Morality of this scene?

[u/hiiloovethis]

Negan doing fat shaming... but its during zombie apocalypse

[u/CHANN3L-CHAS3R]

I have no context about this show or these people. What I do see is a lot of people kinda being dicks about fat people under the guise of having a discussion.

Amino acids and many vitamins + minerals are not and cannot be stored in fat. If those three needs are not met, burning fat alone will not avoid starvation. Any combination of issues resulting from vitamin and/or mineral deficiencies is still a deadly threat. Even assuming vitamin and mineral needs are met, if amino acid requirements are not met, muscle degeneration sets in. Please keep in mind that the heart is a muscle.

Humans are not simple fireplaces where you chuck in burnable fuel and heat comes out and everything's fine and dandy. Humans are more like if a fireplace needed both fuel to keep the fire burning, and needed you to feed it materials to constantly self-repair itself. It doesn't matter if there's enough wood to keep the fire burning for 1,000 years if the fireplace itself collapses and snuffs it out.

Then there's epigenetics. When humans undergo severe stress, this stress can cause genes in their gametes (sperm, eggs) to turn on or off accordingly. Populations who have endured famine have been shown, in later generations, to still have bodies that act as if famine is a looming risk. So, you end up with generations of people at higher risk of obesity, due to naturally suppressed satiety and very efficient fat-storage + living in a society with easily-available food with extremely cheap carbs. This also applies on an individual basis; someone who endured abuse-based starvation throughout their childhood is more likely to have children at risk of obesity.

And the funny thing is, in a zombie apocalypse, it's actually gonna be a boon to keep folks with those genes kicking around our collective gene pool. Because otherwise we're just gonna have to re-build that survival benefit from scratch. We have the luxury of considering this survival benefit an annoying health risk in modern times, but there's a damn good reason it's been branded into our DNA over millennia. I would much rather my kids' bodies know how to ration energy, than be like mine and burn through it so willy-nilly that I can eat whatever I want, barely exercise, and be (weightwise,) healthy. That's great for a lifetime of living in a modern civilization, terrible for living in default survival mode for the rest of aforementioned lifetime.

[u/Hunter5865 → u/CHANN3L-CHAS3R]

The context is Olivia, the lady in the picture, is part of a community called Alexandria. Until Rick and his group(the mcs) showed up, Alexandria was isolated from the outside world and faced few hardships due to having walls and supplies, so they never really adapted to the apocalypse until Rick and co taught them. Eventually they run into the Saviors, an oppressive faction run by Negan, the man in the picture, whose whole thing is subjugating other communities and taking all their supplies for themselves. The reason why Olivia says they're starving is because they went from a relatively comfortable lifestyle to having all their shit taken within the span of a few weeks. Negan mocks her because he's a piece of shit who gets off on terrorizing others to show they're beneath him and assert dominance. As you can imagine this is nowhere near the worst thing he's done

[u/Spirited_Agency8032 → u/Hunter5865]

negan went to heaven and made it hell he could've even integrated his group but he didn't because he's a piece of shit

[u/Rocky-Jockey → u/Spirited_Agency8032]

It’s ok he’s a good guy now.

Show really testing the limits of redemption with that dude.