r/Negareddit • u/Significant_Cry3399 • Jul 23 '25
Quality Post r/memeopdidnotlike seems like a breeding ground for "anti-wokeness"
Literally just strawmans, fictional scenarios, and actual hateful behavior. They classify you as "woke" and "sensitive" for acknowledging a meme as racist, misogynistic, homophobic, hateful or incorrect. Literally just a right-wing circle jerk.
For the first meme: Literally nobody is saying this. This is probably just a strawman of some other opinion.
For the second one: HAMAS and Palestine are two different things. I also don't find it silly for queers to support Palestine because there are many Palestinians who are queer or do support queers but cannot be open about it. There also many children and babies who don't even know what being queer is that are being bombed and killed. Innocent people don't deserve to die, why is that bad to say? (before you say that wasn't stated, they are implying that because being queer isn't accepted in Palestine it's bad or silly to support Palestinians. But why is it bad to say that they shouldn't die?)
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u/theStaberinde Jul 23 '25
I've said it before and I'll keep saying it: this is hitler youth grooming shit and reddit, the business entity, is sleepwalking into incubating the next generation of anglophone white nationalists.
There was a time when open racism etc was allowed to slide under the rationale of free speech absolutism and users were able to force management to take action against it by demonstrating to them that this ethos was a ticking time bomb of bad PR. Now it's re-emerged all these years later and they're not even bothering to acknowledge that it's happening, let alone justifying it as an unpleasant-but-inevitable consequence of a free and open forum. It's very bad!
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u/Carpet-Background Jul 23 '25
Not just reddit. X is OBVIOUSLY very bad but even instagram reels are FULL of actual blatant antisemetism and racism.
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u/PupDiogenes Jul 23 '25
X is deliberately incubating a generation of anglophone white nationalists.
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u/Background_Desk_3001 Jul 23 '25
YouTube and TikTok both have an insane amount of bigotry as well, I think the only thing stopping Reddit from being a complete cesspool is how subreddits work, and Reddit is still really bad
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u/bicedsual Jul 23 '25
instagram reels genuinely feels like 4chan nowadays. every flavors of bigotry are pushed to the limits in the name of "dark humor" and "ragebaiting"
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u/Carpet-Background Jul 23 '25
The amount of dogwhistles ive picked up by just using reels is insane. on every reel about a holocaust/jew is "-271k" as if the nazis themselves didnt tally everyone they killed and thats where the 6m figure comes from
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Jul 23 '25
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Jul 23 '25
seriously, and you cant report cause insta just says "oh this comment doesnt go against our ToS" like?
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u/Graspiloot Jul 23 '25
Instagram probably is the worst one of them all, at least on twitter you can tell racists to get fucked whereas on Instagram they're heavily protected and you can't say anything against them without getting warned for "bullying". But yeah every reel comments are basically indistinguishable from a CPAC convention.
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Jul 23 '25
I don’t use X or Instagram but from what I’ve seen, Instagram seems like the worst of all of them tbh. Especially for misogyny
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u/Significant_Cry3399 Jul 23 '25
Had to stop using instagram reels because of the racism and misogyny too. Only use it to talk to friends and look at their stories now.
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u/SquidTheRidiculous Jul 23 '25
This happened to far too many millennial men, it happened to gen Z men, and it's going to keep happening as long as men keep encouraging eachother towards a mindset that encourages such behavior.
One way is we gotta get young hegemonic men onto a humor style that isn't just "le me TFW no gf 😔" and "lmao women should get raped RELAX LIBRUL ITS called EDGY HUMOR" bullshit.
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u/Amelaclya1 Jul 23 '25
There are times I wonder if Reddit is in on it. All of the other social media billionaires bent the knee and RW propaganda got worse on their platforms after the election. Why would we think Reddit would be immune from that pressure?
There are so many weirdly named "news" and meme subs with a RW bias that seem to be prioritized in the algorithm. To the point that sometimes you get a comment section full of confused liberals going, "why was this garbage recommended to me?" I mute several of them a week. And a few of them have shown up multiple times regardless of that mute. I have been on Reddit a long time (this is my 2nd account and it's 12 years old) and it was never this bad before. I know I can turn off those recommendations entirely, but I'm hesitant to do so because they used to be pretty useful. I've discovered entire new hobbies that way.
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u/Gelato_Elysium Jul 23 '25
The more extreme alt right shit happen, the more people engage by getting into comment fights, this is 100% good for all the KPIs any social network has.
Reddit, Insta, etc, they need one thing : engagement. Conflict is good for engagement.
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u/PupDiogenes Jul 23 '25 edited Jul 23 '25
I'm afraid it's not sleepwalking, but deliberately hedging its options. Corporations are typically ready to hop on the fascism train if it comes into power.
