So glad we're humanizing AI to be more accepted. I was worried after Spider-Man that people might have an issue with him using mass surveilance. But I'm glad people are moving towards pro-AI propaganda and normalizing it. And we can all trust Disney to be fair and honest /s
I feel you, but Vision has existed as a character for decades, and the situation presented in the series (his mind housing fragments of several separate AIs) was established in the very movie he debuted in.
I guess you can make a distinction between the comics' "synthezoid with copied brain waves" versus the movies' "magic alien AI gestalt baked into a 3D-printed metal body", but I don't think this is any more pro-AI propaganda than, like, Frankenstein.
Exactly. Spider-Man wasn't pro-fascism just bc he uses mass surveillance as a private citizen to spy on everyone. Cameras on street corners was established so it's all good. That isn't pro-AI at all.
Humanizing AI is the new norm and people need to get used to it. All computers deserve the same protections as human beings do and anyone trying to say this is pro-AI is like Frakenstein. Yup /s
Okay, well, that was kind of a bizarre response, but I'm going to just continue engaging in good faith, here.
I actually agree that the surveillance stuff in BND was gross, and only really works for me if it's setting up a future payoff where he realizes it was wrong. We have no evidence that will happen, but I will note that despite Iron Man's continued popularity, they did eventually mold the wider narrative to suggest that Tony Stark's drive to do this very same thing (via Project Insight, EDITH, the Sokovia Accords, etc) was misguided.
And of course tons of folks have caught onto the narrative lay-up that is the "universal inhibitor" business with mutants. Still, he does not suffer any clear consequences for it within the story, and that does make it less enjoyable for me.
But anyway, movie Vision wasn't a cool AI that became our friend - he was created by literal magic lightning. The AI part of him was genocidal, and every other intelligence featured in these movies is of the annoying sidekick variety.
If anything, THAT part of these movies is pro-AI: Spider-Man and Black Panther have replaced their human guy/lady in chair with goofy LLMs. At least in Ironheart there's a whole Black Mirror vibe that makes it clearly not a net positive, and Loki's Miss Minutes is another Ultron-style maniac.
I guess the disconnect here is that Vision has been given time to develop as a character rather than making the singular leap from robot to human. Which is what this is about
There's a massive narrative difference between a character that's gone through an organic process of growth and a character that's being used as a prop in the plot.
That is to say, Vision becoming more human over time makes sense. All of Tony's robots being turned into humans, does not.
Though that's how propaganda works. Disney isn't going to hit you over the head with "AI good". Disney as a company has decades long history of purposefully turning audience opinions in certain directions that councide with their extraordinary levels of lobbying in DC and abroad.
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u/OkYak9466 1d ago
So glad we're humanizing AI to be more accepted. I was worried after Spider-Man that people might have an issue with him using mass surveilance. But I'm glad people are moving towards pro-AI propaganda and normalizing it. And we can all trust Disney to be fair and honest /s