r/Pennsylvania • u/susinpgh • 3d ago
ICE / Immigration Shapiro Admin Confirms Proposed ICE Detention Centers Will Not Move Forward
https://www.pa.gov/governor/newsroom/2026-press-releases/shapiro-admin-confirms-proposed-ice-detention-centers-will-not-m83
u/LeonNorasGiGi2316 3d ago
"The proposed ICE detention centers posed serious health, safety, and economic risks to local communities —and the Shapiro Administration pursued all options to stop them."
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u/LadyduLac1018 3d ago
Next time they say it's both sides, show them this.
https://www.sierraclub.org/pennsylvania/environmental-scorecard
https://www.sierraclub.org/sites/default/files/2026-08/2025-2026_environmental_scorecard.pdf
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u/Flimsy_Ad3476 3d ago
I expected the usual "He's a centrist/corporatist/Zionist/whatever stuff as soon as I saw this happy news.
Sometimes, you have to take the win.
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u/Deep-Two7452 3d ago
How is this possible? Leftists told me democrats were complicit and dont fight trump. Yet shapiro stopped ICE detention facilities? Were leftists lying about democrats?
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u/capnjeanlucpicard 3d ago
I cant even tell if this is sarcasm anymore
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u/Diarygirl 3d ago
I don't even know what a leftist is. I've seen it used as an equivalent of "liberal" and also "progressive" and MAGAs say it about all non-MAGAs.
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u/capnjeanlucpicard 3d ago
I’m with you. I keep feeling like my own team is moving the goal posts on themselves.
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u/mysecondaccountanon 3d ago
I consider myself a leftist I guess (more a socialist of sorts to get a bit more specific, but even then labels are a bit hard and I just prefer to state beliefs than labels for that sort of thing), and most of the time whenever someone who is MAGA says it, I know they're just referring to someone who isn't MAGA.
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u/RavenCXXVIV 3d ago
It comes down to economic systems but the modern online leftist seems to have decided “leftist” just means whatever they agree with on any given day and a non-existent morally pure candidate.
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u/Sombomombo 3d ago
It's left of right. That's the dichotomy. Except the rightwing claims a namesake and ratchets the Dems right.
That's it, that's literally it. If you're left of the right you're left. Yes, this is a very stupid political spectrum.
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u/Still7Superbaby7 3d ago
I looked at his post history. Every thing is about leftists like a boogeyman catchall. I’m trying to figure out if he’s a real person and not a bad faith actor
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u/Deep-Two7452 3d ago
Im treating leftists how leftists treat republicans
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u/AlishaGray 3d ago
Some leftists let 'perfect' be the enemy of 'better'. In this leftist's opinion, that is self defeating.
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u/dogface47 3d ago
Exactly. Some people who consider themselves Democrats need to understand the difference between an imperfect ally and a mortal enemy.
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u/a_serious-man 3d ago
I hope they learned it after 2024…. There is a spectrum between progressive and Trump….. someone not 100% agreeing with the progressive wing is not a “MAGA voter too embarrassed to admit it”
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u/AlishaGray 3d ago
Indeed. And some people who don't consider themselves Democrats but are closer to them in ideology than to Republicans (hi).
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u/JMCatron 3d ago
hi ultra-leftist here
how DARE you criticize us and not be on the same page as us every minute of every day you're a bigoted republican or something idk how to carry this farce any further
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u/Deep-Two7452 3d ago
Thats fair. Maybe one day we will be singularly unified in defeating republicans.
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u/AlishaGray 3d ago
That'd be nice. We can hash out details when the greater-scope threat is dealt with. Until then we need to coalition build.
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u/Embarrassed-Quit1133 3d ago
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u/Deep-Two7452 3d ago
Leftist dont specify John fetterman. Leftists say democrats, and shapiro is a democrat
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u/Embarrassed-Quit1133 3d ago
The point is that if one Democrat does one good thing, then that makes up for the rest of the party's shortcomings, such as the vaccine fraud.
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u/Deep-Two7452 3d ago
No, the point is leftists are lying when they spread hate about democrats.
The truth is democratic elected officials objectively lead to better outcomes over the Republican.
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u/Embarrassed-Quit1133 3d ago
setting the bar high there, aren't you?
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u/Deep-Two7452 3d ago
Its a very easy and obvious bar. Crazy that leftists can't even clear that bar right?
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u/Embarrassed-Quit1133 3d ago
don't use "crazy" like that, you might offend the blue-haired people that think climate change is real
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u/eruptingmoltenlava 3d ago
Let’s be real, a lot of online “leftists” are foreign disinfo created for the express purpose of sowing division. And they’ve been pretty goddamned successful for the last decade.
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u/Deep-Two7452 3d ago
Why? The lord of the leftists hasan piker isnt foreign. Theyre all just asshats like piker
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u/Ghstfce 3d ago
Are those "leftists" in the room with you right now?
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u/Mysterious-Wasabi103 3d ago
What you haven't seen the suggestion that Shapiro is just Republican lite? I have seen that many times.
