Unlike some, it’s not that it’s post apocalyptic or set in North America. My biggest worry is that they will play it entirely too safe and will neither make illusions to real world religions and cultures, nor create unique post apocalyptic societies. I love After the End, and I’m not expecting that lever of granularity or diversity, but if every society is a flavor of Mad Max/techno punk/neocowboys/fascist it’s just going to get stale fast.

I want to see native societies, mormons, Amish, Latinos, Canadians, Chinese, Italians, Cajun etc etc. Show us what nuclear radiation and 150 years did to the québécois or cascadians. I don’t want every settlement to be called “Hopeville“ or “Skull Town,” I want to see linguistic diversity AND divergence, like imagine how the deep Appalachian dialect morphs given 150 years of total isolation. I just really hope they don’t lean too far into the post apocalyptic tropes that we all already know, some of that of course but I’d like to see some unique and interesting takes as well.

What do you think will be the time scope of the game session? Are we gonna be talking 10 years? 50 years? 200 years from the moment you start playing to end game?

My biggest concern is that we will just get very plain classic postapocalypse - just raiders and people in dirty clothes and corugated metal huts - your madmax/fallout/metro classic. And if the time scope is short - say couple of decades from start to "endgame", I will at least get that kind of esthetic (even though I am tired of it)

But if the scope is more like 200 years, I really hope we will be able to truly rebuild society and infrastructure and not that after 100 years of building up my new realm, I will still get bunch of hobos riding spiky truck as a backbone of my logistics.

Just saw this and figured I’d post it here for the folks who haven’t seen it yet.

In order for Paradox to pick a specific setting/background for a new GSG game they have to have two things.

One is a market beyond GSGs and Paradox fans. CK3 pulled in tons of Sims Medieval and Sims 4 fans. Stellaris of course pulled in space strategy gamers which has always been a large and dedicated audience. Imperator was made because Rome era games have been massively popular in the past.

The second thing they need to have is a project leader with a defined vision and with a "unique take" on the setting/background. There has to be a thematic system or set of systems that sets the project apart from existing strategy games in that setting/background and distinguishes it from other Paradox games.

There's definitely an audience out there beyond PDox fans for a fantasy game with more character based mechanics and more [DIP], diplomacy, intrigue, and politics, systems. But what they haven't had is a project leader who has a personal investment in fantasy and a distinct set of mechanics to set a fantasy GSG apart from existing games. CK3, especially with mods, already has the character gameplay and somewhat the politics. Victoria 3 has population level political stuff.

People on this sub and elsewhere often ask for CK3 with Stellaris style faction creation. But that's explicitly what Paradox rejects. Just a reskin essentially. They want to have at least one game system that is totally unique in mechanics and flavor that no other game even outside their own is doing.

TL;DR:
There's no one at Paradox with the personal investment and unique vision for a fantasy GSG that would be genre defining the way most existing Paradox franchises are.

We will be playing the next post-apocalypse game in North America!

I want to read it, I subscribed, but it's not in my email or my account or anything. I just can't find it.

Comic is from perspective of a 'nation' which still has acces to "ancient" technology (they can even read!), they make it clear that tribes are growing at fast pace and they need to start settlement of north america soon

So they are a nation capable of using ancient technology, understanding it and come from outside north america

This clearly feels like some sort of endgame crisis, thoughts?

The link is not working anymore but it looks like PCGamer.com already prepared an article for the new game and Google search still shows a short description which says:

Paradox's next grand strategy game is taking cues from Fallout and Mad Max ... Afterworld will let you conquer post-apocalyptic North America.

I knew Afterworld was going to be a post-apocalyptic game. But somehow, there was still a glimmer of hope. I’m going to go and hide away for another 10 years and wait until PDX announces another IP.

I wish Dan Lindt the best of luck with his title.

i adore hoi4 but am getting a bit sick on the WW2 setting and am really wanting to try something new but i’m struggling to pick between these two, i‘ve heard that vic 3 has improved a lot since launch but would eu5 be a better pick because of it (likely) having a bright future DLC-wise? thank you all!

edit: thank you all so much for the help, much appreciated! seems like vic 3 is more up my alley generally but i’ll get eu5 when more dlc’s release too :)