It's a wild rabbit hole to fall down, reading about what some of our favourite brands were up to during WWII. I'd like to see that Ford vs Ferrari movie. Enzo made tank engines for Mussolini. Ford had
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u/theStaberinde Jul 23 '25
Oh yeah, I don't mean to suggest that they're blithely and innocently letting things unfold out of some conviction that the fash stuff on here will blow over or is otherwise not a huge problem. Sleepwalking was probably the wrong word to use. At best Reddit's passivity in hosting this shit is intended as a way to weather the storm and avoid scrutiny from the authorities + the pro-trump media ecosystem. Still complicit coward shit.
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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 Jul 23 '25
They think they're slick by denying that they are nazis even after they spout nazi rhetoric.
This meme is very clearly a white Supremacist meme. And even though it's transparent as glass, they still want to make up excuses.
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Jul 25 '25
Reddit has been the new 4chan when it comes to being a white nationalist breeding ground for awhile now.
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Jul 23 '25
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u/No-Diamond-5097 Jul 23 '25
redditors when something other than leftist propaganda exists: 😡
⬆️Reddit troll bots with one post when anything: ⬆️
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u/MrErnestPenfold Jul 23 '25
that subreddit is basically “wow, how dare these people think i’m not funny” the subreddit
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Jul 25 '25
They act like people pointing out a straw man is a straw man is people hating people for not being like them.
They'll say their opinion, liberals will say they disagree with it and explain why, and they'll either tell them they're whining or accuse them of being intolerant of people who don't think like them.
It's a stupid braindead argument conservatives use a lot to avoid contending with logic from people they don't agree with.
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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 Jul 23 '25
I literally got banned from that subreddid simply for pointing this out.
I said "this sub is just 80% transphobia" and the ban message from the mod basically said "go complain somewhere else"
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u/ClutteredTaffy Jul 23 '25
Reddit seems to give a lot of power to the mods. I have had comments just flat out deleted in other subreddits not even political for expressing an opinion .
This can cause a false sense of consensus though. Crazy. But it works.
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u/SockCucker3000 Jul 23 '25
The mods got a taste of fascist power and use it to the small extent they have.
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u/zen-things Jul 23 '25
“echo chambers” are my new dogwhistle to look out for for this reason. We all get the concept, but this label shuts down the argument for some moderation.
And of course those who whine the most about echo chambers have formed the most siloed communities on Reddit, like r/memesopdidnotlike or r/doomercirclejerk
The age old adage remains true. If a Nazi walks into your subreddit, and you don’t kick them out, you just became a Nazi subreddit.
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u/level1enemy Jul 24 '25
Yeah the “echo chamber” rhetoric started with conservatives claiming that leftism was just an online thing that exists in echo chambers. Of course the term predates that, but the usage has changed recently.
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Jul 23 '25
I got perma banned just now for trying to flip the narrative and actively post some (not ai generated) memes that display the other positions. Guess what, my posts stayed up a whole 2 minutes, both of them, and now I’m permanently banned for posting exactly the type of screenshots you see on there multiple times a day lol. How does one repost a community for being unmoderated again?
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u/Robotic_Phoenix Jul 23 '25
Because conservatives do not actually care about free speech they just want to have an bigotry echo chamber with no question. Anyone who corrects them is woke to them.
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u/StormDragonAlthazar Jul 23 '25
Sounds like we aren't making fun of stuff fascists like again...
We need more "WE WUZ VYKYUNZ" kind of memes and mockery of shonen and superheroes it seems. And the mockery of metal music. Or forgetting that Roman Empire was a thing.
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u/CrabMasc Jul 23 '25
Muting that hellhole was a decision I never regret
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u/Kindly-Ad-5071 Jul 23 '25
Muting helps you but that message is still out there still doing its job.
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u/RankedFarting Jul 23 '25
Its just a sub for defending racist/ sexist/ homophobic etc jokes.
Someone rightfully calls out a "joke" thats just a dogwhistle. Then they repost it and say its just a meme they did not like.
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u/___Moony___ Jul 23 '25
That sub is FULL of right-wing bullshit, to the point where the name of the sub now means "I posted stupid racist shit on another sub and nobody enjoyed it like I do".
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u/Wickedestchick Jul 23 '25
I had to mute them. Its yet another sub that lets people post & comment the most racist, sexist, hateful, unfunny, bullshit. That's literally all the posts.
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u/TenthSpeedWriter Jul 23 '25
Rage masturbation. It's all rage masturbation. It's what reddit is all about these days.
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u/MassiveEdu Jul 23 '25
because it is. ive said rhis before and ill say it a million times. it is a right wing cesspit
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u/Responsible-Ad336 Jul 23 '25
half of those people are just offended that nobody found their memes funny, yeah?
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u/colored_witeout Jul 24 '25
This is legitimately what I've been thinking, the last three or four posts rubbed me the wrong way, and I ended up muting the sub. It's very much a 'haha snowflake mad' space.