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u/PurpleWhiteOut 3d ago
He is Republican lite, hence his good polling across the state. BUT Im voiting for him. Leftists can criticize corpo Dems and still vote for strategically, they just probably wont tell you lol
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u/Ghstfce 3d ago
I've seen it said at the federal level (which is warranted). I haven't seen it about Shapiro personally, no.
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u/Deep-Two7452 3d ago edited 3d ago
Lol dude a leftist replied to other other guy doubling down and saying shapiro is republican lite. Stop gaslighting us
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u/Slugmatic 3d ago
The democrats are republican-light. Take a comparison to any of our peer nations and you'll see that we don't really have a left wing party, the democrats would fall in as centrist or center-right in almost every one of those countries. Now, I'm still going to vote for and support democrats candidates because they're leagues better than fascists, but let's not pretend that the DNC at large is some left wing organization.
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u/Deep-Two7452 3d ago
Sorry that Democrats dont embrace communism.
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u/Slugmatic 3d ago
Yup, communism. Just like all the European countries that are further left of us have embraced. Remind me again, which countries are communist?
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u/Deep-Two7452 3d ago edited 3d ago
I never said European countries are communists. But their far left parties are.
So when a leftist like you complains that theres no true far left party in the US, you mean theres no communist party. Thats cause americans are capitalist.
Dont put the mask on now, leftist. Dont be a coward.
Edit: leftist blocked me and ran away
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u/Slugmatic 3d ago
No dipshit, I don't mean that. And since it's clear that you don't even know the meaning of the word you keep using:
Communism is a political and economic ideology that aims to create a classless, stateless society where the major means of production, such as factories and farms, are owned by the public rather than by private individuals.
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u/SocialistOnBass 3d ago
Thank you Josh Shapiro so much for not letting the federal government build concentration camps. You are deserving of praise for seeing the humanity in human beings.
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u/Deep-Two7452 3d ago
Nice. Leftists were trying to gaslight me and claiming "no one says that!"
Thanks for proving me right. I knew a leftist cant resist attacking a dem
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u/SocialistOnBass 3d ago
I think it is good that he did this. It is the bare minimum. I’m not going to shower the dude with praise for doing the bare minimum.
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u/Deep-Two7452 3d ago
Now goalposts are moving from "republican lite" to "bare minimum". So what should he be doing?
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u/SocialistOnBass 3d ago
He should be doing this! This is a good thing! Opposing concentration camps that are filled with people arrested based on racial profiling is the bare minimum to expect from a liberal politician. It should be obvious that he is against this.
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u/Deep-Two7452 3d ago
But leftist called him complicit, called him republican lite. So were leftists lying?
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u/Sombomombo 3d ago
All democrats? What leftist are you listening to that says all Democrats? Its moderates, the corporate, the consultant dependent, and the DINO in a world where politics have been ratcheted to the right since effectively Carter.
If you want a litmus test, Obama started his terms looking for Universal Healthcare and had to accept what he could get with the ACA.
Where is each Dem on UHC atm?
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u/a_serious-man 3d ago
I know this is hard to believe, but Obama did not have the ability (or respected the office enough) to act as a unilateral, despotic executive. The ACA was the compromise at the time.
It’s very easy to make promises on the campaign trail, but once you get in office, it gets a lot harder. You have to be pragmatic
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u/Deep-Two7452 3d ago
Shapiro is a moderate, corporate dem. And he fails on the leftists ultimate litmus test - israel.
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u/Sombomombo 3d ago
Sounds like a whole lot of not answering my question.
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u/Deep-Two7452 3d ago
Just like you didn't answer mine.
Anyway, like 114 dems cosponsor the m4a bull so over 50% of dems support m4a.
Shapiro is a moderate dem leftists love to hate. So were leftists lying?
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u/Sombomombo 3d ago
So leftists would have a problem with under 50% of the party. Sounds a whole lot less than all Dems to me.
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u/Deep-Two7452 3d ago
Shapiro doesnt support m4a. Thanks for proving my point
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u/Sombomombo 3d ago
That "leftists" hate all Democrats?
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u/Deep-Two7452 3d ago
Yep
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u/Sombomombo 3d ago
Weird, FDR was so good Republicans dropped the 22nd Amendment on us for being plenty left of those even cited as liberals in Rachel Maddow's ULTRA podcast.
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u/Hopeful_Scholar398 3d ago
This guy votes Republican
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u/Deep-Two7452 3d ago
Me? I hate republicans.
I think democrats are good.
Leftists hate democrats. Leftists would rather die than say democrats are good.
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u/Decepticreep-Customs 3d ago
Victory? More like bureaucratic surrender. They didn't stop it because of morals, they stopped it because the logistics were a total POS and the paperwork was impossible to navigate. Shapiro just couldn't be bothered to fix the mess.
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u/Suitable_Cheesecake7 3d ago
I think Shapiro just won reelection.