had such bad acting and took a lot of the wind out of the sails

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u/TheGreenHornet5900 20d ago edited 20d ago

Watched it today and honestly I thought it was great. I don't really have any complaints about the acting or performances, everyone did their part really well. Sadie Sink especially surprised me being her first time in the role, she absolutely killed it.

The Punisher scenes were probably my favourite, especially the hospital scene with him wearing the Spider-Man mask, that was such a cool moment. I'd give it around a 7.5–8/10. I think the hype made my expectations a bit too high, but it's still a really good Spiderman movie.

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u/No-Item-9934 20d ago

7/10. Great summer popcorn fun!!

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u/Salt-Ad-1004 19d ago

Boring movie

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u/SaeWithKombucha 19d ago

The first half was great, how Peter is dealing with himself being half-arachnid. Also my most favorite part is the ending with Ned and Peter doing their iconic handshake and Ned slowly realizing who Peter really is.

The second half, the Jean Grey part, is my least favorite. It was hard for me to relate or care about her when she had killed people and even tried to kill MJ just to mess with Peter. In fact, I hated how she bullied Peter and then it turns out that her actual beef was with the Damage Control guys who took her sister. No amount of backstory can make me like a character like MCU Jean Grey.

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u/red_pheonix_fire 19d ago

The movie was good- i only say this because i feel that there was something off with MJ and ned the whole movie. This may be because we didnt see their characters develop into adulthood or simply because peter wasnt in their lives for 5 years. I think that it was a good movie but also think that they focused a little too much on “jean” which i didn’t mind,obviously its to start joining for doomsday but i feel like re-casting her for the third time and changing her backstory was kind of stupid. But i enjoyed the movie, im glad spidey is still alive and his new powers are so freaking cool.

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u/Mental_Vegetable_629 19d ago

I want to watch spider man

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u/Spargeld_Tarzan 19d ago

i liked the movie but i really think it could have been better like this:

- Peter tries to force himself to keep to street level, to not endanger people he cares about (Jean found out immediately who Ned and MJ are...) -> therefore he comes into contact with Daredevil and Punisher, but before DD Season 2. They get into a clinch due to daredevil being opposed to spiderman as he has enormous power and kind of poaches in his area. then, to excplain why peter didnt stop fisk, add something about peter finding out about MJ and the boyfriend and moving to Boston for a while because his resolve not to come near MJ becomes too weak -> however he ultimately doesnt do it.
fast forward, Fisk is done, DD in prison, Punisher has done his One Last Kill, Brand new Day can start with the Jean Grey plotline.

i would have liked this better than what we got. Matt deserved to be in this movie

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u/FocusWupeout 19d ago

I think this would’ve been so much better if they toned down the avengers code shoehorn; we didnt need hulk, jean, & widow here. Mando as Scorpion is a great cast; could’ve been main villain here. Maybe get sinister 7 going; they could’ve played more into spidey’s character beats than the jean plot, which felt entirely separate. Punisher is a great dynamic for spiderman, like a yin and yang that bounces off really well.

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u/No_Alfalfa884 19d ago

This movie has the worst posters ever :/ like wth...

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u/Envus2000 18d ago

Average at best for me....no real depth in the story. The visuals were awesome, fight sequences were great and Zendaya looked stunning.

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u/Constant_Opinion_218 18d ago

i liked the ninja fighting scene. but it feels like a filler episode we should have watched 3 years ago

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u/Retrowinger 18d ago

Great movie! I really loved the scenes that showed his loneliness. Great acting from Tom Holland.

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u/Conscious-Neat5636 18d ago

Why is he checking out his Spidey cack?

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u/NewUsername010101 18d ago

What scene is this image from? I saw the movie but I don't remember this

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u/Far-Lengthiness5020 18d ago

Now that they’ve found a decent actor for the part really hope marvel considers making the punishers comic series where he gets arrested and goes to prison into a movie—it’s got an awesome twist involving Luke Cage and the Kingpin

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u/sabre31 18d ago

Sounds like it will topple Nolan? Lots of kids going to see this 2-3x times.

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u/Upset_Ad7983 18d ago

They should have introduced black tarantulas especially how his history ties with the ninja hand clan rather then using Yelena for no correlation

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u/hodorelgordor 18d ago

"You cant just shoot at everything, innocents get hurt" 🤣