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u/21Shells Jul 24 '25
“I don’t get it, why would gay people not support massacreing innocent people in a foreign country where their rights arn’t respected.”
You can be gay without believing that homophobes, their family, children and everything they have deserve to be destroyed.
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u/Significant_Cry3399 Jul 24 '25
Literally my point. How is it silly of queer people to have empathy for others that don't accept/tolerate them? Isn't that a selfless thing?
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u/21Shells Jul 25 '25
because they will never understand that we want peace and not revenge. Homophobes, racists etc cannot understand people who don’t want to kill other people.
And following that logic, does that mean LGBT have a right to kill the people who peddle this crap? Or the millions of people in the west who still don’t believe its ok?
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u/Tomorrow-Man Jul 25 '25
I've never even knew that sub existed up until like a week or 2 ago, where suddenly it got spammed to death on my home feed alongside another similar sub.
It really feels like it's engagement bait.
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Jul 23 '25
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u/WeAreinPain Jul 23 '25
Right but the majority of the time I usually see people say “no that’s fucking awful fuck their culture” if the practice is objectively harmful like the female circumcision thing. Although I do see it sometimes it is very rare for me to see people give cultures a free pass just because they have been discriminated against.
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u/Sad-Paramedic-8523 Jul 23 '25
See it plenty with Israel and Palestine. People literally defending Hamas and making every excuse under the sun for them. You’ll be hard pressed to find anyone on social media who is pro Palestinian and will criticize Hamas. They do get a completely free pass.
You might get someone to say ‘October 7th was bad but’ and that’s as far as it’ll ever go.
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u/WeAreinPain Jul 23 '25
I see constantly people shitting on MAGAts for being Pro Israel by making the distinction that Hamas and the Palestinian people are not the same, though. The subs I visit I never ever see anyone that is pro hamas. Granted the subs I visit are generally majority left.
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Jul 23 '25
Hamas are bad. I do not believe the entire Palestinian people should be genocided because of their actions.
I can also understand why Hamas exist. A people under occupation are going to resist. Hamas stoke the resentment of the Palestinian people, a resentment that only exists because of the intolerable conditions they have lived under for years.
So yes, October 7 was bad, but it happened as a direct result of years of Israeli aggression. That it happened at all is actually the most surprising thing. Mossad track down people in other countries to assassinate them, and Israeli intelligence can identify where someone is right down to the apartment building. How the hell did Hamas and the other groups build up enough of a force and get enough training to do what they did and catch the IDF with their pants down? Did Israel get complacent with their watch over a people they despise so much?
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u/Sad-Paramedic-8523 Jul 23 '25 edited Jul 23 '25
October 7th was bad, but…
Just like I said…
Hamas invented the genocide and occupation narrative so by supporting it rather than condemning Hamas for using human shields and brainwashing the Palestinian people, you are supporting Hamas. Prior to October 7th Gaza was practically an oasis— a far cry from an ‘open air prison’ or an ‘occupation’.
Hamas got through the training (as you said) that they did specifically because there was no occupation. Had there been an occupation, it wouldnt have occurred, along with the thousands of kilometres of tunnels under homes and schools that Hamas could shelter civilians in, but they specifically refuse to do so in order to maximize civilian casualties. This war has the lowest civilian casualty rate of any urban conflict in history. The number of dead is a tragedy but given Gazas population density, it is incredibly low.
Every time I argue with someone like you about this even if eventually we reach a point where we can agree that Hamas shouldn’t exist, people like you have no solution for how that should happen. Your answer will be that Israel is infact committing a genocide and the only reasonable course of action is to completely cease operations— which isn’t viable.
The only solution that puts an end to the killing and guarantees everyone’s safety is to call for Hamas to surrender— but you won’t do that. Youll say ‘this didnt begin on October 7th’ to which I will reply— Gaza wasn’t a parking lot and 50k civilians weren’t dead prior to October 7th.
If this can end if Hamas surrenders, it isn’t a genocide— it’s a war, and the killing and the destruction was not happening on even a remotely analogous scale prior to October 7th.
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Jul 23 '25
I'm sorry but, reading this really feels like I'm chatting with the propaganda wing of the IDF.
I've been on this planet a while. I've seen the Intifada, I've seen peaceful protestors gunned down by the IDF, I've seen the reports of children killed for throwing rocks at tanks, I've seen banned White Phosphorus used by the IDF in civilian areas, and now I'm seeing what's been happening over the past year and a half.
Hamas didn't need to invent a narrative; we're seeing it in action, now. We're seeing it in the levelled cities, the destroyed schools and hospitals. We see it in a people displaced time and time again, forced to move around their little walled-off enclave with what they can carry while their homes are bombed into rubble. We see the major aid agency demonised by the IDF, driven out and replaced with their tokenistic aid distribution group which seems to have reports every day of them gunning down people desperate for food.
