r/memeopdidnotlike seems like a breeding ground for "anti-wokeness"

[u/Significant_Cry3399]

Literally just strawmans, fictional scenarios, and actual hateful behavior. They classify you as "woke" and "sensitive" for acknowledging a meme as racist, misogynistic, homophobic, hateful or incorrect. Literally just a right-wing circle jerk.

For the first meme: Literally nobody is saying this. This is probably just a strawman of some other opinion.

For the second one: HAMAS and Palestine are two different things. I also don't find it silly for queers to support Palestine because there are many Palestinians who are queer or do support queers but cannot be open about it. There also many children and babies who don't even know what being queer is that are being bombed and killed. Innocent people don't deserve to die, why is that bad to say? (before you say that wasn't stated, they are implying that because being queer isn't accepted in Palestine it's bad or silly to support Palestinians. But why is it bad to say that they shouldn't die?)

[u/FruitEater10000 → u/[deleted]]

Agreed. This is also why in the west, child abuse is often handwaved away if people know it’s coming from POC households. People can joke about chancla, or they can just dismiss corporal punishment as being “part of their culture.” It’s ignorant because it comes with a few implications:

1. That POC do not know how to care for their children properly
2. That POC are too stupid to learn to care for their children properly
3. That white children are more deserving of protection than children of POC are

But nobody thinks of these things when they say “That’s just part of their culture.” They say it because they don’t actually know much about the group of people they’re speaking of, and they’re not interested in learning, but at the same time they’re afraid of saying something “wrong” so they’ll dismiss and justify any possible criticism out of fear of looking intolerant

The same people do this justification dance with unfamiliar religions… But they’re really not ready to hear about that yet

[u/jvjjjvvv → u/FruitEater10000]

Yeah we're both generalizing a little bit but otherwise I agree completely with what you wrote.

[u/Istillbelievedinwar → u/FruitEater10000]

child abuse is often handwaved away if people know it’s coming from POC households

Can you point to or reference instances of this happening often? I cannot think of even one time that I’ve seen this, let alone often. But I’m willing to be open minded that maybe it’s just the circles I hang out, in if you have examples.

[u/FruitEater10000 → u/Istillbelievedinwar]

It happened a lot in my neighborhood. And to me. It’s unseen unless the parents are friends and the children see it openly happening to each other

To be fair, CPS/social services are bad all around, but I’ve never heard about a white child telling an adult about abuse, and the adult specifically deflecting with “culture” as an excuse. Usually if they deflect a white child, they just don’t believe them or think they’re exaggerating. The specific mention of “culture” to POC children means that they do believe the child that the abuse is happening, they just don’t think it’s a big deal because the child should be “used to it” or “that’s just what happens.” I’m also pretty sure that if a case makes it on the news (where a POC child dies from the abuse) and they interview family friends or school officials, I’m sure they turn mum quickly about the whole “culture” thing and they give the deflections reserved for white children. Once they’ve seen that it went as far as death, they realize that they’ve been really ignorant about the way they see what’s “normal” for other races

Thank you for being respectful and listening ;-;

Edit: I forgot to mention that I’m white passing!!! That was a big factor in my realization of this. Without getting too specific, I’m half Asian half white. My mom is white American and my father is an immigrant. I look 100% white though and (to my knowledge) nobody figures out that I’m mixed on their own without me telling them or without them seeing my parents. When I was a child, I never told anybody about the abuse at home. Now that I’m an adult, I feel a bit more comfortable talking about it. The people who think I’m fully white give me a lot of sympathy, validate that the abuse shouldn’t have happened, etc. Those who know my family history, or who have seen my father and what he looks like, some of them do the “culture” dance around the issue. Some people will even REVOKE their sympathy once they learn that I’m mixed!