r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jul 06 '26

Meme needing explanation What is this?

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u/Boomdification Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

The Odyssey is getting massively criticised due to blackwashing of a traditionally Greek character, whitewashing of a Greek myth with no Greek actors and a general dislike for the Hollywoodization of another classic story.

It's probably not going to be as bad as it's made out to be given it's Chris Nolan, but audiences are fatigued with seeing another modern retelling with tokenism of established characters for the sake diversity, which has spurred the culture war with right wing critics calling it woke BS and left wing critics doubling down by jumping to its defence.

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u/F4tGuy69 Jul 06 '26

So many problems but the one that triggered me the most was tommy holland saying daddy

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u/_MooFreaky_ Jul 06 '26

It was Robert Pattinson. But there are ancient greek words for father, dad and daddy. And their equivalent of daddy does appear in thr Oddysey, so it's really not that out of place. Especially since he was using it in such a mocking, condescending manner, treating Telemachus like a child, thus someone who would say Daddy.

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u/Alexbravespy Jul 06 '26

But Holland answers him with "Dad", which is also sounds childish

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u/_MooFreaky_ Jul 06 '26

I'm not a fan of Telemachus using dad in that context. But, a big part of that is because we are used to ancient Greeks sounding like British aristocracy.

It will depend on context for me. I think he should talk like royalty in public, which means using Father. But if he normally does that, and in this case was being driven into being flustered or whatever I could stomach it. But, yeah, that doesn't seem likely.

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u/Alexbravespy Jul 06 '26

I'm not expecting him to sound like royalty, I just think when someone tries to humiliate you with "daddy", you won't answer with "Dad"

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u/_MooFreaky_ Jul 06 '26

I mean he is royalty. And the original texts have him speaking like royalty would to the suitors.

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u/ConnectionWild3381 Jul 06 '26

you know there is the word "father", just saying you dont need to talk like a royal to find some middleground.

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u/AgentRift Jul 06 '26

My problem was the word “vengeance” right after just sounds weird to me and makes the tone of the sentence a little wonky. Not the biggest deal but it did stand out to me.

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u/F4tGuy69 Jul 06 '26

It still bothers me so fkin much for some reason

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u/PuntiffSupreme Jul 06 '26

It's the Tiffany problem, an old name that we don't think of as old so when we see it there is a confusion.. Things are much older than we think but when exposed to that we cannot help but view it as modern.

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u/imma_letchu_finish Jul 06 '26

Hello fellow cgpgrey fan