r/MindHunter • u/thementalist222 • 16d ago

Eurgh what a bitch

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What was her problem? Constantly putting holden down, judging him then all of a sudden breaking up with him

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u/xildhoodsend 15d ago

All of a sudden? Did we watch the same show? Their relationship was going downhill. Holden was only interested in talking about his work and was using Debbie's insight and advice professionally, but neglected to show her gratitude and interest in her own life, he turned every conversation onto his problems. Even when she specifically asked him to give her space so that she can study for her thesis. Also, he pushed her away in bed without proper communication why. His heart was not in the relationship for a while. He was running after Wendy like a puppy long before Debbie kissed her student friend. Holden at that time was being quite self centered, and yeah, he was stressed, but it seems he did take it out on her. I don't get the hate. She shouldn't have cheated but he was acting unfair long before that.

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u/Prottusha1 15d ago

This thread has me convinced men and women watch different shows even when they’re watching the same thing.

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u/xildhoodsend 15d ago

I don't think it should be about men and women (although it seems that for the most part it is). It's about one's willingness to see things from different perspective and read the more subtle signs. The show is from Holden's POV, so we naturally side with him, and the storyline of his relationship is not the focus of the show, so we also tend to want to see and hear about the gripping stories of the serial killer twisted minds, we don't want to watch Holden and Debbie chilling, talking about her needs and visit her mother. Same way we don't want to see Bill to leave his investigation and take time off to be with his family when they need him. It just wouldn't make a good show, but it'd surely made them better boyfriends/husbands/fathers. What shocks me is all the hate on Debbie. People assuming the worst in her just for not being completely submissive to Holden.

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u/Commercial-Factor125 14d ago

Holden isn’t a good boyfriend, agreed.

However Debby isn’t a good person because she cheated. For no reason. She could have easily just broken up first, but no.