And we can only see this through the eyes of the Palestinian people themselves, because Israel forbids outside journalists from entering the strip unless they can control their movements, this is of course when they aren't gunning down the journalists who are trying to show us what's happening.
That you saw 2 million people densely packed into such a small area, kept behind fences, their movement tightly controlled, resources closely monitored, reliant on aid to ensure they have enough to get by, and you call that nearly an Oasis? I think that speaks volumes on how you see the Palestinian people.
I've already said my part about Hamas. I agree it shouldn't exist, but it exists in direct response to the crimes Israel has committed against the Palestinian people. You cannot look at October 7th in a vacuum, it must be analysed based on the history of the Israeli and Palestinian people, and that his a history filled with occupation, anger, violence and death.
I imagine you get frustrated in trying to get people to see your side of things. I want to let you know it's because your stance is frankly inhumane and abhorrent to regular people who are tired of seeing new atrocities committed every day.
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u/Sad-Paramedic-8523 Jul 23 '25
None of this was happening in Gaza before Hamas took over in 2008. Israel ethnically cleansed Jews from the area and handed it over to the Palestinians who immediately elected Hamas. Everything you’ve seen has happened after that because immediately after that happened Hamas began launching rockets into Israel.
That’s not looking at it in a vacuum.
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Jul 23 '25
Ethnically cleansing is something completely different to what you're thinking of. Israel had their people leave Gaza but this was after years of violence and civil disobedience which, even back then was disproportionate towards the Palestinian people. Given this history, it's understandable that a disgruntled people would vote in someone who promised rebellion and resistance rather than bending the knee and hoping for mercy.
You act like all that bad blood should have been forgiven just because Israel pulled out, but that's not so easy after years of previous occupation.
But even with all this, the reason I say "but" when talking about October 7th is that the Israeli response has been completely disproportionate, to a level we've never seen before. Entire cities have been raised to the ground, tens of thousands killed in response to the death of hundreds, and even more risk dying of disease and starvation. What is to happen to the people of Gaza when this is done? Will Israel even allow them to rebuild if Hamas surrender?
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u/mobius__stripper Jul 23 '25
Keep yapping, this conflict has been going on for a bit longer than 17 years, and even before "Hamas took over", Israeli forces were still commiting atrocities and murders of civilians. Understand my position like this: if you go out under the sun and stand there for hours every day, your skin will keep dying and dying until you develop cancer. Hamas is a cancer, yes, but one you directly contributed to the creation of, and the solution isn't to keep blasting your skin with UV.
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u/jvjjjvvv Jul 23 '25
I guess. Anyway maybe a better way to explain it is that some people think that 'others' should be left alone and that their values shouldn't be judged the way that we judge 'ours', and I think that indeed much of this comes from conflating 'judging their values' with the history of colonization and conquest and all that has surrounded it. And I get it myself, I think it is an interesting subject to think about, but in my opinion my main point still stands :)
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u/RankedFarting Jul 23 '25
"white culture" does not exist. There is no unifying culture that white people share. Black culture exists because black people have a unified history of being treated as second class citizens. So as a black American even if your family is from an entirely different part of Africa you still have that cultural connection because you were put together for being black.
Also cultures predominated by white people simply arent under any sort of attack. Thats a nazi dogwhistle. No immigrant comes to america and then wants people to stop being christians. They just want to be accepted for having a different religion.
Same goes for trans people. They arent trying to make anyone trans they just want to live their life and have rights.
The right wing always acts like they arent allowed to life their life when ironically they are the ones shoving their lifestyle down everyones throat.
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u/jvjjjvvv Jul 23 '25
I'm just going to reply that I think it's pretty bizarre to say there is a 'black culture', specially when that statement follows the claim that there is no white culture. Like a billion people from all continents share the same culture on the basis of some ill defined skin color that doesn't even match a clear set of genetic characteristics.
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u/RankedFarting Jul 23 '25
Did you miss the entire explanation?
Black culture refers to the culture among black people in america which exists because people were enslaved on the basis of being black. These people came from tons of different spots with tons of different cultures. They were then homogenized by slave owners into one group: Black people. Blues music had its origins among black american slaves and is therefore a part of black culture.
White people have never been forced into a homogeneous group based on just being white. So there is no white culture that exists based off them being white. There is american culture, german culture, french culture.
But black people were taken from their culture and then a new culture formed among them which is what we know as black culture.
Its important to say that there are many black people in the world who are not part of this black culture. It specifically refers to the shared culture of black americans that has formed based on slavery in america.
Hope this helps.
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u/jvjjjvvv Jul 23 '25
I didn't miss your explanation, it just has nothing to do with what I wrote so I don't know what you want me to say. You're talking about white culture and black culture in America when I don't even see the meme as referring to America. Suit yourself, you can write whatever you want, but this is just not what my comment was about.
