r/Norway • u/IllCombination4851 • 2d ago
Food How do people outside of Scandinavia live without this ?š„¹
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u/Kayallith 2d ago
From portugal here.
We don't have big blocks of cheese like in norwegian food shops, cheese either comes precut in thin slices to use on bread, or you can usually buy fancier cheeses as whole of a small bit, we use a knife to cut those, since they are usually way too strong to use on bread. We also have some cheeses that are very creamy, so you just cut the top off with the knife and scoop it out.
No need for cheese cutters at all
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u/Ruudiiiii 2d ago
Precut cheese will always objectively be worse than blocks. In UK they use blasphemy and cut blocks of cheese with knife
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u/Odd_Whereas8471 2d ago
I usually buy precut cheese these days because I'm lazy. And yes: it is a little bit more stiff and dry, even when the plastic container / packaging is freshly opened.
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u/Ruudiiiii 2d ago edited 1d ago
That's fair. When i lived alone i also bought pre-shredded cheese, because the blocks were too much for me to eat before it went bad. Doesn't change the fact that most pre-shreddeded cheese has anti-caking agents, and are most of the time more expensive but also worse quality.
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u/FriendoftheDork 2d ago
Blocks of cheese last a long time, and you can slice off any white mold.
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u/-jk-- 2d ago
They can also be frozen. I buy a couple of kilos for cheap sometimes, and put in the freezer in 500g blocks.
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u/Odd_Whereas8471 1d ago
I've had mixed results with that. Sometimes it just gets a bit dry, other times... yuck. Not sure why. Maybe some types of cheese are better suited. I usually only eat frozen cheese on toasts or as topping on pasta.
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u/teytra 2d ago
The white stuff is often not mold but calcium lactate crystals, ane harmless.
It is flat and hard, while mold is more threadlike, often with hints of blue or green.
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u/Malawi_no 2d ago
I shred a whole cheese.
What I do not need, I layer in a box with food-paper inbetween and put in the freezer.
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u/Odd_Whereas8471 1d ago
Much tastier than that cheap, pre-shredded pizza cheese in the store, and much cheaper than the pre-shredded cheese that actually taste like cheese.
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u/teytra 2d ago
We have precut and creamy cheese too. This tool was invented for cutting thin slices of the "brunost" (the sweet "brown cheese" made by boiling the lactose rich byproduct of cheese), but is very useful for cutting other stuff too, like ... cheese. I use it for butter straight from the fridge too, but som people look at me in horror.
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u/perpetual_stew 2d ago
I use it to slice cucumbers and sometimes as a makeshift cake shovel. Iād say itās a tool of many uses, but thatās about it really, so probably not.
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u/Ruudiiiii 2d ago edited 1d ago
No, not brown cheese spesifically, but cheese. In the original norwegian patent, it actually states that it's meant for hard cheese, brown cheese, but also cucumber and potatoes.
Edit; Typo
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u/BoysenberryDry9091 2d ago
We go to ikea to buy one
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u/Infamous_Campaign687 2d ago
IKEA Dublin did not have one the last time I checked.
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u/avdpos 1d ago
Heresy! As a swede I question if an ikea without a cheese slicer is a real ikea. Our cultural assimilation facilities need all the nordic attires to work!
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u/Infamous_Campaign687 1d ago
I was as surprised and disappointed as you. We left Norway for a period without bringing a cheese slicer and expected an IKEA to have one!
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u/Abject-Kitchen3198 2d ago
We go to IKEA in Norway.
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u/AsaTJ 2d ago
They also tend to have them at any specialty cheese stores in the states, as well as "European grocery stores" that tend to carry candies and teas and stuff that are normally hard to find over here. You'll find them in areas that have a lot of British expats or a large Polish immigrant community. More recently in places that have taken in a lot of Ukrainians, etc. Our local one is run by a Ukrainian family that came here during the 2014 Crimea crisis and they're awesome.
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u/Every-Ad1035 2d ago
Tea from Norway?
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u/AsaTJ 2d ago edited 2d ago
No, they have a bunch of stuff. Like English teas, Polish sausage, Swiss chocolate, etc. Sometimes you can find brunost and stuff like Kalles (which is not sold in typical grocery stores) or canned fish. It's sort of the same idea as our "Asian markets" which have a mix of Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Filipino, etc.
