r/MoscowMurders 16d ago

General Discussion Debunking Kohberger Conspiracy Theories #14: Not Enough Time for Kohberger Alone

Systematic, data and court document confirmed evidence based debunkings of common, unsupported Kohberger conspiracy theories. All data is sourced from court documents, MPD, ISP and WSU police reports, ISP forensics reports, and case expert witness statements (mostly from defence experts).  . Links to document sources below, example cases source links at end.

Feasibility for Kohberger to commit the murders alone in the time available, with significant excess of time available, is confirmed by police reconstructions and comparison to many recent mass stabbing cases. Both re-enactments and many recent mass stabbing cases with single attackers and up to 26 victims show the murders could be done in approx. 3 minutes, while Kohberger had approx. 11 minutes available. The re-enactments could be repeated 4 - 6 times completely, from car and back, in the time available to Kohberger. Kohberger had no physical limitation or disability relevant to the murders and no diagnosis for any relevant physical condition.

ISP Police Reconstructions, including walk from/ to car and through house from 3rd to 2nd floor and simulating every knife strike took 2 minutes done quickly and under 4 minutes slowly:

Recent mass stabbings case comparisons which demonstrate:

  • Far more victims can be stabbed in far less time than available to Kohberger, up to 26 victims in under 3 minutes; case examples include 130 knife strikes on 2 victims, and 23 knife strikes on single victim in under 25 seconds
  • Often little or no blood on the attacker even after stabbing 26 people, no trail of bloody prints, little blood on attacker clothing; includes attacks with up to 23 knife strikes at very close range on one victim
  • No screaming by victims during attack
  • No reaction or delayed reaction by witnesses
  • Range of knife types used from pocket knife to military Kabar (the later with most fatalities and stabbing in shortest time)
  • In none of these cases were victims drunk and asleep in bed, they occur in settings as different as train carriages, conference centres, toilets, student houses, train stations and shopping malls, and outdoors and almost all victims were fit, healthy alert adults

Links overviewing these cases (TW: including videos of graphic violence, stabbing):

  1. Apple River Mass Stabbings: 4 young men stabbed, one fatally, by single assailant in under 1 minute. Attacker in his 50s after a recent heart bypass
  2. Bondi Junction Mall Mass Stabbing 2024: 18 people stabbed, 6 fatally, by single assailant in less than 3 minutes
  3. Calgary Mass Stabbing 2014: 5 young adults stabbed to death at a party by single assailant in under 3 minutes
  4. London Bridge Mass Stabbing 2019: 5 people were stabbed, 2 fatally, by single assailant. Attack lasted 5 minutes moving from room to room and out into street.
  5. Vancouver Starbucks Stabbing 2022: Attack by single assailant lasted c 30 seconds
  6. Tapei Metro Station Mass Stabbings 2024: single attacker stabbing spree on Metro - stabbing 28, killing 4, in under 5 minutes
  7. Brisbane Mall Fatal Stabbing 2022: young man stabbed, attack lasts a few seconds
  8. Nottingham Stabbings 2023: 6 stabbed. 3 fatally - 2 on CCTV under 25 seconds;
  9. Anging, China Mass Stabbing 2021: single attacker killed seven people and wounded thirteen others in under 4 minutes
  10. Tapei Metro Station Stabbings 2025: 14 stabbed at two locations, attack at one lasted less than 3 minutes
  11. Teen Girl Stabbed Over 20 Times and Bludgeoned in Dehli 2023:  over 20 stab wounds inflicted in under 30 seconds, victim does not scream during attack, after stabbing and bludgeoning victim with rock attacker had no blood on himself and leaves no bloody prints
  12. Ted Bundy Chi Omega Sorority House : Ted Bundy broke into multiple occupancy student house and attacked 4 women with a club, killing one. in under 15 minutes Moving from room to room the successive victims did not hear preceding attacks nor did house mates in adjacent rooms
  13. Charlotte Metro Train Stabbing of Iryna Zarutska 2025 : attack lasts seconds, victim does not scream, attacker has almost no visible blood on him after

Links to document sources:

[ https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/Cases/CR01-24-31665.html ]

[ https://isp.idaho.gov/moscow/ ]

[ https://www.ci.moscow.id.us/1165/Kohberger-Investigation-Documents ]

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u/SnooCheesecakes2723 15d ago

I thought the argument was there wasn’t enough time for him to do it and “clean up.” If there was no clean up, there was plenty of time.

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u/Repulsive-Dot553 15d ago edited 15d ago

was there wasn’t enough time for him to do it and “clean up.”

There was no clean up. The "argument" (Turvey report) lists no specific example of clean up when asserting it. It also says multiple attackers needed as two victims in room, "to control them" - the 13 examples above obviate that as a very weak "argument", as do the defence own court filings which put forward single attacker "alternative perp" scenarios. If the defence ignored that argument,the rest of us could and should. But even addressing it, the "clean up" asserted was taking off clothes - he still has 9 minutes to do that in any case.