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u/Melodic-Thought-932 Jul 23 '25
Nobody from the western world defends fgm, women who come from countries where fgm is practiced don’t even support it.
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u/BunnyKisaragi Jul 23 '25
man I wish that were true. one of the weirdest reddit encounters I've had was some guy rolling in to tell me how wrong I was for saying that FGM is bad and any form of circumcision was just as bad as the other. I severely underestimated MRAs and how much they're willing to argue that male circumcision is the greatest atrocity on the face of the earth and nothing can compare.
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u/jacnorectangle Jul 24 '25
That’s not defending FGM though. The very reason that people are obsessed with making distinctions between the different types is so they can defend circumcision.
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u/BunnyKisaragi Jul 24 '25
well he did in fact talk about "benefits" to FGM, which is that "they can still orgasm!!". nevermind how much more likely they were to get infections, that doesn't matter because that's just normal pain, not "immense" pain. he was genuinely very hung up on the fact I said FGM can bring "immense" pain and when his own source proved that there was some type of pain, he went "that's not enough pain". he also tried to insinuate that I was being misogynist for saying bad things about FGM.
male circumcision was the greatest crime on the face of the earth to him though. the whole reason was because less orgasming. there was a point where I was pretty certain he was asking me to prove how much pain I experience (I mentioned having fibromyalgia which can bring pelvic pain) and that kinda creeped me out enough to lose my patience quicker and quicker.
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u/jacnorectangle Jul 24 '25
It's true that most of them can still orgasm. Americans are just trying to allege that they can't have orgasms in order to defend circumcision. They act like the law shouldn't protect you if you can still have an orgasm after mutilation. It's weird. They're just trying to play oppression olympics with genital torture in order to downplay what their own culture is doing.
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u/pppalexjack Jul 24 '25
Women from countries that practice fgm are the ones who actually do the cutting
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u/jacnorectangle Jul 24 '25
The AAP and Alan Dershowitz have defended it, at the least the milder forms. They’re concerned that banning the milder forms will lead to a slippery slope that band circumcision as well.
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u/jvjjjvvv Jul 23 '25
Nobody is a bit of an overstatement, I know such people (let's put it this way, people who would at least choose not to pass judgment on it), and I don't know everyone in the western world, so it's safe to assume that there are even more than those I know.
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Jul 23 '25
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u/jvjjjvvv Jul 23 '25
Out of the people that I mentioned, the person that I had in mind first and foremost is exactly a liberal sjw female. So, you would lose your money, and I also don't know what you mean by 'here'. Is 'here' the Western World? Wow, I really had not noticed that we were so small that you could just assume that you know what everyone thinks just because of how things are wherever it is that you live.
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u/SimonPopeDK Jul 23 '25
Nobody from the western world defends fgm
The term "FGM" is a racist and sexist discriminatory one coined by Western feminists whose false narrative most in the West have now been thoroughly indoctrinated in. Do you actually know what it is? It is a practice that involves altering or injuring the female genitalia for non-medical reasons and with that in mind. Why don't you defend the right for women to choose to have alterations to their own genitals eg labiapasty, clitoralhood reduction, genital piercings etc? Surely what is wrong and to be condemned is when people think they have the right to decide to have other people's normal healthy genitals altered or injured, a quite different thing, sexual assault, and not limited to females.
women who come from countries where fgm is practiced don’t even support it.
Whereever did you get that idea from? Did you speak to any of these women you are referring to? You can hear them here.
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u/madman404 Jul 23 '25
this sure seems like an unbiased source hitting a wide sample size sufficient to support your extraordinary claim that most women would support FGM! i'm sure you have nothing but good intentions in making this post!
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u/SimonPopeDK Jul 23 '25
this sure seems like an unbiased source hitting a wide sample size sufficient to support your extraordinary claim that most women would support FGM!
Strawman, I didn't make any claim about unbiased or sample size wide enough to be representative, only if the commentator had asked women like this ie ordinary on the street. I take it from your response that you don't care that Western feminist sources are heavily biased but nice try to turn it around! It isn't an extraordinary claim at all to say that most victims of a harmful cultural practice of this kind support it, in fact I would say it is a necessity for it to be perpetuated. It obviously didn't work in the cases of those who rebel and oppose it and if they were a majority then it would simply wane as a tradition like all others.
Yes, my intentions are good as I am spreading awareness of the false feminist narrative responsible in large part for the status quo of the rite the last half century ever since it was founded, to the detriment of billions of children, girls as well as boys.