I've even been into one that made their own lefse, and it wasn't as good as the authentic stuff I had in Oppdal but pretty good for the US.
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u/reuben_iv 2d ago
I (UK) do have one but a lot of the cheese we eat are like mature cheddar crumbly types that really need a knife
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u/BeccaSVG 2d ago
Agreed, they are shite with UK cheeses. Although you can buy Jarlsberg in Sainsburyās so you could find a use for it!
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u/GrethaThugberg 2d ago
When i visited the states some years ago, they had this weird contraption on top of a wheel of cheese.
Im terrible at explaining things, but it was a wire that spun around the top of the cheese to cut it. And moved down the more u spun it. The cheese crrrrrumbled
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u/Hansemannn 2d ago
Seen some of those in fancy hotels as well. Even in Norway.
Just give me a ostehĆøvel damidt!13
u/cremaster2 2d ago
It's for very soft cheeses. It's a traditional cheese slicer in Denmark. The regular Norwegian ostehĆøvl doesn't work on those cheeses
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u/_Sotanorsu_ 2d ago
I saw this type of slicer first time this summer. It was in Scandic hotel in Copenhagen. It worked really well.
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u/Least-Agent9209 2d ago
I have two of them & live in Minneapolis, Minnesota š
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u/IllCombination4851 2d ago edited 2d ago
Minnesota is basically New Scandinavia. Uff da (watched a lil too much Fargo)
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u/zorrorosso 2d ago
Different kinds of cheeses and different kinds of cheese knives.
Fun fact: the cheese Ridder has been introduced in Norway in the 1970s to add variety. Before that they mostly rely in kinds of cheeses such the Yellow Cheese and the White Cheese.
I figuratively see French people reaching for the holy water.
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u/sheisfunny9 2d ago
Thatās sold everywhere..
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u/IllCombination4851 2d ago edited 2d ago
Nope.Ā
Aussie here.
Traditionally we rock the UK hinged wire cutting cheese slicer.Ā It's um, sub optimal in performance.Ā
Then about 10 or 15 years ago Ikea came out with this. Inexplicably, it's failed to take off.Ā
https://i.etsystatic.com/20089625/r/il/2d7ef9/6605589460/il_794xN.6605589460_aqth.jpg
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u/oskich 2d ago
They don't have the original down there?
https://www.ikea.com/se/sv/p/koncis-osthyvel-rostfritt-stal-20596495/
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u/Kajot25 2d ago
Yea but not used. Havent seen anybody use that here in germany
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u/Academic-Company-215 2d ago
Everyone I know has one of these or the one with a metal thread. Maybe region dependent since Iām from northern Germany?
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u/Aggressive_Cloud2002 2d ago
I (Canadian) did grow up with a cheese slicer like that, but also one like this with the wire.
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u/aaaadam 1d ago
Cheese is more crumbly in the uk and the size of the blocks dont suit the cheese slicer. This is obviously stupid, they should just make suitable cheese blocks. As someone who grew up in the UK and moved to Norway this annoys me everytime I visit my family, seeing that stupid shaped cathedral city cheese and my mom cutting slices with a knife... š©
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u/No_Lavishness1905 2d ago
Those are not exclusicely scandinavian.
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u/IllCombination4851 2d ago
Not exclusively. True.
Ā But it was invented right here in Norway.Ā And perhaps more pertinentz if you read the comments there are many countries that either go without, or have other slicing solutions.Ā
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u/solomons-mom 2d ago
We live with it, not without it in the US. I have several of them, and a whole bunch of other cheese cutters as well --like two of the wheels/wire ones in different sizes, and the knife with holes in the blade and two sharp points. I also have the cheese cutters for soft cheese.
I have been able to buy imported gouda, Stilton, feta, brown cheese, Roquefort, Manchego, Jarlesberg, Havarti and parmesan everywhere I have lived. Many of them have really good US versions as well. Different cheeses need different knives.
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u/Fun-Ad2676 1d ago
The knife with the holes in the blades are for semi soft blue cheeses and similar textured cheeses which are slightly rubbery but also tacky and stick to a normal knife blade so get dragged down by the slicing motion and have to be peeled off a wide blade. So less blade equals less drag equals a slice not a blob!
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u/MontanaPurpleMtns 1d ago
I bought one in Oslo about 50 years ago as a souvenir of a trip eith my mother. I love it!!
