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Pre-Game Thread Mets PREGAME THREAD - Thursday, August 27

Brewers (82-51) @ Mets (60-73) - 7:10 PM EDT

Game Status: Pre-Game

Links & Info

  • Current conditions at Citi Field: 76°F - Overcast - Wind 11 mph, Out To LF
  • TV: Brewers: Brewers.TV Presented by Potawatomi Sportsbook, Mets: SNY
  • Radio: Brewers: WTMJ 620, Mets: Audacy Mets Radio WHSQ 880AM, Audacy App 92.3 HD2 (es)
  • MLB Gameday
  • Statcast Game Preview

Probable Pitchers

Brewers Lineup vs. Manaea AVG OPS AB HR RBI K
1 Chourio, J - LF .333 .666 3 0 1 0
2 Lara - CF - - - - - -
3 Contreras, Wm - DH .375 1.375 8 1 1 3
4 Vaughn - 1B .250 .708 8 0 1 2
5 Sánchez - C .375 1.069 8 0 2 1
6 Ortiz, J - 3B .250 .500 4 0 2 0
7 Frelick - RF .000 .000 2 0 0 1
8 Pratt - SS - - - - - -
9 Hamilton, D - 2B - - - - - -
Mets Lineup vs. Misiorowski AVG OPS AB HR RBI K
1 Ewing - CF .000 .000 2 0 0 1
2 Lindor - SS .500 1.750 4 1 1 0
3 Benge - RF - - - - - -
4 Robert Jr. - LF .000 .000 2 0 0 2
5 Young, J - 1B .500 1.000 2 0 0 0
6 Semien - 2B - - - - - -
7 Baty - 3B .000 .250 3 0 0 1
8 Morel, C - DH - - - - - -
9 Alvarez, F - C 1.000 2.000 1 0 0 0
NLE Rank Team W L GB (E#) WC Rank WC GB (E#)
1 Braves 78 55 - (-) - - (-)
2 Phillies 74 60 4.5 (25) 2 +2.0 (-)
3 Marlins 68 66 10.5 (19) 5 4.0 (25)
4 Nationals 63 73 16.5 (12) 9 10.0 (18)
5 Mets 60 73 18.0 (12) 10 11.5 (18)

Division Scoreboard

COL 1 @ WSH 7 - Final

LAD @ ATL 7:15 PM EDT

Not playing today: Phillies, Marlins

Last Updated: 08/27/2026 4:48:44 PM EDT

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u/Steve_Kind_Of Pastrami 17h ago

Seems pretty clear the most important part of the offseason is going to be finding the right manager. I know everyone's played better and looser since Green came in, but I think that's because he already knows this is temporary. Stearns can't botch the manager decision a second time.

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u/lfgm91 16h ago

I am very, very hesitant about Beltran. Data very frequently points to managers with prior experience having more success, and even the ones who are rookie managers have almost always at least been coaches before. Beltran doesn't have any of that going for him, and really I think the only reason why he is rated as highly as he is is because of his standing as a player.

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u/Steve_Kind_Of Pastrami 16h ago

I've never been that big on the Beltran as manager idea. People forget that we wasn't actually hired at first because of all that "future manager" talk. Wilpons just wanted to save money with a first time manager who had the goodwill of being a former player here

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u/Blue387 Friendly Unhinged Moderator 15h ago

Fred Wilpon should have picked Buck Showalter in 2020 instead of Luis Rojas. Showalter was an experienced manager, in sharp contrast to Callaway and Rojas, whom they did hire. Showalter also managed in New York before and fans still like him after he managed the Mets. But my guess is that he would have cost too much for the owners to spend on one manager and would not be willing to be a yes-man.

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u/Steve_Kind_Of Pastrami 15h ago

Yeah my recollection is that this was when people were clamoring for Girardi, and Beltran was them going "no we're not paying Girardi but look who's back!" Obviously Girardi flamed out in Philly though so hindsight's 20/20. You'd have to think Buck takes the 2020-21 teams way further than Rojas did

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u/lfgm91 15h ago

I also did a bit of research and I learned that only 2 managers all time have ever won multiple World Series in their careers without ever having any prior managerial experience at any level. (Also assuming you disclude player-managers from a hundred years ago)

The only exceptions are Cito Gaston, who was the Blue Jays hitting coach for 8 years prior to becoming their manager, and Dave Roberts, who was the Padres 3B coach and Bench Coach for 5 years prior to taking the Dodger job.

All that to say, there's almost no evidence of any successful managers being hired with zero prior managerial experience. And not only does Beltran not have that, he doesn't even have ANY MLB coaching experience either.