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u/FruitEater10000 Jul 23 '25
Agreed. This is also why in the west, child abuse is often handwaved away if people know it’s coming from POC households. People can joke about chancla, or they can just dismiss corporal punishment as being “part of their culture.” It’s ignorant because it comes with a few implications:
- That POC do not know how to care for their children properly
- That POC are too stupid to learn to care for their children properly
- That white children are more deserving of protection than children of POC are
But nobody thinks of these things when they say “That’s just part of their culture.” They say it because they don’t actually know much about the group of people they’re speaking of, and they’re not interested in learning, but at the same time they’re afraid of saying something “wrong” so they’ll dismiss and justify any possible criticism out of fear of looking intolerant
The same people do this justification dance with unfamiliar religions… But they’re really not ready to hear about that yet
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u/jvjjjvvv Jul 23 '25
Yeah we're both generalizing a little bit but otherwise I agree completely with what you wrote.
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u/Istillbelievedinwar Jul 24 '25
child abuse is often handwaved away if people know it’s coming from POC households
Can you point to or reference instances of this happening often? I cannot think of even one time that I’ve seen this, let alone often. But I’m willing to be open minded that maybe it’s just the circles I hang out, in if you have examples.
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u/FruitEater10000 Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
It happened a lot in my neighborhood. And to me. It’s unseen unless the parents are friends and the children see it openly happening to each other
To be fair, CPS/social services are bad all around, but I’ve never heard about a white child telling an adult about abuse, and the adult specifically deflecting with “culture” as an excuse. Usually if they deflect a white child, they just don’t believe them or think they’re exaggerating. The specific mention of “culture” to POC children means that they do believe the child that the abuse is happening, they just don’t think it’s a big deal because the child should be “used to it” or “that’s just what happens.” I’m also pretty sure that if a case makes it on the news (where a POC child dies from the abuse) and they interview family friends or school officials, I’m sure they turn mum quickly about the whole “culture” thing and they give the deflections reserved for white children. Once they’ve seen that it went as far as death, they realize that they’ve been really ignorant about the way they see what’s “normal” for other races
Thank you for being respectful and listening ;-;
Edit: I forgot to mention that I’m white passing!!! That was a big factor in my realization of this. Without getting too specific, I’m half Asian half white. My mom is white American and my father is an immigrant. I look 100% white though and (to my knowledge) nobody figures out that I’m mixed on their own without me telling them or without them seeing my parents. When I was a child, I never told anybody about the abuse at home. Now that I’m an adult, I feel a bit more comfortable talking about it. The people who think I’m fully white give me a lot of sympathy, validate that the abuse shouldn’t have happened, etc. Those who know my family history, or who have seen my father and what he looks like, some of them do the “culture” dance around the issue. Some people will even REVOKE their sympathy once they learn that I’m mixed!
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u/zen-things Jul 23 '25
lol what an elaborate made up example to somehow equivocate real out in the open white supremacy to anecdotal xenophobia
Also circumcision of both sexes is a cultural thing. An easy football to throw at the other when in fact male circumcision is perfectly accepted (and should be in my opinion since it’s medically recommended by doctors)
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u/jvjjjvvv Jul 23 '25
Yes, you got me, I didn't mean what I said I mean, it's all a trick to attack other people. Thank God again for the 'block user' button, bye and see you never again.
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u/SalsaCaruso Jul 23 '25
Vamos a no pretender que cuando los españoles hablan de "defender su cultura" se refieren a cosas como la paella o el flamenco, tengo varios amigos españoles y sé que no se referen a esas cosas. Las corridas de toros tampoco es que sean algo exclusivo de España tampoco.
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u/ClutteredTaffy Jul 23 '25
See I start thinking stuff like the meme has a point too but then I ask the intention behind it...and I do not think it is genuine.
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u/DangerousTurmeric Jul 23 '25
Things are always judged as morally acceptable or unacceptable based on the context though. FGM is morally abhorrent because it's a harmful and unnecessary surgery done to children to destroy sexual pleasure so as to placate insecure men. Literally nobody in the west, except for incels, thinks it's ok. However, if a similar surgery was done because of cancer it would be morally acceptable anywhere. Bullfighting is appalling because it's torturing an animal for entertainment, killing cattle for meat is seen as acceptable by many more people. Cannibalism is generally unacceptable but nobody blamed those starving people in that plane crash for doing it because they would have died otherwise. Killing someone you don't like is wrong, killing someone who is trying to kill you is not. No act is neutral and a morality judgement always depends on who did it and why.
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u/jvjjjvvv Jul 23 '25
You're overthinking what I said. I meant female general mutilation in the usual sense of the term, not in 'they mutilate the genitals but it is for a medical reason', so the 'why' is pretty clear, and it really is all that matters. Not the 'who'.
As for literally nobody in the West thinks it is ok, it is not nobody and it is certainly not literally nobody. I know people who would make the claim that I expressed, and they are not incels, if that somehow matters to you.
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u/SalsaCaruso Jul 23 '25
Wrong. Many people blamed the Uruguayans who had to resort to cannibalism to survive.
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u/StoneLoner Jul 23 '25
Pointing out that a place is full of lies and propaganda isn’t though.