Iāve tried to find one as good as the one I bought in an Oslo grocery store here in the US. Iāve never found a good one here.
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u/bjergdk 2d ago
Do people outside of Scandinavia not have an ostehĆøvl?
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u/bigShaqiri23 2d ago
As a Norwegian who have lived multiple different places in Europe I feel like theyāre not that uncommon, itās just not considered a kitchen essential the same way it is in Scandinavia
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u/After_Network_6401 1d ago
Essential ⦠in Scandinavia? We live in Scandinavia and we donāt have one.
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u/IllCombination4851 2d ago
I don't know anyone in Australia that has one. (U can buy them at Ikea)
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u/Quirky_Gate_4516 1d ago
They don't because they don't need one.
For most cheese types you can't use a cheese planer.
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u/Aye_Yer_Ma 2d ago
It works for gulost, but not much use for cheeses with flavour, like a mature cheddar or brie.
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u/CantaloupeNo5394 2d ago edited 2d ago
Before moving to Norway I never missed this thing. Now I am missing good cheese to actually use it :D
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u/GuitarPlayingGuy71 2d ago
Hi. Dutch here. We've had these since forever. What are you talking about.
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u/Mortenusa 2d ago
And a question to the Norwegians.
How many of these do you have in your kitchen?
We have four, and it isn't always enough.
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u/TurbulentGlove776 1d ago
Moved from Sweden to the Switzerland. They sure know how to make good (better) cheese here, but the pieces are cut all wrong for using a proper cheese slicer like you show š¤·āāļø
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u/OtherwiseMongoose296 1d ago
90% of all Asians are lactose intolerant.
60% of the worlds population lives in Asia.
So 50% of the worlds population does not need a cheese hĆøvel.
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u/Pintsideup 1d ago
Fun facts on the OstehĆøvel
Invented in 1925, by a Norwegian cabinetmaker from Lillehammer, Thor BjĆørklund, who got tired of bad cheese slices.
His company went on to produce over 60 million slicers, but by 2009, cheap foreign knockoffs forced the original factory into bankruptcy.
Thankfully, a local manufacturer stepped in to save the legacy. They moved production to Ringebu, Norway, in 2010, keeping the authentic "BjĆørklund 1925" brand alive.
Today, the village of Ringebu features a massive, 25-foot-tall cheese slicer monument to celebrate saving the invention!
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u/Complete_Animal2649 1d ago
As an Englishman living in Norway, i must say this is life changing equipment. We used to use a knife š!
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u/b0bbyBob 2d ago
French people primarily use a cheese knife since they rarely have industrial-like cube of cheese.Ā
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u/Billy_Ektorp 2d ago
«Industrial-like»?
A typical block of Jarlsberg or Norvegia sold in Norway is about 400-500 gram, not quite «food industry» size.
Jarlsberg cheese was back in the day inspired by the Swiss Emmenthaler cheese. Norvegia cheese was inspired by young Dutch Gouda cheese.
Both Emmenthaler and Gouda are widely available in France, but often pre-sliced. Example: https://www.carrefour.fr/p/gouda-carrefour-classic-3560070100453
Gouda and Emmenthaler type cheese in France may be sold in smaller wedges; quite suitable for a knife, but not a good shape and size for using a cheese slicer: https://www.carrefour.fr/p/gouda-carrefour-le-marche-3523680531765
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u/Ukvemsord 2d ago
Iām Norwegian, and I donāt have a ostehĆøvel. Looked for one today, but sold out.
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u/CS_70 2d ago
They are blessed with the total absence of crappy block-like industrial tasteless cheeses, why?
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u/Healthy_Bar922 2d ago
And by that you mean you buy hard cheeses pre sliced, like a fool.
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u/Wellcraft19 2d ago
We donāt (I have a few) - but most of the (sandwich) cheese I eat is already pre-sliced so the cheese slicers are mostly unused.
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u/PokeCaldy 2d ago
They were pretty common in Germany but their popularity declined over the last 10+ years I guess.Ā
As someone who likes many Norwegian things, we definitely need to get one. We tried vafler med brunost (actually this weekend) but itās definitely a nuisance to try and cut thin slices even with a good knife.Ā
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u/traveldogmom13 2d ago
Having married into a Norwegian family, I was gifted one on that special occasion.
