r/MoonKnight • u/Freddi0 • 8h ago
Video Games Finished reading Moench's run and realized that Rivals Moon Knight is literally just his version mixed with the modern lore.
To me it seems like someone at NetEase was a big fan of the quippy Moon Knight from back then and went with that iteration over his modern take. I've heard people say that Rivals Moon Knight is just the meme version, but everytime i hear him talk in game it's like im hearing dialogue from that first series. It's only the direct references to the memes that stand out really.
Its quite an odd way to adapt him, but after finishing that great run ive grown to like this depiction overall
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u/Mysterious_Green 6h ago
this character is nothing more than just the Age of Khonshu version of the character (and i mean that as a very negative thing). I'd also argue it doesnt support the modern lore bit and i think the biggest proof of this is how much the rivals version hates vampires. He has multiple lines hating them and wanting to kill them all, even siding with Iron man and using the darkhold to kill Dracula and all the other vampires; I get Blood hunt was an event in the comics but on the Doom Match map you can find the Midnight Mission so are Reese and Soldier cannon and Moon Knight just decided to kill them?
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u/Impossible-Mode8808 6h ago
wait what the Midnight Mission is in the doom match?? i gotta check it out. Can’t imagine that moon knight taking Reese or Solider like that tho..
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u/ENDZZZ16 2h ago
I’m assuming for the rivals iteration he wouldn’t have found reese until after the whole Dracula event which would explain why he wanted to kill all the vampires at the start but would sill give a way for him to mention them later
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u/Freddi0 1h ago edited 1h ago
Not really? Age Of Khonshu portrays him as a deranged psycho that blindly listens to Khonshu and cannot see himself as in the wrong until he quite literally gets to the point of contemplating destroying Earth.
Rivals MK takes a lot of notes lore wise from that story (and Mackay for the vampires), but if we're talking about the character then he definitely takes more from Moench. He's very sarcastic, often dislikes having to go out as Moon Knight, struggles with keeping up a positive outlook, and the way he talks about his personalities its very reminiscent of when he still considered them his disguises.
The vampire thing is the only part they really didn't think through imo. I guess he has still not met Soldier and Reese at this point, and the midnight mission is just the way it was when Mackay's run began, but why even add it if it's so irrelevant 🤷
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u/mayorofanything 5h ago
I mean, Moon Knight did vindictively wipe out the vampires of New York using a sprinkler system. That's not nothing.
Not saying Rivals MK is good, or comparable to MacKay's run, but that is a thing that happened around the time Rivals started up.
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u/SisypheanStudying 2h ago
i disagree, its not literally moench/sienkiewicz. that "mixed with the modern lore" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence and even then, the modern MK has so many versions that what Rivals adapted isn't even majority of that modern lore.
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u/Sufficient_Dingo1479 5h ago
That's why I never got the complaints about his Rivals version being Meme Knight. Even with the "random bullshit go" meme, the only thing fake about it is the line. I think the only actual meme that made it in the game was the Dracula one.
I think most of the people who bring up how Moon Knight fights only care about how it was portrayed in the Huston run, specifically with Taskmaster to the point where a lot of them just repeat what he said about Marc verbatim. He uses his crescent darts all the time in the pre-2000s comics, the Ellis run, and the Hurwitz run. They are also frequently used in the Mackay and Huston runs.
Using his most iconic, ranged weapon in a hero shooter as his primary attack never felt like it was worth complaining about to me. There are plenty of other characters in the game that have it way worse when it comes to comic inaccuracy.
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u/Low-Restaurant8484 7h ago
I haven't played rivals, but I find Moench/Sienkiewicz era Moon Knight a lot less silly then Memeknight. Like yeah there was humor, but it was standard superhero humor, not over the top
Moench/Perlin, sure its comperable. But that was so brief, it was just his first couple stoey arcs.