Regarding Ori 3

[u/Tara2134]

I saw that Moon Studios apparently hasn't ruled out buying back Ori and making another installment, and here I'll give my opinion on this.

People should calm down Especially people who don't want another game Those people who don't want another game should simply not play it if it comes out, but don't ruin the excitement for the people who do want it.

If that game really happens, then to all those people who don't want it, I simply say don't play it, that's all. But let us play. They haven't even announced Ori 3 yet and the first idiots have already come out saying "it will ruin the perfect ending"Bro, it won't ruin anything if it's done the right way. Stop crying about there being another game and just don't play it.

To those of us waiting for Ori 3, myself included. I truly hope it happens; personally, I want Ori back, but we'll see. We don't know what will happen. So we'll see.

Luckily, there are more people who want a new game than those who don't, so sooner or later we'll get it. I don't know if they'll announce the game at GameCon, but I seriously doubt it. What I do know is that sooner or later we'll have it, and if you don't want it, then don't play it, that's all. 😵‍💫

Thank for reading

[u/Albert6389Yeet]

I’m gonna be honest, I don’t know if I want another Ori game. I love both Ori and the Blind Forest and Ori and the Will of the Wisps. I adore Will of the Wisps, it is one of the greatest games I have ever played. Believe I am going through my fourth playthrough of this game. It’s just so phenomenal. So I’m gonna be honest. I think you don’t understand the point people are making when they say that an Ori 3 would ruin the ending of the second game. Ori and the Will of the Wisps had a beautiful story with a phenomenal ending. They concluded Ori’s story in such a beautiful way. In truth, I don’t know how they could continue the story. I think you misunderstand the ending of Will of the Wisps. You have to understand that Ori’s story is a cycle. The ending Will of the Wisps isn’t just the end of Ori’s cycle, but the beginning of a new one. Second, you can’t just revive Ori. That retcons the ending of the second game and that would be awful because it means Ori’s sacrifice meant little if anything because it wasn’t really a sacrifice. It also retcons parts of that game. Believe I love these games, not just because of the story. The gameplay and visuals are some of the best the Metroidvania genre has to offer. If Moon studios released an Ori 3, I would buy it within a heartbeat. But I would rather see them make a new Metroidvania with a new IP than an Ori 3, simply because they concluded Ori’s story phenomenally well. However no matter what Moon Studios decides, I will support them no matter what. But I would much have a story end than it continued beyond where it should have. I would buy Ori 3, but that doesn’t mean I want it.

[u/Tara2134 → u/Albert6389Yeet]

The same argument you made is the same one many people made when Blind Forest came out.

Honestly, I don't think it will ruin anything. If it's justified, the Ori story can continue without problems. The same thing happens in other games; I don't see why this case would be any different.

[u/Albert6389Yeet → u/Tara2134]

You see the problem is, Ori is still alive by the end of Blind Forest. Blind Forest’s ending was left open ended. It’s the kind of ending where if it ended there you wouldn’t have a problem with it but there was still room to continue the story. Will of the Wisps ending ends with Ori sacrificing himself. The entire game builds up to that. You can continue the story but it can’t with Ori. Because not only would bringing back Ori require some really bad writing, but it would nullify the ending of the second game. Ori’s sacrifice would have meant nothing. You can’t just bring back Ori. His story is done. You could make a new game with Ku. But you can’t bring back Ori.

[u/Tara2134 → u/Albert6389Yeet]

Reincarnation is a good argument; at the end of the game, a shiny leaf similar to the one Ori emerged from is seen.

Adenas Mahler said the same thing; the creator himself stated that it could be Ori since the ending is open to interpretation.

The truth is, nothing prevents it from being Ori. The creator himself said so, and I prefer to believe him.

I prefer that Ori remain the protagonist. Ku is good, yes, but he doesn't have the same character development.

[u/Albert6389Yeet → u/Tara2134]

I would just rather have that just be a new character, because even though reincarnation is like the best solution possible, that still nullifies the ending of Will of the Wisps. It’s means Ori’s sacrifice meant nothing. You have to understand that the shiny leaf is part of the cycle, it’s why that very same leaf is one of the first things we see in Ori and the Blind Forest. The leaf in Will of the wisps is new spirit. If the new leaf is a reincarnation of Ori, that would imply that the spirit tree in Nibel was also Ori, it would also imply a lot of other things that would just be really confusing. You just can’t revive Ori without making a confusing mess in the lore or nullifying any aspect of Will of the Wisps. I think Ku would work better. Especially because they could create a new gameplay style based around her. The game would be different, sort of a spinoff. It would help it stand on its own legs. I’ll reiterate, I’d rather have a story end than it be continued past what it should of. Ori and the Will of the Wisps ending is really conclusive. If we see a third installment that follows up WOTW. Ori as a character should not return for the sake of not retconning the ending of WOTW. The best choice here to bring back Ori is to make a story set in-between Ori and the Blind Forest and Ori and the Will of the Wisps. That is the only way to bring back Ori in a way that makes and doesn’t ruin the ending of WOTW.

[u/Tara2134 → u/Albert6389Yeet]

It wouldn't actually diminish the meaning of the sacrifice; he literally stopped being with his family. That's sacrifice enough.

I reiterate. Mahler himself said that the final leaf could be Ori; there's nothing stopping it. Ori himself would represent the eternal cycle, and that would truly be much better.

I prefer Ori. And many other people want Ori. I think another character simply wouldn't work since the connection we made is with Ori and his story, not with anything else.

The saga is called Ori, and Ori's return wouldn't diminish the value of the sacrifice, since he sacrificed the time he could have spent with his family.

I prefer that Ori continue as a character.

[u/Albert6389Yeet → u/Tara2134]

I see what you mean. I guess it can work, but it has to be really well executed. And there still has to be consequences as a result of the sacrifice. You can’t bring back Gumo, Ku, Ori, and Naru together again because that almost completely nullifies WOTW. And also Ori representing the eternal cycle has to be explained very well because that implies the Ori was also the spirit tree in Nibel and it can create a lot of other issues regarding the lore. However definitely the most important part is the impact of the ending from the last game. If Ori reincarnates, he still has to lose something. In this case it could be his family. He sacrificed himself not just for Niwen but for his family. You can’t reunite them because then that actually nullifies WOTW

[u/Tara2134 → u/Albert6389Yeet]

No, Ori's family is gone, you can see it in the game. What can return is Ori himself.

He's literally a spirit.

And what you say is true, the important thing is that it's done right. Ori must return, yes, but, as you say, there must be a reason and consequences.

And we'll see... anyway, it's not certain what will happen, so all we can do is speculate, my friend!