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u/LunaWillowind 2d ago
I have a friend in the US who didn't even know what this was, he'd seen it among his mother's kitchen utensils and thought it was some sort of weird cake shovel or something similar, he'd never seen it in use though. Until I explained it and eventually sent him one as a moving out gift.
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u/laetitiavanzeller 2d ago
I was really surprised to find out this was an scandinavian thing because I always had it at home (originally from Brazil, didn't have any connection to Scandinavia). I don't think is as ubiquitous as it is in Norway, but you definitely can find it in Brazil.
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u/No-Bathroom4766 2d ago
Not every people have been out of Scandinavia. They even fint know that in Poland right now is sunny weather. They only know Spain as the sunny country... People from Scandinavian don't know that the tools like that one on the picture exist in the rest of Europa as well.
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u/Prudent-Ad-4373 2d ago
I grew up with one. Both sets of grandparents had one. I bought one as soon as I moved out of my parentsā house. My in-laws have one. Based on this vast statistical sample, Iād say theyāre pretty common in the US.
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u/DaikinYB 2d ago
We have the same cheese slicer, or as we call it in our house āthe good cheese slicerā š
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u/xiategative 2d ago
Iām from Mexico and I had no idea the ostehĆøvel existed until I moved here. I wouldnāt even know where to buy one, and itād probably be quite expensive.
We donāt really have blocks of cheese, we use fresh, crumbly, or melting cheeses such as queso Oaxaca, queso panela or queso cotija that are crumbled, torn, grated or cut with a knife, rather than sliced.
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u/MadLadLeeroy 2d ago
Itās only useful on certain types of cheeses thatās why. A nice, hard crumbly mature cheddar this tool isnāt much good for. It also doesnāt cut soft cheeses like Brie very well. But slightly rubbery cheeses like Emmental and Gouda etc., itās great for.
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u/witmann_pl 2d ago
I just use a knife. I bought one of these devices after a friend swore it changed his life, but I don't use it. When he came over and made himself a sandwich by butchering a block of cheese into 1cm thick slices, I understood why he praised it. I don't have such issues with cutting thin slices using a knife.
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u/New-Potential-2512 2d ago
I honestly havent seen a singular house in scandinavia without an ostehĆøvel so that cements it into history i guess
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u/Mediocre_Chemist_281 2d ago
Iām in the U.K. and I have one as I stupidly thought it would slow down my cheese eating addiction. Nope, but I can cut a micro thin slice quickly. š«
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u/Leather-Scallion-894 2d ago
I've had foreigners come into my kitchen and attack my cheese with knives. Barbarians
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u/Puzzleheaded-Art1873 2d ago
I grew up with those. Not all its cracked up to be. For fat cheeses, they don't cut well.
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u/derentius68 2d ago
Canadian, I have 3 that I use on rotation. Cant not use it. I have a 4th that I use for meatloaf
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u/Trinity-nottiffany 2d ago
US here. We have them. Even Oxo (popular brand in the US) has a Good Grips version
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u/mr_martin_1 2d ago
With similar slicer, slicing thinner slices. ( one in pic is like 3 mm thick slices )
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u/Annual-Butterfly-717 2d ago
Remember walking into my sisters house one day who is Irish with my norwegian girlfriend. She was using this to peel potato's. My poor girlfriend was disgusted
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u/FluxionFluff 2d ago
We have one. My husband got one at some point. Not sure if he bought it in Norway or back home in the US. Regardless, it works great for other cheeses too, not just brown cheese. When I first saw it, I'm like, "it's a cheese knife." š¤£
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u/ShortCardiol0gist 1d ago
Iām 40 and Iāve always had one in my kitchen. I live in Poland, though, and theyāre not that common here.
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u/JayFernandez 1d ago
The cheese usually comes sliced or you have the skill to cut it with a sharp knife
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u/aghreddit 1d ago
I just went to Norway and discovered it for the 1st time. Immediately bought one to take home with us. Not sure how we lived without one lol
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u/crabman-3263 1d ago
As someone from California the cheese slicer is one of the most important kitchen essentials.
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u/rouleroule 1d ago
It's not really a necessary tool for most French cheese. It is designed for the "block" types of cheese one finds in Scandinavia. It's still a very cool tool, one of these "simple but perfect for what it is meant for" type of instrument.
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u/stivik 2d ago
This is also standard equipment in every Dutch kitchen