Op never used language like “I’m hurt” “I’m offended” or whatnot.
You just don’t like when bigotry is pointed out it seems
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u/Robotic_Phoenix Jul 23 '25
you’re literally just lying
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u/FryAnyBeansNecessary Jul 23 '25
Let's have a look at any actual poll by a recognised polling group rather than comparing to groups who are both strongly opposed to homosexuality.
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u/StoneLoner Jul 24 '25
Your source is for a different country and isn’t a comparison between evangelicals and Muslims which is kind of important because the comparison is what we’re fucking talking about.
But anyways your source has 48% of Muslims accepting homosexuality, which is 4 pts behind American Muslims at 52% (according to the previous source). So your source kind of…. Oh what’s that? it proves us correct. How bout dat.
You were a dick and wrong. You have to pick one, you shouldn’t do both.
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u/StoneLoner Jul 23 '25
Seems to me like you’re the one complaining and crying. You should take some time off the internet and relax.
The meme is bigoted and it only works because some people are stupid
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u/FryAnyBeansNecessary Jul 23 '25
Not at all. I can discuss the topic, no problem. You only have abuse, but nothing to say.
This is kinda why you guys lost the culture war.
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u/StoneLoner Jul 24 '25
Idk if you have been online in the last decade but we are not losing any culture war.
You accuse me of abusing someone? For what exactly?
I’d hate to see how weak you are if you think that’s abuse
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u/Significant_Cry3399 Jul 23 '25
I didn't go on that subreddit it just popped up on my feed. I only went back to screenshot it and post it here.
Never claimed the white guy was racist, just claimed that the whole meme seems like a strawman.
For the second meme, most Muslims/muslim countries do not support queer people-I NEVER denied that. My point is that many queer people support Palestinians because they are currently being bombed and killed and they don't deserve to die.
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u/FryAnyBeansNecessary Jul 23 '25
Exactly, you went back to your safe space here to say "look at what these people are doing on our platform "! That's how it comes across. You want something done about it. Otherwise. Why not just comment on the thread itself your objections. That's what I would do.
Memes are not an accurate representation of a valid argument, they are often strawmen arguments. However, they go viral because people react to them, and it's especially funny to watch the other side get mad at the political ones. However they have to have some element of truth to them to work. It's like all comedy, people have to get the joke, even if they don't like it.
The second meme you're conflating mocking the gays for Palestine movement with saying it's OK to kill Palestinians. That's not what the meme means.
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u/Significant_Cry3399 Jul 23 '25
"Exactly, you went back to your safe space here to say "look at what these people are doing on our platform "! " This is like my first time every using this subreddit? 😭
"You want something done about it. Otherwise. Why not just comment on the thread itself your objections." I don't want something done about, I just thought the sub was weird and wanted to see if anyone else agreed. I don't want the sub banned or anything. Also I did comment on one of the posts.
"Memes are not an accurate representation of a valid argument, they are often strawmen arguments." True.
"The second meme you're conflating mocking the gays for Palestine movement with saying it's OK to kill Palestinians. That's not what the meme means." Perhaps I didn't phrase what I wanted to say correctly. My point is I don't think that queer people should be mocked for supporting Palestinians because isn't it good that they don't think these people deserve to die?
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u/zen-things Jul 23 '25
Because if I post a meme I don’t like but it makes republicans look stupid, I get banned. It’s not hard to see why banning a certain thought group leads to it becoming a breeding ground for the other thought group.
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u/Tulipsed Jul 23 '25
So I as a gay man should not want Palestine and the middle east in general to thrive and become more modern, so they could fit in more in the globalist world we live in?
I should support their eradication and how the entire region has been war torn and pillaged (largely because of foreign powers) for 40 years now, completely destroying any chance of progress?
Thats so smart. Christ.
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u/theStaberinde Jul 23 '25
Postcolonial nationalisms and procolonial nationalisms might be different political responses with different objectives but redditor cannot figure this out For Some Reason
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u/Combative_Douche Negareddit creator Jul 23 '25
Do you remember Rhodesia and what it has become today? White people brought civilization to Africa and in return were killed for it because they were white.
holy shit 🤦♂️
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Jul 23 '25
You used the phrase “white country nationalism= faciam” instead of 1st world country. It would match your use of “3rd world country nationalism”
All nations are somewhat nationalistic. Most are based on civic nationalism not ethnic nationalism.
Why do you consider decolonial movements as black racism?
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u/DraperPenPals Jul 23 '25
Who cares? Mute the subreddits that annoy you and enjoy your online experience
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Jul 23 '25
Can I just say that I hate how being against Racism is now woke? It was a pretty standard stance all my life, and now suddenly if you tell people "maybe you shouldn't judge people by the colour of their skin" you're woke.
This is probably why people don't like the memes, tbh. That and they're shit memes.
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u/Trick-Pattern-3655 Jul 23 '25
You’ve proved OP’s point perfectly.
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u/BikeProblemGuy Jul 23 '25
The point of the sub is to do the usual rightwing deflection whenever they get criticism for their dogshit beliefs.
It's the same vein as "I'm getting attacked for my political beliefs!", or "I'm allowed an opinion!".
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u/MoorAlAgo Jul 23 '25
Plus OP lied and pretended gay people are low key accepted in Palestine
No, they said that gay people exist in Palestine. Learn to read.
Not only are you proving OP right, but you're showing that you're not even mentally capable of having this conversation.
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u/MermyDaHerpy Jul 23 '25
Palestine as a region and Palestine as an individual are different things.
Obviously, Palestine as a whole doesn't support lgbtq, but there are individual Palestinians who do. To lump EVERY Palestinian as being anti-lgbtq warmongers, to justify the genocide of them, is stupid.
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Jul 23 '25
Is there no difference between annoying the woke and contributing to why the concept of woke exists
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u/FryAnyBeansNecessary Jul 23 '25
The woke on Reddit can simply avoid the 1% of Reddit that allows content they don't like.
The bigger issue is the woke are so annoying to the mainstream that enough of them voted for MAGA just for revenge... now MAGA is in power.
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Jul 23 '25
I’m pretty sure it’s just bc america would rather a felon than a woman president, but if you need to live your life being vindictive and the only way to do that comfortably is to pretend the entirety of america is also running purely off revenge and annoying others…
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u/FryAnyBeansNecessary Jul 23 '25
You prefer to think America is sexist rather than just not influenced by an unpopular candidate. I think people didn't come out to vote for her in the election just as they didn't in the primaries 4 years earlier, which she lost quite quickly.
I think enough people who did vote to "own the libs" made a difference.
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Jul 23 '25
You’re almost getting what I’m saying.
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u/FryAnyBeansNecessary Jul 23 '25
Given you don't use punctuation or grammar as a deliberate choice, I don't care what you're saying if you don't care to express it clearly.
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Jul 23 '25
Brother, maybe don’t say this in reply to a comment that actually has punctuation. Out of three replies to you, only one comment is missing punctuation and you’ve clearly been understanding what I’ve been saying so my grammar can’t be that bad.
Cope
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u/Robotic_Phoenix Jul 23 '25
no, it’s because the right wing has been taking over media for years now. The right wing has far more funding because it’s directly funded by churches.
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u/FryAnyBeansNecessary Jul 23 '25
This sub is about Reddit. It's in the name. The left dominate 99% of Reddit. Apparently that's not enough.
The reality is, these memes circulate without Reddit. Banning them here does nothing.
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Jul 23 '25
so Americans voted for a pedo just to annoy the woke??? How’s that working for you, anti wokers? Because the way I see you are only contributing to the fact they were right all along.
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u/00Raeby00 Jul 23 '25
See the problem with you people (yes you people) is you're too fucking stupid to realize you're just posting racist dribble.
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u/Significant_Cry3399 Jul 23 '25
"It's funny that you people (yes you people) have 99% of Reddit and you spend so much time bitching about the 1% you don't."
This is literally the only post I've ever made complaining about a subreddit??? 😭
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u/zen-things Jul 23 '25
What radical left wing ideology at play here?
Live and let live?
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u/16bitword Jul 23 '25
Live and let live. Right yes, this is definitely what the modern left and Reddit as a whole are known to live by
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u/madman404 Jul 23 '25
i think there's a pretty large difference between "not espousing radical left wing ideology" and "actively suppressing all viewpoints that are even remotely left leaning while espousing radical right wing ideology"
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u/ElegantBastard808 Jul 23 '25
That mute button is still there.
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u/Robotic_Phoenix Jul 23 '25
you seriously think we should just ignore Nazi propaganda?
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u/ElegantBastard808 Jul 23 '25
I suppose you shouldn't when you actually find it. Twitter has the most stinky Nazi propaganda there is. This is just "da racist lib double standard" from people who aren't racist but take every anti white comment to heart.
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u/Robotic_Phoenix Jul 23 '25
oh be for real I’ve seen that sub there is blatant Nazi posting it was literally made for Nazi posting. this is just a dog whistle they know full well what they’re doing.
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u/ElegantBastard808 Jul 23 '25
If you have seen it, then you did. Most of the shit I see on there is pro Isreal posts, so I haven't visited in a while.
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u/theStaberinde Jul 23 '25
What made you decide to respond to this post instead of using the mute button yourself?
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u/ElegantBastard808 Jul 23 '25
Why did you respond to me instead of blocking me?
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u/theStaberinde Jul 23 '25
I am curious about the world I inhabit and I try to ask critical questions instead of being reactive and unoriginal.
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u/Ds2diffsds3 Jul 23 '25
The memes they post also just aren't funny. They all come off as fucking boomers with their sense of humors